• Xenforo is upgrading us to version 2.3.7 on Thursday Aug 14, 2025 at 01:00 AM BST. This upgrade includes several security fixes among other improvements. Expect a temporary downtime during this process. More info here

International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

Choose the following that best describes your position


  • Total voters
    362
  • Poll closed .
And who replaces Iran's current regime?

And how is it even done short of a full-on ground invasion and occupation of the country? Is there even an extant faction within Iran to usurp power? Is the plan to just raze the place and leave it spiraling into long-term prolonged instability (with a high chance of radicalism)? These aren't rhetorical questions, and I'm intensely skeptical that involvement will be limited to dropping massive air blast penetrator bombs comparable to small tactical nukes.

Particularly if you're an American, this is an entirely new level of escalation and recklessness.

It's extremely disturbing.
 
WTF? You're delusional. People can literally justify voting for Trump because the Democrats sucked so entirely bad.

Conned is:
  • having a senile President and a nation run by un-elected Democrat officials and an autopen.
  • not having a Primary, and told who your candidate is.
  • having the MSM report on one party at a 90% negative rate and the other party at a 90% positive rate... and it's been happening for years.
  • having the borders wide open and told they are secure.
  • having run away inflation and told it's temporary by Democrats and their senile puppet.
You shouldn't talk to other people about being "conned". You're a sucker.
I would vote for a war to defend a potential nuclear threat, then a illegal alien war invasion of my country. These leftist clowns need to either stfu, or self deport. Either deal with the fact Trump is your "KING" lol for 4 years, or GTFO. When JD Vance becomes president in 2028, hopefully these leftist clown self deport.
 
I would vote for a war to defend a potential nuclear threat, then a illegal alien war invasion of my country. These leftist clowns need to either stfu, or self deport. Either deal with the fact Trump is your "KING" lol for 4 years, or GTFO. When JD Vance becomes president in 2028, hopefully these leftist clown self deport.
What on Earth did you just attempt to type here?
 
The deal Obama struck is a hilarious topic to me. I feel like of the people I hear talk about it, absolutely nobody has seriously looked into it. Maybe heard someone on the radio or TV say something (a conclusion, no meat to the argument) about it and that's it.

It's always some absolutely throw away generic comment. Never specifics.
 
The deal Obama struck is a hilarious topic to me. I feel like of the people I hear talk about it, absolutely nobody has seriously looked into it. Maybe heard someone on the radio or TV say something about it and that's it.

It's always some absolutely throw away generic comment. Never specifics.
What specifics are people not considering when discussing the deal's impact?
 
We got Iran to stop pursuing nuclear development. Ya know, the entire thing you are arguing Iran can't have.

Hard to trust a deal that requires 60 days notification before a site is inspected for compliance, and only a certain number of sites are eligible to be inspected and others can't be inspected.

It was such a a great deal that Biden didn't bother attempting to get it reinstated.

Oh, and even if the terms of the deal were being honored, Iran couldn't create nuclear material... for 15 years...and only fools believe they ever did that to begin with.
 
9xqn9k.jpg
 
LOL @ Tucker destroying that idiot Ted Cruz here. Cruz also slipped up and admitted that WE are attacking Iran already. WHOOPSIES!


Ted Cruz is such a fucking can.

And Tucker was such a unapologetic partisan party man for so long that I can't trust him yet. I get such bad vibes of opportunistic-ness, that it's hard to take him seriously. Even if I agree with some of the things he has said in the past couple of years.
 
Hard to trust a deal that requires 60 days notification before a site is inspected for compliance, and only a certain number of sites are eligible to be inspected and others can't be inspected.
Why did every US intelligence agency certify it, as did every one of the other participants in the deal?
It was such a a great deal that Biden didn't bother attempting to get it reinstated.
So because Trump and Bibi fucked their allies, it was up to Biden to fix the mess? And it's his fault he didn't? Lol. You can't even acknowledge who caused this mess.
Oh, and even if the terms of the deal were being honored, Iran couldn't create nuclear material... for 15 years...and only fools believe they ever did that to begin with.
So the deal would have kept Iran from developing nuclear weapons for longer than our current timeline? IF we are to believe Israel's claim that it is.

Genius foreign policy idea you got there.
 
Oh how I long for the days when our regime changes were executed via Paramilitary Black-Ops. It's like we dont even care about finesse and elegance anymore, we're not taking pride in our work.
Diplomacy has gone out the window. We have a self proclaimed dealmaker that negotiates like a Mob enforcer collecting a debt.
 
What specifics are people not considering when discussing the deal's impact?

all of them. ive never heard anyone back a claim that it is good or bad in anyway saying anything beyond we got nothing they got everything kind of talk.

idont think its an area where a lot of people would have any sort of experience or expertise in either.
 
Why did every US intelligence agency certify it, as did every one of the other participants in the deal?

Um no. The buildings of US Intelligence Agencies have never certified anything.
Who certified it within those US Agencies were Obama appointees.

So because Trump and Bibi fucked their allies, it was up to Biden to fix the mess? And it's his fault he didn't? Lol. You can't even acknowledge who caused this mess.
Who caused this mess was Iran pursuing nuclear weapons while being the major backer of terrorist organizations within the region.

And yep, it was Biden's fuck up.
Toss it in top of the pile.
So the deal would have kept Iran from developing nuclear weapons for longer than our current timeline? IF we are to believe Israel's claim that it is.
Oh so in your book it kept Iran from making nukes ... Until 2030.
Sounds like a great idea from the idiots that believe climate change is going to kill everyone in 10 years.
The fact is Iran having nuclear weapons any year is a bad idea, but for some reason you think it's a good idea.

Avenue94, who has criticized absolutely everything about Israel's means to defend themselves, as if they don't have a right to defend themselves, thinks Iran having nuclear weapons is a good thing.

You're not even trying to be subtle anymore.
 
all of them. ive never heard anyone back a claim that it is good or bad in anyway saying anything beyond we got nothing they got everything kind of talk.

idont think its an area where a lot of people would have any sort of experience or expertise in either.
It's quite simple. Iran verifiably stopped nuclear development and abided by the terms of the deal.

Do you disagree?
Um no. The buildings of US Intelligence Agencies have never certified anything.
Who certified it within those US Agencies were Obama appointees.
Since when is Mike Pompeo an Obama appointee?
Who caused this mess was Iran pursuing nuclear weapons while being the major backer of terrorist organizations within the region.

And yep, it was Biden's fuck up.
Toss it in top of the pile.
The fuck up was screwing over our allies and our reputation for deals. Trump did that.

Iran was objectively further away from a nuclear bomb under the deal than after Trump pulled out.
Oh so in your book it kept Iran from making nukes ... Until 2030.
As opposed to the scenario where Iran is making nukes in 2025, according to Trump?

Are you unaware which year comes first between 2025 and 2030.
Avenue94, who has criticized absolutely everything about Israel's means to defend themselves, as if they don't have a right to defend themselves, thinks Iran having nuclear weapons is a good thing.
Point me to the part of international law that allows preventive war.
You're not even trying to be subtle anymore.
I'm not subtle about my doubt for poorly planned regime change and lawless war that risks dragging the US into it, correct.
 
Um no. The buildings of US Intelligence Agencies have never certified anything.
Who certified it within those US Agencies were Obama appointees.


Who caused this mess was Iran pursuing nuclear weapons while being the major backer of terrorist organizations within the region.

And yep, it was Biden's fuck up.
Toss it in top of the pile.

Oh so in your book it kept Iran from making nukes ... Until 2030.
Sounds like a great idea from the idiots that believe climate change is going to kill everyone in 10 years.
The fact is Iran having nuclear weapons any year is a bad idea, but for some reason you think it's a good idea.

Avenue94, who has criticized absolutely everything about Israel's means to defend themselves, as if they don't have a right to defend themselves, thinks Iran having nuclear weapons is a good thing.

You're not even trying to be subtle anymore.
Dude don’t bother

Dudes a Fukin troll and he’s getting kicks out of this.
 
I don’t think that dude ever responds to anyone. Possible bot.
No he is just a troll. If you check his history for threads he starts it becomes pretty obvious.

Like for real. I’m not saying it as insult- he seriously just trolls this sub. He’s very successful at it too
 
I would vote for a war to defend a potential nuclear threat, then a illegal alien war invasion of my country. These leftist clowns need to either stfu, or self deport. Either deal with the fact Trump is your "KING" lol for 4 years, or GTFO. When JD Vance becomes president in 2028, hopefully these leftist clown self deport.
Judging this post by your handle and join date the only explanation is an advanced case of CTE after all these years of KOs. :p
 
Back
Top