Is planet earth unique to the universe?

[blaseblase]

We have "observed" essentially nothing.

We have observed some light from stars at varying distances and supposedly have rovers on Mars, landed briefly on Venus with 1970s tech and did a flew fly by's of gas/ice giant outer planets.

We haven't even sent probes to the most likely possible sources of life in our own solar system (subsurface oceans).

There could be unfathomable amounts of life at any given time and we would never obersve it due to the enormous distances (as well as time) which are effectively insurmountable based on our current knowledge of physics.

I highly doubt there's intelligent life in our own solar system since we havent received any communications via radio waves. But the larger point stands.

 

[ferrisjso]

Yeah sorry but as you say its still a very massive shift in distance with could possible be a barrier in a way which travel within the Milky Way isnt.

Potentially hundreds of millions of years or longer at sub light speed with very little in waypoints in-between, a long hungry trip for any Tyranids.

Interesting thing is both Milky Way and Andromeda have a bunhc of satellite galaxys circling them that are not considered part of the Milky Way and Andromeda "proper". The Milky Way one goes to about 200k LY away out while the Andromeda one gets as close as 2.0 milion LY. So the big empty space is more like 1.8 million.

Another part of this story is the third biggest galaxy in our area Triangelum) will hit Andromeda before it hits us. It is currently angling towards the empty space so while its actually further away now depending how it hits that might actually become the closest galaxy.

 

[ferrisjso]

I highly doubt there's intelligent life in our own solar system since we havent received any communications via radio waves. But the larger point stands.

If these ufos are really aliens they are probably from the solar system given how hard it would be to consistantly get here if they weren't.. Those things are faster than anything we have by a lot but they do not appear to be travelling the speed of light. Indicating they are coming from a location closer than Alpha Centauri.

We don't have a live feed of the solar system them zipping around undetected is pretty reasonable tbh.

Its not impossible they live on Planet X which apparently exists. Whether it exists or not the thing thats become clear the last few years is there is a region of the solar system beyond the solar system we can't see due to poor lighting. The discovery of Sedna and co basically means the Solar System is over 10 times bigger than we thought. When growing up we were taught Neptunes 30 AU and Plutos 40 AU is the edge of the Solar System the truth is the edge is beyond 1000 AU.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

If it isnt unique.
Show me another one just like it?

Well we haven't observed or discovered enough planets to clearly say it's unique.

If planet Earth is unique, what makes this solar system unique to other solar systems? What makes the galaxy that harbours this planet unique to other galaxies?

 

[Beechwood]

The universe if made of 99% plasma. Atomic matter, such as the earth is very rare overall. Not long ago I was reading a mention on this. Some believe earth is unique and make a good case for that, and others were making good points that our planet and life is not unique. i hope some day we find out.

 

[TestosterOWN]

my theory is there are other earth like planets with humans in different stages. One planet has iPhone 974s and one planet just got introduced to pornhub.

 

[PeterGriffin]

my theory is there are other earth like planets with humans in different stages. One planet has iPhone 974s and one planet just got introduced to pornhub.

Sooo... a multiverse?

 

[PeterGriffin]

Honestly, if the Earth is unique and humanity is the pinnacle of intelligent life, I can't help think the Big Bang got it wrong.

In the realm of possibilities, there has to be aliens out there that just don't want anything to do with us. As a species, we are just a bunch of assholes who salute a different flag. They don't want to catch whatever stupid we're pulling off successfully.

If they can travel in space all willy-nilly and come find us, we probably should just get taken out anyways.

 

[MWB1982]

I think the universe is the bottomless pit. We are in it. The older I get, the more I believe this theory that I came up with. I think the universe is some kind of cosmic veil keeping us separated from whatever is on the other side

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Honestly, if the Earth is unique and humanity is the pinnacle of intelligent life, I can't help think the Big Bang got it wrong.

In the realm of possibilities, there has to be aliens out there that just don't want anything to do with us. As a species, we are just a bunch of assholes who salute a different flag. They don't want to catch whatever stupid we're pulling off successfully.

If they can travel in space all willy-nilly and come find us, we probably should just get taken out anyways.

Very well said.

 

[pugilistico]

I think the universe is the bottomless pit. We are in it. The older I get, the more I believe this theory that I came up with. I think the universe is some kind of cosmic veil keeping us separated from whatever is on the other side

I think the Buddhists have the right idea. The cycle of life and death is constrained to the universe and perhaps there is a way to transcend this life within the cosmos.

 

[RemyR]

Earth is a hell of a lot more unique than people realize. The more you look into it the more you realize this really is an odd planet. Molten magnetic core with plate tectonics, large exoplanets, lunar tides that help support life, and countless other small things all add up.

Absolutely completely unique? Probably not the the grand scheme of things. But unless matter is infinite I'd bet that true Earth like planets (not just those in the Goldilocks zone) are extremely rare.

 

[PBAC]

if there was intelligent life we'd have received signals from the oldest parts of the universe by now

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Earth is a hell of a lot more unique than people realize. The more you look into it the more you realize this really is an odd planet. Molten magnetic core with plate tectonics, large exoplanets, lunar tides that help support life, and countless other small things all add up.

Absolutely completely unique? Probably not the the grand scheme of things. But unless matter is infinite I'd bet that true Earth like planets (not just those in the Goldilocks zone) are extremely rare.

Do you find it interesting that humans only came to existence around 300 thousand years ago? And the Earth is about 4.543 billion years old.

So basically been in only 0.1% existence of earth age. 99.99 percent of this Earth has lived without humans. I just find that fascinating.

Therefore, our existence is futile in a sense. We were just lucky to come at the time as we did, due to mass extinctions I believe.

 

[RemyR]

Do you find it interesting that humans only came to existence around 300 thousand years ago? And the Earth is about 4.543 billion years old.

So basically been in only 0.1% existence of earth age. 99.99 percent of this Earth has lived without humans. I just find that fascinating.

Therefore, our existence is futile in a sense. We were just lucky to come at the time as we did, due to mass extinctions I believe.

Yeah that's kind of the point I'm making, when you look at everything all together it's pretty crazy how it all falls into place for us.

For instance you mentioned mass extinctions. That was another necessity for us as an intelligent species to get to where we are. We have hundreds of millions of years of animals dying out leading to fossil fuels. And like it or not fossil fuels led to an explosion of growth and innovation to get us to the point where we can send satellites to space and ponder what's out there. Had we rose as a species a a hundred million years earlier we most likely wouldn't have progressed far technologically (ignoring the whole dinosaur threat).

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Yeah that's kind of the point I'm making, when you look at everything all together it's pretty crazy how it all falls into place for us.

For instance you mentioned mass extinctions. That was another necessity for us as an intelligent species to get to where we are. We have hundreds of millions of years of animals dying out leading to fossil fuels. And like it or not fossil fuels led to an explosion of growth and innovation to get us to the point where we can send satellites to space and ponder what's out there. Had we rose as a species a a hundred million years earlier we most likely wouldn't have progressed far technologically (ignoring the whole dinosaur threat).

So don't you think the likelihood of other sentient beings or intelligent beings can be harboured in other planets outside of this solar system or in this galaxy somewhere perhaps even in other galaxies?

Apparently there is 3,916 solar systems in the milky way galaxy alone. And so far we only know one solar systems harbours multiple amounts of life and intelligent beings. And were not even thinking of 2 trillion galaxies which would have how many solar systems in between them?

It just doesn't add up or make any sense if we're all alone in this vastness and multitude of planets, solar systems and galaxies.

I mean planet Earth is made up with the same space stuff am I right?

 

[RemyR]

So don't you think the likelihood of other sentient beings or intelligent beings can be harboured in other planets outside of this solar system or in this galaxy somewhere perhaps even in other galaxies?

Apparently there is 3,916 solar systems in the milky way galaxy alone. And so far we only know one solar systems harbours multiple amounts of life and intelligent beings. And were not even thinking of 2 trillion galaxies which would have how many solar systems in between them?

It just doesn't add up or make any sense if we're all alone in this vastness and multitude of planets, solar systems and galaxies.

I mean planet Earth is made up with the same space stuff am I right?

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we (intelligent life) are unique to the galaxy. Universally sure I think there's a decent chance. However I do think there a fuck ton of other things people aren't taking into equation when looking for life as we know it. Too many people just get focus on the "oh this planet has water so it's a candidate for intelligent life" way of thinking.

I'm honestly more interested in stuff like a possible silicon based microbial life form or some other form of life that's truly alien vs looking for life in earth like planets.

 

[Streeter]

"Warp" speed is theoretically possible. To go many times light speed. Folks that think near light speed is it ......I believe are just wrong. But it requires manipulation of Dark Matter and an incredible power source , let alone a way to map out where your going. All of which we are MANY Generations from developing. That doesn't mean Aliens don't have this ability.


I don't think there's many planets like ours but in our galaxy alone there's likely a few hundred given there's trillions of stars and exponentially more planets.

I dont think intergalactic travel is possible though. A too far even for warp and the Void in between could be issue even you could.

 

[Mulder_81]

I think the universe is the bottomless pit. We are in it. The older I get, the more I believe this theory that I came up with. I think the universe is some kind of cosmic veil keeping us separated from whatever is on the other side

Who says there is anything on the other side?

if there was intelligent life we'd have received signals from the oldest parts of the universe by now

Who says any intelligent life that may exist out there gives a shit about us?

 

[Kb7]

Prison planet.