International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Jacket time]

The July 1st spike is baked-in and happens every year to us as a side effect of the cap and trade system unfortunately. California leadership claims current high prices are "because we have to refine the cleanest fuel in the country" which is BS because Arizona and Nevada also are held to the same standard, but have far lower prices concurrently.

But aside from that, yes, it would suck even harder if a worldwide Iranian shortage of supply even further increased our prices.

I feel for you guys

 

[Jacket time]

 

[Thrawn33]

That's not a bad idea...

 

[High Test With da Best]

I don't remember any laser defense system.

Hmm, there were videos posted in the Oct. 7th attacks thread here that showed it in action, I'll look into it and get back to ya

So far according go IAEA radiation levels even in the bombed Natanz have remained unchanged above ground level. Mainly because Israeli jets have only targeted power stations which supplied electricity to the underground facility. According to Grossi the biggest risks so far are chemical for eventual workers going inside Natanz and they must not inhale uranium compounds and should use respiratory protection. So far strikes have been away from the places where fission is done. Only insane people would hit fission sites as they are very dangerous and pose direct crimes against humanity.

Good.
[insert grumpy cat pic]

 

[Sinister]

Netanyahu would rather drop the bombs directly on Israel itself than surrender them.

 

[High Test With da Best]

Hmm, there were videos posted in the Oct. 7th attacks thread here that showed it in action, I'll look into it and get back to ya

Good.
[insert grumpy cat pic]

@Madmick

Iron Beam - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Looks like it's just for short-range stuff and UAV's and supposedly the official deployment isn't until October of this year.

From Wiki:

The system is designed to destroy short-range rockets, artillery, and mortar bombs, and is expected to be deployed in October 2025. It has a range of up to 10 km (6.2 mi), complementing the Iron Dome system which was designed to intercept missiles launched from a greater distance. In addition, the system could also intercept unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs; drones) at a cost of US$3 per interception. Iron Beam will constitute the fifth element of Israel's integrated missile defense system, in addition to Arrow 2, Arrow 3, David's Sling and Iron Dome.

 

[Jacket time]

That's not a bad idea...

How does Israel bitch about Iran for 30 yrs, when they hide a bomb
no-one says shit

 

[Hog-train]

Really?

You cant see the parrarells in the rhetoric? Because i disagree..


'Axis of Evil' ::: Jan. 29, 2002
President Bush accuses Iraq of being part of an international "axis if evil" during his State of the Union address. Bush tells Congress:
"Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax and nerve gas and nuclear weapons for over a decade … This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world."
Material Breach' ::: Nov. 8, 2002
U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441 says Iraq "remains in material breach of its obligations" under various U.N. resolutions and gives the country "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament" commitments.



The U.N. Moves Back In ::: Nov. 27, 2002
UNMOVIC and IAEA inspections begin again in Iraq, almost four years after the departure of inspectors prior to Operation Desert Fox.

No 'Smoking Guns' ::: Jan. 9, 2003
UNMOVIC's Hans Blix and the IAEA's Director General Mohamed ElBaradei report their findings to the U.N. Security Council. Blix says inspectors have not found any "smoking guns" in Iraq. ElBaradei reports that aluminum tubes suspected by the U.S. to be components for uranium enrichment are more likely to be parts for rockets, as the Iraqis claim. John Negroponte, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., says:
"There is still no evidence that Iraq has fundamentally changed its approach from one of deceit to a genuine attempt to be forthcoming in meeting the council's demand that it disarm."
Sixteen Words ::: Jan. 28, 2003
In his State of the Union address, President Bush continues to view Iraq is a WMD threat. He makes a statement that implies Iraq is trying to develop nuclear weapons. Bush says:
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
It comes to light later that the president based his statement on discredited intelligence.
Powell's U.N. Appearance ::: Feb. 5, 2003
U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell goes in person to the U.N. to make the case against Iraq. Citing evidence obtained by American intelligence, he tells the U.N. that Iraq has failed "to come clean and disarm." Powell adds:
"My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence."
Another disproven " fact "



The Burden is on Iraq ::: Feb. 14, 2003
The IAEA's ElBaradei and chief weapons inspector Blix report to the U.N. Security Council on Iraqi cooperation in the search for WMD. They say they have not discovered any biological, chemical or nuclear weapons activities. Proscribed missile programs are discovered and disabled. Blix does express frustration with Iraq's failure to account for its vast stores of chemical and biological agents it was known to have at one point. Blix says:
"This is perhaps the most important problem we are facing. Although I can understand that it may not be easy for Iraq in all cases to provide the evidence needed, it is not the task of the inspectors to find it."
U.S. vs. U.N. ::: March 6-7, 2003
The night before Blix and ElBaradei are to report on inspection efforts in Iraq, President Bush gives a news conference in which he again says Iraq is hiding something. Bush says:
"These are not the actions of a regime that is disarming. These are the actions of a regime engaged in a willful charade. These are the actions of a regime that systematically and deliberately is defying the world."

Blix tells the U.N. the next day:
"Intelligence authorities have claimed that weapons of mass destruction are moved around Iraq by trucks, in particular that there are mobile production units for biological weapons … [But] no evidence of proscribed activities have so far been found."
Appearing with Blix, ElBaradei tells the U.N. that the IAEA has concluded that documents appearing to show Iraq shopping for uranium in Niger are, in fact, forgeries.

Invading Iraq ::: March 20, 2003
The U.S. military and other members of an American-led coalition invade Iraq. Baghdad falls on April 9. President Bush declares an end to major combat operations on May 1. Shortly afterward, the Pentagon announces formation of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) to search for WMD.

No Weapons Found ::: Oct. 2, 2003
After three months of looking, Iraq Survey Group (ISG) inspector David Kay tells Congress in an interim report that his American team of weapons inspectors has yet to find any evidence of WMD. Kay says:
"We have not yet found stocks of weapons, but we are not yet at the point where we can say definitively either that such weapon stocks do not exist, or that they existed before the war."

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

If Trump made that happen I'd be first to nominate.

 

[Siver!]

Hopefully this is the positive outcome here.

A regime like Israel's has no business possessing nuclear weaponry.

It should open it's doors to the inspectors and sign non-proliferation terms.

The entire Middle East would benefit from everybody signing the same terms.

No nuclear weapons in the Middle East, PERIOD.

Pressure must be mounted on Israel.

 

[Sinister]

If Trump made that happen I'd be first to nominate.

Nominate what?

 

[BluntForceTrama]

The right move is to say "we'll help negotiate a cease fire but we aren't sending any of our personnel or assets directly to Iran".

Of course I think its BS to for the US to provide material support. But I would fully expect that either way.

The Iranians have been stalling and bullshitting to keep the program moving along

There is no negotiation. You either cease and destroy all endeavors in that direction or you don’t. They’re lucky he’s being nice and this just demonstrates Trumps desire towards non military options. Peace through force.

 

[aerius]

Turns out Iran running out of missiles is about as likely as Russia running out of artillery shells.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

I find Sherdog is a better barometer on reality than any polling institution. I’m being 100% serious.

I agree, mostly because this community is from all over the world and from every walk of life.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Turns out Iran running out of missiles is about as likely as Russia running out of artillery shells.

i'm guessing Iran allowed for the war to be longer then a couple weeks. They likely have been stock piling for decades....it's the missile launchers that might be their problem.

 

[Siver!]

The Iranians have been stalling and bullshitting to keep the program moving along

There is no negotiation. You either cease and destroy all endeavors in that direction or you don’t. They’re lucky he’s being nice and this just demonstrates Trumps desire towards non military options. Peace through force.

America exited the Iran nuclear agreement, not Iran.

You can't whinge that you lost oversight, that was the path Trump purposefully chose. It has become a foreign policy disaster, like almost all of Trump's high profile moves: a total failure.

The man is a flop, if killing Iranians makes you feel better about him, you should really reconsider your stance on everything.

 

[Quadtavius Tuck]

I'm for America intervening on the side of Iran and goes full Truman on Jerusalem

Alhamdullilah

 

[HereticBD]

I mean, it's certainly a message, but hard to take seriously coming from an American. Just be honest:

"Only us and our allies get to have them, and we're not even sure our allies should have them."

This kumbaya shit is fantastical nonsense. May as well say Israel and Iran should hug it out.

 

[SuperLuigi]

 

[aerius]

i'm guessing Iran allowed for the war to be longer then a couple weeks. They likely have been stock piling for decades....it's the missile launchers that might be their problem.

Iran's missile launchers are basically dump trucks with a different bed for holding the missiles, they're not hard to make in huge numbers.