Is Pereira actually a good guy?

[RichardHarrow]

You’ve got to have a few loose screws to be a pro fighter. You have to be off your rockers to be a champ.

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

What's wrong with looking up to people and searching for role models? It's normal human behaviour, you're being too cynical I feel

For sure, and in and of itself, having role models or at least successful people to emulate is not inherently a bad thing.

But when coupled with the kinda fanbase mma (and combat sports in general) attracts, and the things we choose to praise in the competitors and athletes, there's the reality that young men are just swapping out the childhood daydreams of being super heroes and soldiers in exchange for a mal-adjusted meathead culture where might makes right, and we give the most special violent psychos a pass for their bullshit.

It's not on the athletes to make sure the fans are in touch with reality, and the fans aren't always developed enough to see their idols for the very human people they are.

Take a guy like Izzy, or Strickland. There are 13 year olds out there who see the behaviors those 2 exhibit and all they take from it is a persona to celebrate and imitate in their own life.

Never realizing that they are both likely extremely damaged men, full stop.

Having heroes or people you look up to is a natural thing, I just don't think they should be prize fighters who are often praised almost exclusively for how good they are at fighting

 

[Yabadabaev]

No, he was former alcoholic and now he repeats CHAMA all day everyday, let Nina Drama smell his feet for views and likes and embarrassment, didn't learn English after all those years, his kid is bum, but all of that is not important I like his fights and what he did in last few years

 

[europe1]

One thing I've always found odd about Poatan is that in Brazil, he's known for being pro-Native rights (being indigenous himself). Which entails being anti-buisness since buisnesses are so often in conflict with native peoples over the resources of their land. (Logging, farming, mineral extraction, land-use, what have you).

Yet, in the United States, Poatan is pro-Trump. Which is rather odd since Trump is pretty notorious for being anti-Native rights.

But I think this is more an outgrowth of him not thinking a lot about politics and thus not considering its implications. Plus people in general care less about foreign places.

 

[Décio Pintonellas]

You must be one of those toxic, unbearable, cancerous fans of Russian, Muslim, Caucasian MMA fighters who constantly attack, defame, and persecute Brazilian MMA fighters.

What's the problem? Do you want to defame and demonize Alex Pereira? He's not perfect, a saint; he has flaws like any human being, but he's never hurt anyone, he helps many people, does charity work, and has social projects.

 

[HHJ]

Does it matter?

 

[HHJ]

You must be one of those toxic, unbearable, cancerous fans of Russian, Muslim, Caucasian MMA fighters who constantly attack, defame, and persecute Brazilian MMA fighters.

Maybe you need a lie down and some Nytol sir

Dont hurt yourself

 

[Décio Pintonellas]

Hard to say. In my view, if Glover Teixeira considers him a good person, then he probably is.

But it’s definitely not a unanimous opinion. He has a long history of falling out with former teammates and coaches. He split on bad terms with Wera Belocqua, his mentor and the guy who originally ‘discovered’ him. Later he had issues with coach Vinicius ‘Reviravolta’ during the peak of his Glory run. More recently, he had a public disagreement with Lee Alves.

He also clashed with Wallid Ismail, the Jungle Fight promoter—though in that case he was likely in the right, since Wallid has a reputation for being… let’s say, less than honorable.

Every woman he’s dated seems to walk away resentful. He comes across as someone with very thin skin; even constructive criticism sets him off. He’s had problems with multiple Brazilian content creators and journalists, not to mention other fighters. Walter Walker recently hinted that he’s an asshole in person, despite looking like a nice guy online—he didn’t mention Alex by name, but if he had, Alex probably would’ve reacted the same way he did with others like Esquiva Falcão or Vinicius Lockdog.

Cosmo Alexandre has also told a story from the gym: he once tried to show Alex how to make his kicks more efficient, Poatan didn’t take it well, and basically challenged him to demonstrate it during sparring.

So yeah… opinions on him vary a lot.

Poatan helped Lee Alves by bringing him to the USA to work, while Lee Alves was deceitful towards him, betrayed him, and rooted against Pereira.

 

[HHJ]

is Decio the new MIND MINE?


MAYBE??

MAYBE.

 

[Décio Pintonellas]

Hard to say. In my view, if Glover Teixeira considers him a good person, then he probably is.

But it’s definitely not a unanimous opinion. He has a long history of falling out with former teammates and coaches. He split on bad terms with Wera Belocqua, his mentor and the guy who originally ‘discovered’ him. Later he had issues with coach Vinicius ‘Reviravolta’ during the peak of his Glory run. More recently, he had a public disagreement with Lee Alves.

He also clashed with Wallid Ismail, the Jungle Fight promoter—though in that case he was likely in the right, since Wallid has a reputation for being… let’s say, less than honorable.

Every woman he’s dated seems to walk away resentful. He comes across as someone with very thin skin; even constructive criticism sets him off. He’s had problems with multiple Brazilian content creators and journalists, not to mention other fighters. Walter Walker recently hinted that he’s an asshole in person, despite looking like a nice guy online—he didn’t mention Alex by name, but if he had, Alex probably would’ve reacted the same way he did with others like Esquiva Falcão or Vinicius Lockdog.

Cosmo Alexandre has also told a story from the gym: he once tried to show Alex how to make his kicks more efficient, Poatan didn’t take it well, and basically challenged him to demonstrate it during sparring.

So yeah… opinions on him vary a lot.

"Walter Walker recently hinted that he’s an asshole in person, despite looking like a nice guy online".

Walter Walker is a jerk, he only talks nonsense, acts like a bully, kisses the asses of Russian MMA fighters because he trains with them, he said Poatan would lose to Magomed Ankalaev, as if he were rooting against him, he always criticizes and speaks ill of Brazilian fighters and Brazilian MMA, while praising Russian fighters and Russian MMA.

 

[Diggie]

His vibes seem pure

 

[Skarsgard]

Probably not. He's from the slums of Brazil and became a professional fighter. He's probably a decent enough guy now, but I wouldn't expect him to hold up against a guy from some cozy American suburb that's never missed a meal.

 

[Décio Pintonellas]

Hard to say. In my view, if Glover Teixeira considers him a good person, then he probably is.

But it’s definitely not a unanimous opinion. He has a long history of falling out with former teammates and coaches. He split on bad terms with Wera Belocqua, his mentor and the guy who originally ‘discovered’ him. Later he had issues with coach Vinicius ‘Reviravolta’ during the peak of his Glory run. More recently, he had a public disagreement with Lee Alves.

He also clashed with Wallid Ismail, the Jungle Fight promoter—though in that case he was likely in the right, since Wallid has a reputation for being… let’s say, less than honorable.

Every woman he’s dated seems to walk away resentful. He comes across as someone with very thin skin; even constructive criticism sets him off. He’s had problems with multiple Brazilian content creators and journalists, not to mention other fighters. Walter Walker recently hinted that he’s an asshole in person, despite looking like a nice guy online—he didn’t mention Alex by name, but if he had, Alex probably would’ve reacted the same way he did with others like Esquiva Falcão or Vinicius Lockdog.

Cosmo Alexandre has also told a story from the gym: he once tried to show Alex how to make his kicks more efficient, Poatan didn’t take it well, and basically challenged him to demonstrate it during sparring.

So yeah… opinions on him vary a lot.

All those people you mentioned who started attacking Poatan, and he only responded in kind. Others can attack and defame him, but Alex Pereira has to stay silent without responding, or he's not "considered a decent person"?

It seems that every Brazilian MMA fighter has to accept being humiliated, treated like trash without responding, like Charles Oliveira or José Aldo by other MMA fighters, and even be grateful.

Most Brazilian MMA journalists seem to hate their own Brazilian fighters; they're always attacking, defaming, writing sensationalist articles and reports, while they root for, have a fetish for, and prefer foreign MMA fighters, especially Russians.

 

[MRudi]

Imagine if you would have to investigate the personal life of an author, an actor, a musician to be able to enjoy their art. Probably wouldn't even leave you time to be able to enjoy their actual art.

In this here case their mixed martial art.

I am reading like a 100 books a year for last 20 years and I always investigate authors. I mean - it is even hard to understand the art without knowing the background. All this details helps you understand the actual work

 

[Skarsgard]

One thing I've always found odd about Poatan is that in Brazil, he's known for being pro-Native rights (being indigenous himself). Which entails being anti-buisness since buisnesses are so often in conflict with native peoples over the resources of their land. (Logging, farming, mineral extraction, land-use, what have you).

Yet, in the United States, Poatan is pro-Trump. Which is rather odd since Trump is pretty notorious for being anti-Native rights.

But I think this is more an outgrowth of him not thinking a lot about politics and thus not considering its implications. Plus people in general care less about foreign places.

Trump is very involved with the UFC and its parent company. It's not a bad idea to kiss his ass.

 

[arcadeperfect]

Put it like this:

There's never anything that surprising about the shady shit that ends up surrounding any of these fighters.

The Edgars and Wonderboys and DJs are statistical aberrations, the rest are as susceptible to flaws as everyone else.

They might belong on the podium, but they don't inherently deserve to be put on a pedestal just by virtue of being good fighters.

The whole idolization thing was always weird to me. Nothing wrong with enjoying watching someone perform, but to idolize their characteristics and fanboy over them in person? Really weird.

 

[arcadeperfect]

What's wrong with looking up to people and searching for role models? It's normal human behaviour, you're being too cynical I feel

A role model should be someone you actually know. Watching some guy on tv for a few minutes that you have zero personal connection doesn't make that person a role model.

 

[SuperNerd]

The whole idolization thing was always weird to me. Nothing wrong with enjoying watching someone perform, but to idolize their characteristics and fanboy over them in person? Really weird.

Im still trying to scrub the world of photos of me doing the people's eye brown in middle school.

 

[L0ki]

Asides from fighting and related content (sparring, trash talk, etc.), I haven't seen anything that would imply he's a bad person.

He's pranked Glover but he's also gotten him some pretty dope gifts.

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

The whole idolization thing was always weird to me. Nothing wrong with enjoying watching someone perform, but to idolize their characteristics and fanboy over them in person? Really weird.

Yeah I mean, I'm a sucker for a storyline or a good gimmick, but there are dudes who need the run off from "Alpha shit" to flesh out their own characters

Idk, it's weird but I get how it happens