Is DDP the latest delusional champ?

[Pancake Sprawl]

they did enough to keep ddp away from grappling exchanges

on the flip side, ddp's significant strikes often landed when strickland was avoiding those power shots. They werent often flush. It's nice that DDP has an iron will to win, an unwaivering chin, and double lung, however, he did get tagged enough to keep him outside of a slugfest and grappling distance for most of the fight.

i guess we agree to disagree because to me Strickland's defensive shell and constant movement backwards is what caused DDP not to get inside, not the jabs. most Strickland's jabs landed during DDP resetting after a blitz, if the jabs were deterring him he'd blitz less OR get rocked when he blitzed because Strickland would jab when he comes forward but Strickland didn't do that because DDP was always moving his head when he attacked. the only time DDP was there to be jabbed was before and after his blitz.

 

[chardog]

i guess we agree to disagree because to me Strickland's defensive shell and constant movement backwards is what caused DDP not to get inside, not the jabs. most Strickland's jabs landed during DDP resetting after a blitz, if the jabs were deterring him he'd blitz less OR get rocked when he blitzed because Strickland would jab when he comes forward but Strickland didn't do that because DDP was always moving his head when he attacked. the only time DDP was there to be jabbed was before and after his blitz.

for the sake of argument, lets say strickland won 1, 5, DDP 2, 4. Round 3, the jabs were effective enough to keep DDP off of the grappling offense. Many of them were effective enough to snap ddp's head back. Neither men were rocked, and considering that DDP threw mostly power shots, you'd think that strickland would have folded, but the fact that he was rolling with all of the shots, the powershots should at minimum be downgraded to jab level. Strickland fought a defensive fight, the ddp power is real, however the fact that neither sean nor ddp were hurt, should go apply both ways. DDP walking into a straight jab vs strickland rolling with an overhand right. Why should one be scored more in favor of the other?

Considering that both men have relatively tough skin, resistant to bruising based on past fights, you've never really seen DDP as damaged as he was until this fight, because he ate a lot of knuckles.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

for the sake of argument, lets say strickland won 1, 5, DDP 2, 4. Round 3, the jabs were effective enough to keep DDP off of the grappling offense. Many of them were effective enough to snap ddp's head back. Neither men were rocked, and considering that DDP threw mostly power shots, you'd think that strickland would have folded, but the fact that he was rolling with all of the shots, the powershots should at minimum be downgraded to jab level. Strickland fought a defensive fight, the ddp power is real, however the fact that neither sean nor ddp were hurt, should go apply both ways. DDP walking into a straight jab vs strickland rolling with an overhand right. Why should one be scored more in favor of the other?

Considering that both men have relatively tough skin, resistant to bruising based on past fights, you've never really seen DDP as damaged as he was until this fight, because he ate a lot of knuckles.

how did the jabs stop him from grappling though? i think the jabs are just jabs. they scored and that's it. i don't think they stopped DDP from doing anything. i'll say this, i was backing DDP and i wouldn't have been upset if they gave the fight to Strickland. it does go both ways, the problem is the majority of people arguing that Strickland won is that they act like DDP has all the damage. they don't acknowledge the cuts on Strickland's face and if they do they say it's from the headbutt. they say he shadowboxed the entire fight, they say Strickland did "massive damage". it's hard to come to an agreement when the other person is deluded.

also, i'm not talking about you, just in general of what the Strickland defenders have been arguing lately.

 

[Magrabie1988]

it was a very close fight , i had it a draw(kinda didn't score every round,was just watching to get entertained ), slight advantage ddp. sean didn't perform that well imo, maybe it was because of ddp , maybe some other factor , who knows? ddp should fight the next guy in line , sean should fight khamzat or the winner of bobby knuckles vs costa

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

i thought it was clear that DDP won rds. he definitely won rd 4. the only rd that was clear for Sean was rd 1.

I thought Strickland won rd 4 but would need to watch again, definitely won 1 and 5

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Well, he's kind of in a shitty position as far as exciting fights. The Adesanya fight is definitely a big one though but that one will catch flack for giving Adesanya an immediate titleshot after a loss and layoff. Giving Sean another one right now is unnecessary, and then you got a boring matchup like Cannonier.

I mean, they're holding up the HW division for Stipe to comeback after his last fight when the Berlin Wall crumpled like his chin, so I don't think the UFC cares any more about presumptive meritocratic issues we may raise. Adesanya is probably going to be next for DDP, I imagine that they pressure DDP to take the fight for 300 because they think Adesanya is their biggest PPV draw outside of Conor.
Also, Stickland 1, 2, 5.

 

[fortheo]

I think you are missing the fact that sean was wobbled zero times, just like the fact that DDP took a lot more shots and walked through sean's hardest shots. Sean landed more significant strikes in all but one round.

You don't need to wobble or rock a fighter to be landing the harder shots. If the judges thought dricus's shots were even slightly more powerful, then that was reason enough to edge the close rounds to him. Those judges probably thought dricus's body kicks, hooks and straights were heavier than Sean's jabs. Not to mention they were under a rule set where takedowns score points and dricus got 6.

 

[mister piscadinha]

this fight was very close, a rematch was warranted

 

[fortheo]

how did the jabs stop him from grappling though? i think the jabs are just jabs. they scored and that's it. i don't think they stopped DDP from doing anything. i'll say this, i was backing DDP and i wouldn't have been upset if they gave the fight to Strickland. it does go both ways, the problem is the majority of people arguing that Strickland won is that they act like DDP has all the damage. they don't acknowledge the cuts on Strickland's face and if they do they say it's from the headbutt. they say he shadowboxed the entire fight, they say Strickland did "massive damage". it's hard to come to an agreement when the other person is deluded.

also, i'm not talking about you, just in general of what the Strickland defenders have been arguing lately.

My problem with it all is that to me, the most powerful strikes in that entire fight were Dricus's body kicks, and it seemingly goes unnoticed just because body damage isn't something as easily seen. The impact of dricus's kicks in general was just heavier than anything Strickland threw. And contrary to popular opinion, a decent amount of leg kicks also got through for dricus, and they too were more powerful than anything sean was throwing.

I don't need knock downs or rocked fighters in order to tell that someone is landing heavier than the other.

 

[maximus__]

I mean it was a close fight that could have gone either way, but thinking he won 4 and 5? I don't know anyone, but on the internet who gave him 5.

And then, to make matters worse, after giving Sean some compliments and saying again how close it was, he doesn't even mention him when asked about who's next.

Love Sean or hate him, loved that fight or hated it, he deserves that rematch.

fwiw

Shertardia in 3, 2, 1...

I am so sick of every champion needing to be beaten 2x every single time. I was happy we got Sean and DDP with no rematch for Izzy. Sean is 3-3 against ranked guys in the MW top 15. Go get some more wins and come back and beat DDP. Hell do Izzy vs Sean 2 or Sean Vs Cannonier 2. Driscus can fight the othr. Izzy will look weak though by dodging Sean.

 

[Harlekin]

My problem with it all is that to me, the most powerful strikes in that entire fight were Dricus's body kicks, and it seemingly goes unnoticed just because body damage isn't something as easily seen. The impact of dricus's kicks in general was just heavier than anything Strickland threw. And contrary to popular opinion, a decent amount of leg kicks also got through for dricus, and they too were more powerful than anything sean was throwing.

So your argument is, that DDP'S 50 kicks, in reality more like 40, weigh more than 173 of Strickland's attacks.
Interesting point.
And that body damage can't be seen on Stricklands snowflake bright skin?
Also interesting point.
You do know that the point of the philly shell is also to have 2 arms pretty low in order to cover the body?


Well I guess you don't get a Plutonium belt by actually training mma.

 

[orca]

hes not delusional 70 -80 percent of mma websites got ddp
even dc and the others thought ddp won

even stricklands cornermen wasnt happy about stricklands performance

i get it your a fanboy
everytime its a split decision fanboys try to explain weird things
that aint normal