Is triangle choke effective nowadays?

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  1. eijisawakita White Belt

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    It just came to me, do you think triangles are effective way to win a fight nowadays? Because before when I was watching MMA during pride days, and even in the UFC, triangles seemed to be one of most commonly used and effective means to submit an opponent. But now,after watching the last diego sanchez fight against jon fitch, the triangle made by Sanchez was sunk in pretty deep but Fitch managed to get out from it. Same goes for other fighters today. Probably, triangles were mostly used before so a lot of fighters today know how to get out of it. So guys, what are you opinions? thanks
     
  2. mj12 Blue Belt

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    if the triangle is applied correctly then there is no escape
     
  3. Astroboy Brown Belt

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    umm yes they are.
     
  4. Chris H Amateur Fighter

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    Yes they're effective...
     
  5. kuroMaguro Green Belt

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    After Fitch got out of Diego's triangle, there was a general consensus in the MMA community agreeing that the triangle was no longer effective.
     
  6. Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    I feel like my life has been a waste :(
     
  7. Terere** Purple Belt

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    No, the triangle is doomed to extinction! BUT! In the distant and remote lands of Panama, only one man can save it. Yes, this person, or shall I say, this mighty Jiu-Jitsu hero, with the help of his magical technique, "knee on biceps" is the only hope for the triangle. Who knows, if this man can come over to America and teach his "triangle heaven" we can see it applied successfully in the UFC again? But, this can take some time, since our grappling lord is taking some time off to cure the acne on his face...
     
  8. SnowMongoose Blue Belt

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    OP is looking at it wrong...
    just because a fighter escapes it, doesn't mean it's a poor submission...
    just means that it wasn't right in that exact scenario.

    There may be more poor triangle attempts than pretty finishes via it, but that doesn't mean it is an ineffective sub.
     
  9. Trickster*** Banned Banned

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    Why dont you ask Kurt Pellegrino or Denis Kang this question!

    Nate Diaz knew the MINUTE he slapped it on Pellegrino that the fight was over! Some triangles simply can not be fought....others are weak! If yours is weak I recommend that you immediately go for the arm bar or omoplata instead of the triangle!
     
  10. Jimmy Cerra Amateur Fighter

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    Nooooooo! If your triangle is weak, I recommend that you immediately tap out. You lost, fighting with a weak triangle is crazy!
     
  11. killer_kicks88 Green Belt

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    they are no longer effective. Neither are armbars or omoplatas. Guillotine and rear naked are also outdated. As a matter of fact, the only submission that works anymore is the gogoplata.
     
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    perfect

    you win the internetz
     
  13. Kimuralex Brown Belt

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    this man knows what he is talking about, in fact i was just informed that the armbar and triangle from the guard are no longer effective and are no longer taught in REAL schools. REAL schools now focus on the latest gogoplata entry in their beginner curriculum. So if you dont know atleast 5-6 different setups for a gogo and your above a 1 stripe white, you need to look elsewhere!!!:D:D:D
     
  14. killer_kicks88 Green Belt

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    dangit! I gotta change schools now:icon_cry2
     
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    demian maia still finds it very affective.
     
  16. lethalazn Purple Belt

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    If you're talking about the obvious triangle chokes setups that every white belt knows better than to fall for
    - leaving head down
    - leaving one arm above and below legs
    - winding a arm too far up
    - letting someone pull one wrist up and one down
    You could say they could be extinct or no longer effective, but there's a ton of other ways to SET UP the triangle isn't

    Setups might go obsolete and change, but submissions are here to stay, unless we stop needing carotid arteries or grow another arm or leg or w/e.....
     
  17. clinchman Orange Belt

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    I'd say from the position that one applies a triangle, a RNC probably isn't a very intelligent thing to go for. But what do I know, maybe someone should stick their head inside one and judge for themselves.
     
  18. Hit-or-be-hit Green Belt

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    umm the triangle choke is one of the only submissions i can get any1 w so umm yeah it works! just spend a lot of time working on it.
     
  19. James.Jitsu** Banned Banned

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    Triangles work well.
     
  20. PhillyD45 Orange Belt

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    I'm a catch guy and I even have to say that triangles are weapons of mass destruction.

    Now a-days people know more counters and escapes, that's all
     
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