International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Strychnine]

"Bbbuuut Obama sent pallets full of cash!!!!!"

 

[Sweater of AV]

So wait six weeks and bomb the shit out of Iran again. USAF gets live target practice, Military-Industrial Complex makes bank off building and supplying the necessary ammo etc, and Republicans get Freedom Boners.

Honestly, I'm not seeing the downside here.

That's not really how it works, because it's not a video game.

To be fair though, you're an overweight can living in a craphole country commenting on things you know nothing about, so I'm not particularly surprised.

 

[Siver!]

Probably. But they'll get demolished again as soon as it looks likely but probably much harder this time and more prolonged.

Seems unlikely.

If Israel had lost track to the point Iran were just days or weeks away from a bomb, it's unlikely an even more secretive Iran would be rustled in time.

So either a very serious security threat was only just scuppered in time, which is immensely worrying, or Israel overplayed and exaggerated their hand and had no actual justification for attack, which is immensely worrying.

It cannot be both.

 

[oldshadow]

DEI

 

[San Marino]

So indeed it pushed Iran to accelerate their nuclear weapon ambitions

Yes.
The Iranian people are now galvanized with the government. So much for regime change. It would have been the only thing to really stop Iran's nuclear program. Being humiliated and hate are strong emotions to force some sort of payback against Israel and the US. In my opinion, the Israelis helped derail negotiations between the US and Iran to force a US strike. Do the Israelis really think Iran would drop a nuke in Tel Aviv knowing full well their country would turn to glass by Israel and the US? The Israelis are full of shit! Have been for a long time. They have an agenda to pursue and drew the US into this war. Both sides taking a break (Israel/Iran) but will surely go back to fighting eventually. The IAEA is now out of Iran and won't be coming back. We now have no idead what the Iranians are doing.

How Biden Is to Blame for Israel and the U.S.’s 12-Day War Against Iran

Biden’s failure to reenter Obama’s nuclear deal helped create the risk for a potentially catastrophic U.S. war against Iran.

theintercept.com

U.N. nuclear watchdog says Iran could enrich uranium again in 'a matter of months'​

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/29/nx-s1-5450282/u-n-nuclear-watchdog-says-iran-could-enrich-uranium-again-in-a-matter-of-months

 

[KnightTemplar]

That's not really how it works, because it's not a video game.

To be fair though, you're an overweight can living in a craphole country commenting on things you know nothing about, so I'm not particularly surprised.

Hey - I am NOT overweight!

 

[ShadowRun]

Yes.
The Iranian people are now galvanized with the government. So much for regime change. It would have been the only thing to really stop Iran's nuclear program. Being humiliated and hate are strong emotions to force some sort of payback against Israel and the US. In my opinion, the Israelis helped derail negotiations between the US and Iran to force a US strike. Do the Israelis really think Iran would drop a nuke in Tel Aviv knowing full well their country would turn to glass by Israel and the US? The Israelis are full of shit! Have been for a long time. They have an agenda to pursue and drew the US into this war. Both sides taking a break (Israel/Iran) but will surely go back to fighting eventually. The IAEA is now out of Iran and won't be coming back. We now have no idead what the Iranians are doing.

How Biden Is to Blame for Israel and the U.S.’s 12-Day War Against Iran

Biden’s failure to reenter Obama’s nuclear deal helped create the risk for a potentially catastrophic U.S. war against Iran.

theintercept.com

U.N. nuclear watchdog says Iran could enrich uranium again in 'a matter of months'​

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/29/nx-s1-5450282/u-n-nuclear-watchdog-says-iran-could-enrich-uranium-again-in-a-matter-of-months

Well Israel better declare a full blown war then

 

[N13]

That's some BS. The available tech allows to go a few meters deep. The published article claims to have used this tech in a new way, capturing the "vibrations" of the ground and applying an AI to translate the results visually. The problem is that this "new way of applying the tech" has never been used before and they didnt use it in known sites so the tech could be verified. On top of that the show "km deep structures" doesnt show the giza plateau's water table what really takes away from the resul being credible.
If the guys actually had this new amazing tech they should be selling it for governments for billions so they could fund any research they want. Instead they published it on an Italian alien conference (yes, the conference was about aliens).

 

[San Marino]

Well Israel better declare a full blown war then.

They don't have to. I would say that the minute the first Israeli bomb hit Iran, they were at war with Iran. The minute the first US bomb hit Iran, it was at war with Iran. Let us see how long this cease fire will hold and what Iran is working on. Russia told Iran to hold back on hitting Israel and the US hard. US sites hit by Iran were told beforehand the missiles were coming. North Korea and Iran together have now made things worse. A horrible coalition. Unfortunately, something very bad is about to happen in the near future. A 9/11 type of reprisal. We can thank Biden, Trump, and Netanyahu for it.

 

[N13]

@TheMoa

You have me wondering what is going on here. I use this Microsoft AI thing called co-pilot to find horror movies I haven't seen yet, so I decided to ask it about this predicament. Here's the result:

ME: I was wondering about this alleged discovery concerning what is below the pyramids of Giza using some sort of technology that allows the scientists see far below the ground. Is this true?

CO-Pilot:
It’s a fascinating story and one that’s stirring up quite a bit of debate.

A team of Italian and Scottish researchers recently claimed to have used Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR)—a satellite-based imaging technology—to peer beneath the Pyramids of Giza. Their findings suggest the existence of a vast underground network, including chambers, shafts, and spiral pathways that may stretch over two kilometers wide and nearly a kilometer deep2.

Some of these structures appear to be beneath each of the three main pyramids and are speculated to connect to what ancient legends call the Halls of Amenti—a mythical subterranean city. The researchers even created 3D models based on radar data, revealing what they describe as multi-level complexes and massive cube-shaped formations.

However, the claims are highly controversial. Prominent Egyptologists, including Dr. Zahi Hawass, have dismissed the findings as “completely false” and lacking peer-reviewed validation2. Critics argue that while SAR is a powerful tool, interpreting its data—especially at such depths—is fraught with uncertainty.

So, in short: yes, the technology exists and was used to make some bold claims, but whether those claims hold up to scientific scrutiny is still very much up in the air.

ME: How does SAR technology work?

CO-Pilot:
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) is like giving satellites X-ray vision—except instead of light, it uses radio waves to “see” through clouds, darkness, and even some surfaces of the Earth.

Here’s how it works in a nutshell:

1. Active Sensing: Unlike regular cameras that rely on sunlight, SAR systems emit their own microwave pulses toward the ground.
2. Echo Collection: These pulses bounce off the Earth’s surface and return to the satellite or aircraft, carrying information about the terrain they hit.
3. Synthetic Aperture: As the radar platform moves (say, a satellite orbiting Earth), it collects data from multiple positions. These are stitched together using clever signal processing to simulate a much larger antenna—hence the term “synthetic aperture.”
4. High-Resolution Imaging: This technique allows SAR to produce incredibly detailed images, even with a relatively small physical antenna.

Me: What is below the Pyramids of Giza?

CO-Pilot:
That question has taken a wild turn recently, Richard.

A team of Italian and Scottish researchers claims to have discovered massive underground structures beneath the Pyramids of Giza using advanced radar imaging. According to their findings, there may be spiral-shaped cylindrical voids, pillar-like formations, and even signs of a vast subterranean complex stretching thousands of feet below the desert surface. Some of these features appear to mirror each other beneath different pyramids, suggesting a unified underground network.

They’ve proposed that this could be the remnants of an ancient city—possibly predating the pyramids themselves. One researcher even linked the findings to ancient flood myths and the idea of a lost civilization wiped out around 12,800 BCE.

But—and it’s a big but—mainstream Egyptologists are not convinced. Dr. Zahi Hawass, Egypt’s former antiquities minister, has outright dismissed the claims as “impossible,” arguing that radar can’t reliably image that deep and that no peer-reviewed data has been released.

So, what’s beneath the pyramids? Officially: a few known chambers, shafts, and subterranean features like the unfinished “Subterranean Chamber” beneath the Great Pyramid. Unofficially: a whole lot of mystery, speculation, and a growing pile of radar scans waiting for validation.

 

[HereticBD]

Take the Pyramid talk to the lounge.

 

[N13]

Take the Pyramid talk to the lounge.

Better if it just stops. Nothing to see here.

It's been a way of passing time while nothing significant happens with the Israel/Iran/US struggle.

 

[San Marino]

It's been a way of passing time while nothing significant happens with the Israel/Iran/US struggle.

Oh, there is plenty going on with Iran!
We are just not hearing about it. At least not yet.
"Rainbows and Unicorns" for the Israelis and Americans.

So, here is a hypothetical scenario:
Iran gets a bomb in about a year or less. They are more likely to get 3 to 5. One will be used for an atmospheric or underground test. They need to let the world know they have one. North Korea working with Iran will speed everything up. North Korea could even give Iran a bomb. Iran only needs the bomb grade U-235. They may already have it. Who knows? They know how to put an atomic bomb together (better physicists than Pakistan or North Korea - and not all were killed) and already have a missile to be used for delivery. A small warhead, in the kiloton range.

Let us suppose they (Iran) do not use their bomb but kill Americans stateside and Jews in Israel. What would the US do? How would it retaliate? Would Americans go after innocent civilian targets like Israel, or would they only kill Iranian military personnel? I already know the Israelis would kill civilian targets - just look at Gaza. What if key Iranian personnel are hiding within the population? Do we as Americans kill those innocent civilians to get to the target or wait for a different opportunity? The blueprint for Americans would be the post 9/11 military attacks in Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda. The only reason our Special Operation units went into Afghanistan in November of 2021.

Most nuclear weapons use Plutonium, Pu-239. The Nagasaki bomb. "Fat Man." Implosion method. The Hiroshima bomb used Uranium, U-235. A gun barrel method. Uranium goes from one side of the barrel to the other. I don't think the US, Russia, or China use Uranium anymore for their nuclear bombs, and I don't know why Iran is going with U-235 instead of Pu-239. I'm assuming the basic Iranian bomb will look something like the "Little Boy" bomb. When Americans dropped this bomb in Hiroshima, it was untested. That is how sure the American physicists were that this thing would work. The Trinity test in New Mexico was a Plutonium bomb.


Firing a sub-critical mass of U-235 (the bullet) at another sub-critical mass of U-235 (the target) within the bomb. When these two masses combined, they created a critical mass, initiating a chain reaction that resulted in a nuclear explosion.

 

[AbominableJoman]

So sad. Israel has been through enough.

 

[IanEdwards]

When was the last time Iran attacked Israel? You are checking your phone, right?

in fairness, and I am sure you know from history I am no defender of Israel, but the proxy war shit the Iranians have done for many years makes it very difficult to paint them as an entirely innocent actor. or actually, impossible.

I had this disagreement with someone on another site when the US merc'd Soleimani the Quds Force dude, saying Trump was escalating or whatever, I'm like nah, this dude was heading the org that (EG) gave advanced hollow-charge warheads that made Iraqi militia attacks on US vehicles more effective, he's been playing that U/C war card against the US, he is fair game for any US counter-strike.

But back to Iran/Israel, its all part of the Iran-Saudi contest for moral and geopolitical dominance in the M/E. Iran have been playing that anti-Israel card because it gives them streetcred on the 'Arab Street' and some kind of moral pedestal, they use the violent rhetoric and supply military goodies to pretty much anyone looking to use them against Israel and they can paint themselves as the bastion of Islam against the Evil Empire. etc etc. There is no geopolitical world in which actions like that are consequence-free. You may disagree with the extent of the consequences, but consequences in some form were/are inevitable.

If they wanted to do all of that without risking the wrath of by far the best-armed and most belligerent power in the region (which you might think sensible), they could do so, they have the Houthis and various separatist groups in Saudi where they can remind everyone they are the Defenders of the (Shia) Faith. So now they are reaping the pain of making such a risky flex, it is what it is. Their geopolitical ego has taken a fucking kicking since Oct 7 with Hamas and Hezbollah being decimated and Syria falling to the Sunnis, to use the GoT phrase they played the game of thrones and lost heavy.

None of this means to say I believe the Iranians now, this time, really, really are within touching distance of getting a nuclear weapon, why would i believe Israel now when the predictions made consistently over nearly 30 years were clearly exaggerations?

but supplying a shitload of weapons to Israeli neighbours who had intent and professed will to use them, thats going to come with blowback. c'est la vie.

 

[Hog-train]

in fairness, and I am sure you know from history I am no defender of Israel, but the proxy war shit the Iranians have done for many years makes it very difficult to paint them as an entirely innocent actor. or actually, impossible.

I had this disagreement with someone on another site when the US merc'd Soleimani the Quds Force dude, saying Trump was escalating or whatever, I'm like nah, this dude was heading the org that (EG) gave advanced hollow-charge warheads that made Iraqi militia attacks on US vehicles more effective, he's been playing that U/C war card against the US, he is fair game for any US counter-strike.

But back to Iran/Israel, its all part of the Iran-Saudi contest for moral and geopolitical dominance in the M/E. Iran have been playing that anti-Israel card because it gives them streetcred on the 'Arab Street' and some kind of moral pedestal, they use the violent rhetoric and supply military goodies to pretty much anyone looking to use them against Israel and they can paint themselves as the bastion of Islam against the Evil Empire. etc etc. There is no geopolitical world in which actions like that are consequence-free. You may disagree with the extent of the consequences, but consequences in some form were/are inevitable.

If they wanted to do all of that without risking the wrath of by far the best-armed and most belligerent power in the region (which you might think sensible), they could do so, they have the Houthis and various separatist groups in Saudi where they can remind everyone they are the Defenders of the (Shia) Faith. So now they are reaping the pain of making such a risky flex, it is what it is. Their geopolitical ego has taken a fucking kicking since Oct 7 with Hamas and Hezbollah being decimated and Syria falling to the Sunnis, to use the GoT phrase they played the game of thrones and lost heavy.

None of this means to say I believe the Iranians now, this time, really, really are within touching distance of getting a nuclear weapon, why would i believe Israel now when the predictions made consistently over nearly 30 years were clearly exaggerations?

but supplying a shitload of weapons to Israeli neighbours who had intent and professed will to use them, thats going to come with blowback. c'est la vie.

All of that proxy shit Iran does is against Israel. Hardly a threat to the US.

 

[IanEdwards]

All of that proxy shit Iran does is against Israel. Hardly a threat to the US.

Well, yes, the quote i was replying to was 'when was the last time Iran attacked Israel', though.

 

[SurferH2O]

Better if it just stops. Nothing to see here.

It's been a way of passing time while nothing significant happens with the Israel/Iran/US struggle.

Here you go.... this just happened. I was considering starting a whole new thread just on this topic, but... I don't start many threads so....

Top Iranian cleric issues ‘fatwa’ against Trump, Netanyahu

Religious decree follows 12-day conflict where Trump-backed operations damaged Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

nypost.com

Iran-Israel conflict: Iran's top clerics issue 'fatwa' against Donald Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu; calls them 'warlords' - Times of India

Middle East News: A top Iranian cleric, Grand Ayatollah Shirazi, has issued a fatwa against Trump and Netanyahu, urging global Muslim action. This follows a reported 12

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Iranian grand ayatollah issues death decree, or fatwa, against Trump

One of Iran’s most senior Shiite clerics has issued a religious death decree, known as a fatwa, against President Trump over comments he made about Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

www.washingtontimes.com

If this is true and the Iranian Religious Zealots are calling for the murder of our President, what should be our response?

(A) The Ayatollah and his minions can eat some cruise missiles and smart bombs
(B) Talks - Hey guys... we want to bring you into the international community and work it out
(C) Other?

Did they line step too hard?

 

[N13]

Here you go.... this just happened. I was considering starting a whole new thread just on this topic, but... I don't start many threads so....

Top Iranian cleric issues ‘fatwa’ against Trump, Netanyahu

Religious decree follows 12-day conflict where Trump-backed operations damaged Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

nypost.com

Iran-Israel conflict: Iran's top clerics issue 'fatwa' against Donald Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu; calls them 'warlords' - Times of India

Middle East News: A top Iranian cleric, Grand Ayatollah Shirazi, has issued a fatwa against Trump and Netanyahu, urging global Muslim action. This follows a reported 12

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Iranian grand ayatollah issues death decree, or fatwa, against Trump

One of Iran’s most senior Shiite clerics has issued a religious death decree, known as a fatwa, against President Trump over comments he made about Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

www.washingtontimes.com

If this is true and the Iranian Religious Zealots are calling for the murder of our President, what should be our response?

(A) The Ayatollah and his minions can eat some cruise missiles and smart bombs
(B) Talks - Hey guys... we want to bring you into the international community and work it out
(C) Other?

Did they line step too hard?

If that happens, or an attempt, then A is likely, but be careful of a false flag that is blamed on Iran but caused by another agency.

 

[Siver!]

Here you go.... this just happened. I was considering starting a whole new thread just on this topic, but... I don't start many threads so....

Top Iranian cleric issues ‘fatwa’ against Trump, Netanyahu

Religious decree follows 12-day conflict where Trump-backed operations damaged Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

nypost.com

Iran-Israel conflict: Iran's top clerics issue 'fatwa' against Donald Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu; calls them 'warlords' - Times of India

Middle East News: A top Iranian cleric, Grand Ayatollah Shirazi, has issued a fatwa against Trump and Netanyahu, urging global Muslim action. This follows a reported 12

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Iranian grand ayatollah issues death decree, or fatwa, against Trump

One of Iran’s most senior Shiite clerics has issued a religious death decree, known as a fatwa, against President Trump over comments he made about Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

www.washingtontimes.com

If this is true and the Iranian Religious Zealots are calling for the murder of our President, what should be our response?

(A) The Ayatollah and his minions can eat some cruise missiles and smart bombs
(B) Talks - Hey guys... we want to bring you into the international community and work it out
(C) Other?

Did they line step too hard?

I mean, it's not good, but bear in mind they issued a fatwa on Salman Rushie in 1989 and it took until 2022 before anything happened, and he's not a President with enormous protection, he's a writer.

Iran has fuck all power in the West and hasn't even infiltrated Israel on anything like the scale Israel has infiltrated Iran over and over again.

Iran are a bunch of complete and utter cans.