Is Liberty University a cult?

[Trotsky]

Don't kid yourself. Most majors at most universities are aimed at indoctrination rather than education. That line has been blurry as fuck for like 50 years. I used to work with a chick who went to liberty university and she was the farthest thing from religious as you can get and just went there cause they offered her a full ride. As far as I know, it's just a school that doesn't harp on nihilism.

This is not only incredibly stupid, but also incredibly toxic to proper social development. The idea that hundreds of thousands of departments are all separately ran by would-be cult leaders and not passionate academics and professional administrators is also hilariously naive/delusional.

You should be ashamed.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

None of those schools, even BYU, is anywhere as disgraceful as Liberty.

I would straight up throw away any resume with Liberty on it. Meanwhile, I happen to know very intelligent and successful people from both BYU and TCU.

Byu kicked a star off their bball team bc of premarital sex....

Despite having jim mcmahon as their qb 20 years prior

 

[nostradumbass]

This is not only incredibly stupid, but also incredibly toxic to proper social development. The idea that hundreds of thousands of departments are all separately ran by would-be cult leaders and not passionate academics and professional administrators is also hilariously naive/delusional.

You should be ashamed.

That you said "proper social development" kind of closes the case. "Passionionate academics" can all suck my dick. Not only am I not ashamed, I'd bet dollars against donuts if you can find me a professor who works more than 20 hrs/wk and isn't well-off.

 

[Trotsky]

Byu kicked a star off their bball team bc of premarital sex....

Despite having jim mcmahon as their qb 20 years prior

I wasn't aware Jim McMahon went there lol. And I'm aware of that basketball incident, but that's entirely code of conduct and non-academic. You can still provide a quality education while proscribing your students from banging each other.

 

[Trotsky]

That you said "proper social development" kind of closes the case. "Passionionate academics" can all suck my dick. Not only am I not ashamed, I'd bet dollars against donuts if you can find me a professor who works more than 20 hrs/wk and isn't well-off.

So you're just an idiot who gets scared by learning. Gotcha.

 

[GriftyMcGrift]

Oral Roberts is the school that I always wondered about

 

[ski lo]

This is not only incredibly stupid, but also incredibly toxic to proper social development. The idea that hundreds of thousands of departments are all separately ran by would-be cult leaders and not passionate academics and professional administrators is also hilariously naive/delusional.

You should be ashamed.

I don't doubt the passion or even the the qualifications of most of the professors in the liberal arts/social sciences majors, but to pretend as if they are somehow above letting their own personal beliefs and agendas influence their students is just being out of touch with reality imo

 

[Lead]

I think Liberty might be more lax than other religious colleges. There are far more stricter ones. Liberty is just the largest. Calling it a cult would depend on if you think any religious affiliated organization counts as a cult.

I think theres a stronger case Chic-fil-a is a cult.

 

[PlayswellwithLawnDarts]

Its a great day at chick fila

 

[GriftyMcGrift]

Its a great day at chick fila

my pleasure!

 

[Trotsky]

I don't doubt the passion or even the the qualifications of most of the professors in the liberal arts/social sciences majors, but to pretend as if they are somehow above letting their own personal beliefs and agendas influence their students is just being out of touch with reality imo

That's not the point. No one is saying that any professor, in most any discipline, can completely insulate their teaching from their beliefs.

The point is that entire disciplines and entire departments are driven by some concerted effort toward propaganda. A 20-person department, with 20 different personal belief systems, is not a very useful tool in indoctrination.

I mean, what areas of academia really even present enough of wiggle room for "indoctrination," if those 20-person departments were able to synchronize their propagandizing? Political science? Sociology? What else? There's only so much you can skew.

 

[ski lo]

That's not the point. No one is saying that any professor, in most any discipline, can completely insulate their teaching from their beliefs.

The point is that entire disciplines and entire departments are driven by some concerted effort toward propaganda. A 20-person department, with 20 different personal belief systems, is not a very useful tool in indoctrination.

I mean, what areas of academia really even present enough of wiggle room for "indoctrination," if those 20-person departments were able to synchronize their propagandizing? Political science? Sociology? What else? There's only so much you can skew.

I see your point and would agree that there probably isn't a coordinated effort between teachers and administrators from the top down in certain departments to "indoctrinate" students.

I think the problem I have is many of these university majors have become so politicized by nature (I would add History, Womens/AA/Latino etc. Studies in addition to Poli Sci and Sociology) which can lead to professors having a major influence on young impressionable students view of society.

 

[44nutman]

I was in Lynchburg for 4 summers from age 18 to 22. Used to go canoeing down the James River, with my cousins and stayed at a buddy of my dads house.
Lynchburg is made up of Liberty University and some small women's college. One of my cousins which was similar in age, we had fake ID's(until I was 21) and would go out partying at night.
We called it Synchburg because of the crazy amount of chicks we picked up there. It was nuts.

 

[jeffk]

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[Final Rehab]

It’s religion. Of course it’s a cult.

 

[nostradumbass]

So you're just an idiot who gets scared by learning. Gotcha.

Oh yeah, terrified. Why bother looking into anything when professors give political opinions?

 

[Fluffernutter]

Is it accredited?

Do graduates get job offers?

Looks like any other university that caters to a particular demographic.

 

[stephen90]

Don't they sponsor bad Christian films like God's not dead?

 

[wonderbread]

The best

 

[HunterSdVa29]

I wasn't aware Jim McMahon went there lol. And I'm aware of that basketball incident, but that's entirely code of conduct and non-academic. You can still provide a quality education while proscribing your students from banging each other.

Fair enough
As per liberty they are Regionally Accredited and non profit, unlike some of the other more questionable schools (i.e. diploma mills that are secular, or religious based accreditation). That was my main pt about academic standards at least