International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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do you know what foreign policy is? And you think it's in the Trump's Administrations best interest to not let people know what they intend to do when sending our military into harms way? This isn't the gotcha you thought it was my guy.

Pretty sure those conversations are below our paygrade and clearance level, my guy.
 
If they're not capable, what have Western leaders been negotiating over and bribing them for, for the past few decades?

Who says they're not capable? They are, if given enough time and no sabotage or political pressure.

Western leaders have been negotiating because they want IAEA inspectors inside Iran to make sure. That's what the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) negotiations were for.

Then Trump killed the deal due to political pressure from Israel and their lobbies in 2018.

The idea that Iran was imminently going to get nukes any minute now is complete horseshit because you need to enrich plutonium to 90% for it to be weapon grade. And even in the most aggressive estimates of the West, they only enriched to 60% and the bulk to 20%.

On top of that, they would need the delivery system (aka missiles) which Iran doesn't have at all. Which would take significant scientific expertise and technology that we're not even sure Iran can muster. That's why Gabbard said they're not planning a nuclear weapon.
 
I personally like the rest of humanity enough to not think that the world cannot possibly go on with America, bestest democracy and great country of all time.

Like I said, then again I'm not a bitter old man.
No, you're a very privileged American who gets to have these opinions.
 
Can anyone give a sitrep on what has actually happened on the ground in Israel tonight? I am seeing all sorts of conflicting information - everything from the Iron Dome is failing, to citizens being given an all clear to leave their bunkers.

both those have happened. Iron dome is starting to fail a bit, on the last barrage of missiles. It malfunctioned a couple of times as well as let more % of missiles through. Citizens were also given the clear to leave bunkers like 30 minutes ago for now.
 
both those have happened. Iron dome is starting to fail a bit, on the last barrage of missiles. It malfunctioned a couple of times as well as let more % of missiles through. Citizens were also given the clear to leave bunkers like 30 minutes ago for now.
Many thanks for the update. Trying to glean useful information from Twitter/X is virtually impossible.
 
Who says they're not capable? They are, if given enough time and no sabotage or political pressure.
Well, that might have something to do with the "any time now for the last 30 years" thing. Perhaps they are being delayed every now and then? That train ain't gonna run forever.

Either way, I don't want those crazy motherfuckers having a nuclear bomb. Do you? It's gonna become a big problem in the next 50 years(probably way less) with many nations. I don't want to have more fingers on more buttons.
 
He would love if we helped with attacks .. we shouldn’t


« They chant death to america »
« This is good vs evil »

LMFAO I think this shows how little he thinks of Americans, with such rethoric. This feels like 2003 again where the whole world felt the magnitude of American ignorance.
 
No, you're a very privileged American who gets to have these opinions.
I think the son of an immigrant who grew up under a horrible authoritarian regime might know a little more about that experience than a Canadian Maga cosplayer.

But sure, go tell all the folks who fought for democracy in other countries that they were doing it wrong and should have just blown up the world instead being resilient and making their countries and the world a better place.

Not surprising given your flirting with escalating an illegal war with Iran when the best option we have to replace the current regime is the Shah's family.
 
both those have happened. Iron dome is starting to fail a bit, on the last barrage of missiles. It malfunctioned a couple of times as well as let more % of missiles through. Citizens were also given the clear to leave bunkers like 30 minutes ago for now.
Worth noting the point of Iron Dome isn't to stop every missile that comes through. It prioritizes, and Israel will continue to do so if the supply/incoming threats equation goes the wrong way. Doesn't necessarily mean outright failure, that's very different.

And yes, no missile defense is every going to be close to flawless in a situation like this.
 
« They chant death to america »
« This is good vs evil »

LMFAO I think this shows how little he thinks of Americans, with such rethoric. This feels like 2003 again where the whole world felt the magnitude of American ignorance.

It's crazy, I'm offended he said that shit. How can you watch that as an American and not feel like you are being used? also who the fuck says shit like that?

"America First, not America dead'​

 

I don't know how true this information is. If anything, Iran would use the negotiations to buy time. Like what Ukraine is trying to do with Russia. Israel is the one that will be going to the negotiating table if this conflict with Iran goes beyond two weeks. Iran has an endless stockpile of missiles to throw against Israel. They can keep this up for months. The regime's economy invests way, way, more on military weaponry than Israel or the US. That is why their people suffer.
 
Worth noting the point of Iron Dome isn't to stop every missile that comes through. It prioritizes, and Israel will continue to do so if the supply/incoming threats equation goes the wrong way. Doesn't necessarily mean outright failure, that's very different.

And yes, no missile defense is every going to be close to flawless in a situation like this.

for sure, but I saw it malfunction live. It literally randomly fired an AA missile directly into a civilian area for no seeable reason. But I mean overall its interception rate is pretty crazy all things considered.
 
On top of that, they would need the delivery system (aka missiles) which Iran doesn't have at all. Which would take significant scientific expertise and technology that we're not even sure Iran can muster. That's why Gabbard said they're not planning a nuclear weapon

First off I appreciate the parts of your post I did not quote because it was educational for me as someone who doesn’t know much about the subject.

Secondly, couldn’t They just get a missile capable of delivering a nuclear payload from a sympathetic nation capable of producing one?
 
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