International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Deorum]

I wouldn’t be. Most likely the Israeli strikes in Iran were a lot more effective than social media has lead people to believe. On the flip side I’d be willing to bet that while Iran landed some good shots, they weren’t as effective as social media has made out.

Israel has been operating with an enormous advantage and landing far more significant strikes from the start. Mossad has outdone itself yet again, and it's still deeply embedded within Iran pulling off insane Hollywood movie shit. The slant came from the fact that it's just sort of unprecedented to see Tel Aviv and Haifa on fire like that with Fattah-1 missiles ripping through the sky so fast people thought they were AI. It was a big level-up from the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah.

 

[Siver!]

Pakistan got attacked significantly I forgot which base but that last attack caused them to want a ceasefire badly. They reached out to India but in the PR world they're using the US as the intermediary as a way to avoid shame and save face.

That's the truth. Trump had nothing to do with it except taking credit lol.

The Pakistan recommending Trump for Nobel peace prize is purely Pakistan playing the game of sweet talking Trump for a sweet trade deal, not to mention they didn't want to rock the boat especially for their extra 1 billion loan bailout from the imf.

It's always politics with these sort of things

There's probably truth here.

I think with India basically angry with Trump, hes offered something unnecessarily lenient to Pakistan.

There must be a reason India feels jilted, and specifically with the US - which means he's probably denied India something they wanted out of the process.

 

[MrShady]

Oh India is the most honest party on that subject? Or the most useful?
But what does Canada say about it?


Common knowledge?

You're acting like Trump hasn't been involved in politics for a decade by now, and the same old tired gameplan by the media is consistently on Repeat -

*Constant 'Orange Man Bad' coverage.
*Give him no credit for the positive results, only point out the negatives or hypothetically negative results.
*Control the coverage related to Trump by controlling what they hear, what to think about what they hear, and (most important) what they don't hear.

This is why it's not worth wasting my time on you.

You move goalposts to invent some argument in your head. I'm talking specifically about India pakistan ceasefire. It's common knowledge at this point that Trump did nothing in that incident.

You can google it yourself. Trump even admitted it actually. Please. Go Google it.

And you won't even have to come back and admit it. I'll let you think you're still right and I'm wrong.

But for your own mental health, Google it. "Trump india pakistan ceasefire". Trump admitted himself he didn't actually have a role in the ceasefire.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Israel has been operating with an enormous advantage and landing far more significant strikes from the start. Mossad has outdone itself yet again, and it's still deeply embedded within Iran pulling off insane Hollywood movie shit. The slant came from the fact that it's just sort of unprecedented to see Tel Aviv and Haifa on fire like that with Fattah-1 missiles ripping through the sky so fast people thought they were AI. It was a big level-up from the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah.

No doubt but social media has certainly colored it as if Iran was winning these exchanges. Having followed this thread all week I see a lot of posters sharing videos from SM seeming to illustrate the opposite of what the real results have been. I’ve been highly suspicious of that this whole time. You can’t really deny that there’s some posters in here that have been making it look like Israel was burning while Iran took minimal damage

 

[Siver!]

Oh India is the most honest party on that subject? Or the most useful?
But what does Canada say about it?

India are generally more reliable and honest than Pakistan, yes. I can't imagine there is much sentiment elsewhere to suggest otherwise?

Pakistan would not make for a sensible partner for Trump imo, or his supporters, though I'd like to see relations improving and the general stigma diminish. This will take time.

 

[ShadowRun]

How reliable are these posts?

They’re not , that didn’t happen

But all the bases in regions have sirens and emergency warning every time Iran fires a missiles, then they do full personal accountability .

Edit they post things like this , they just post a lot and some are right but mostly wrong .

 

[MrShady]

They’re not , that didn’t happen

But all the bases in regions have sirens and emergency warning every time Iran fires a missiles, then they do full personal accountability .

Which of my posts did not happen? Stop lying.

Did we get official confirmation of ceasefire yet since the DJT tweet?

 

[BoomStronk]

No doubt but social media has certainly colored it as if Iran was winning these exchanges. Having followed this thread all week I see a lot of posters sharing videos from SM seeming to illustrate the opposite of what the real results have been. I’ve been highly suspicious of that this whole time.

Where have you seen this?

Strange. I haven't seen anything that even suggests this. The only things I've seen are reports that a few rockets have gotten through, which was unexpected, and discussion about how the Iranian rockets are far harder to deal with than those Hamas has fired. Also, discussion about the cost asymmetry between Israel's limited and expensive interceptors vs Iran's extensive, comparatively cheap rocket arsenal.

Maybe your algorithm is entirely different, but I'm not seeing even a tiny sliver of this kind of bias.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Where have you seen this?

Strange. I haven't seen anything that even suggests this. The only things I've seen are reports that a few rockets have gotten through, which was unexpected, and discussion about how the Iranian rockets are far harder to deal with than those Hamas has fired. Also, discussion about the cost asymmetry between Israel's limited and expensive interceptors vs Iran's extensive, comparatively cheap rocket arsenal.

Maybe your algorithm is entirely different, but I'm not seeing even a tiny sliver of this kind of bias.

It’s not my algorithm. I’m taking about this thread over the last week

 

[ShadowRun]

Which of my posts did not happen? Stop lying.

Did we get official confirmation of ceasefire yet since the DJT tweet?

 

[MrShady]

Where have you seen this?

Strange. I haven't seen anything that even suggests this. The only things I've seen are reports that a few rockets have gotten through, which was unexpected, and discussion about how the Iranian rockets are far harder to deal with than those Hamas has fired. Also, discussion about the cost asymmetry between Israel's limited and expensive interceptors vs Iran's extensive, comparatively cheap rocket arsenal.

Maybe your algorithm is entirely different, but I'm not seeing even a tiny sliver of this kind of bias.

I've been as neutral as you can get when it comes to the algorithms and honestly the footage I've seen shows Israel and Iran both getting devastated. No one is winning over the other when it's coming to attacks or defenses. More civilian casualties on the Iran side but israels civilian shock is bigger because they had a stronger belief that their defense would hold up better prior to the attacks. Thus they're more "shook" but only in regards to that.

Overall, like I said, both sides are getting fucked up and would appreciate a ceasefire if not for Netanyahus thirst for escalation.

 

[MrShady]

Quote one of my posts directly with a report that came out to be false and I will concede to that point.

Thanks.

 

[BoomStronk]

It’s not my algorithm. I’m taking about this thread over the last week

"social media has certainly colored it as if Iran was winning these exchanges."

....hmmmm.

So, you did specifically talk about social media, generally. Your next sentence is about sherdog, but it doesn't delete the first, more general one where you claim this as a certainty.

And I've been following this thread for weeks myself. I definitely haven't seen any kind of conspiracy to present the case that Iran is somehow winning against Israel, or even getting the better of the exchanges. Who said that? I've seen videos of mostly-intercepted rockets in israel, I've seen posts outlining hundreds of dead Iranians. I haven't seen any post that indicates Iran is getting the better of the exchanges. What a bizarre claim.

There have been posts about the impossibilty of Israel attempting a ground invasion, and comparisons of Iran's greater firepower compared to Hamas. There have been posts about Israelis needing to take shelter and not being used to being the nail instead of the hammer - but none of this implies Iran is getting the better of exchanges.

 

[ShadowRun]

Quote one of my posts directly with a report that came out to be false and I will concede to that point.

Thanks.

This is literally about that post, you that dense?

this is wrong information

 

[MrShady]

It’s actually the other way around. You’re not letting go. You said it yourself earlier this ‘ ‘agreement felt sketchy’. Or something to that effect. Now you need full confirmation.

You’re one of those who can’t handle what might be happening here

Trump did exactly what he set out to do

Peace through Force.

You’re just going to have to see it to believe it but then what lol. Anyway

Lmao

 

[Blayt7hh]

"social media has certainly colored it as if Iran was winning these exchanges."

....hmmmm.

So, you did specifically talk about social media, generally. Your next sentence is about sherdog, but it doesn't delete the first, more general one where you claim this as a certainty.

And I've been following this thread for weeks myself. I definitely haven't seen any kind of conspiracy to present the case that Iran is somehow winning against Israel, or even getting the better of the exchanges. Who said that? I've seen videos of mostly-intercepted rockets in israel, I've seen posts outlining hundreds of dead Iranians. I haven't seen any post that indicates Iran is getting the better of the exchanges. What a bizarre claim.

There have been posts about the impossibilty of Israel attempting a ground invasion, and comparisons of Iran's greater firepower compared to Hamas. There have been posts about Israelis needing to take shelter and not being used to being the nail instead of the hammer.

Doesn’t delete the first sentence? No, isolating sentences from a paragraph is how you remove context from my comment, a favorite trick of social media. I feel like it’s clear I’m talking about the use of social media itt.

I do have a few posters quite specifically in mind when I was writing this. I’m not really looking to call anyone out at this time. I’m sure people that have been following this thread have an idea. Some of these posters I happen to like. This is me pointing out to why social media is a bad place to get your information. You kind of pointed it out yourself when you suggested it was my algorithm that led me to think this.

 

[Fanu]

*Constant 'Orange Man Bad' coverage.

And why do you think that is? Could it be that Orange Man indeed is bad?

Think about it - you're shilling for a billionaire, born in wealth, thats been caught lying thru his teeth numerous times already. Also he was publicly called out for being a ped0 by his business partner.

*Give him no credit for the positive results, only point out the negatives or hypothetically negative results.

You haven't posted a single positive result Trump did.
Unless you count Israel and Pakistan (you know, the country that harbored Osama fucking bin Laden) praising Trump.

*Control the coverage related to Trump by controlling what they hear, what to think about what they hear, and (most important) what they don't hear.

I am only interested in results (I don't read/watch the news, I don't watch politicians press conferences) - and so far Trump admin has only delivered on kicking out all the immigrants out of US while flip flopping on every other issue in front of them.

So tell us, why do you support Israel in this war? What does US gain by supporting Israel?

 

[MrShady]

This is literally about that post, you that dense?

this is wrong information

Thanks. I concede.

I posted a lot of incoming reports, not all accurate as you pointed out.

What is accurate is at no point did I announce we got confirmation of a ceasefire, because we did not.

Instead, we got more escalation and strikes. Which happened.


Appreciate the followup.

 

[BoomStronk]

Doesn’t delete the first sentence? No, isolating sentences from a paragraph is how you remove context from my comment, a favorite trick of social media. I feel like it’s clear I’m talking about the use of social media itt.

That's not how I read it. Sherdog is not social media.

I do have a few posters quite specifically in mind when I was writing this. I’m not really looking to call anyone out at this time. I’m sure people that have been following this thread have an idea. Some of these posters I happen to like. This is me pointing out to why social media is a bad place to get your information. You kind of pointed it out yourself when you suggested it was my algorithm that led me to think this.

Yes, you'll get no disagreement from me that social media (read: not just sherdog, but social meadia) is a bad place for solid news - it can be a great source of early breaking news but moreso it can be a great source of false-starts, fake news and misinformation.

At any rate, it seems like you're unconcerned with fleshing your argument out. I remain unconvinced that any significant attempts have been made by posters in this thread to claim that Iran is getting the better of the exchanges with Israel, but it doesn't seem like this concerns you enough to get into it, which is just fine. As you were.

 

[MrShady]

This is literally about that post, you that dense?

this is wrong information

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