Is casein protein just as important as whey?

The meathead that i claim as a workout partner swears by it at bed time. He’s probably coating his stomach for Deep Eddys Vodka and Redbull full disclosure.
Maybe ask Dr Mike? Idk
I think I heard Piana talking about pounding some before bedtime. It sounds like a recipe to wake up in the middle of the night with a wicked shit to me.
 
All those guys are on roids they don’t apply to the sound advice I gave however I’ll put you in this group you can laugh at this .


At this point everyone is just trying to be right and doesn't care about the topic.

So what was your advice ?
 
Lol the amount of flaming over poor casein

It's very simple. Being on a calorie deficit = catabolic state. Overnight fast = catabolic state. There's no store of amino acids like there are for fats and carbohydrates. Your amino acid stockpile is your muscles, that's the reserve. So if you're cutting weight, you're already prone to breaking down your muscle so you want to make sure to eat some sort of dairy-derived protein before bed so it takes the amino acids from that. Cottage cheese, Icelandic yogurt, Greek yogurt, proteinated milk like fairlite or w/e it's called, etc. RIP lactose intolerant sherbros, sucks to suck. If you're maintaining or bulking it's not that important, I think you can mostly ignore it.
 
I understand that it has a slower absorption rate but would you say that casein is something that everybody should have, similar to whey or not as important?
Why shouldn't you take whey protein?


Consumption of whey protein can lead to depletion of good bacteria in your gut and can increase bad bacteria which may cause stomach pain, constipation and gas, once you start depleting good bacteria you could find a host of other issues. The muscles do not utilize most of the recruited muscles Whey in protein synthesis bc it gets rid of any unrecognized or unwanted stuff , Cassein proteins actually heal and rebuild the existing tissues it recycles existing proteins in the blood .

Bloating is a huge problem with Whey it’s why I haven’t taking it in like 30 years it’s an uneccessary inconvenience at least for me , it might help ppl on steroids more just bc anabolics are already speeding recovery up ? I’ve already posted links on here .
Liquid form



Drinking whey protein in liquid form may result in less protein absorption because liquids pass through the digestive tract too quickly so it’s not even factual if you are getting more protein from Whey per serving ? This is usually left out of studies conducted which are usually altered to sell a product.

Either way I know what I’m talking about that’s the good things about forums advice is free one could either take it or disregard it . If one can or wishes to take both ( which I said ) is fine but Casein actually promotes the body to grow more , it makes it easier for the several reasons I already posted on here .
 
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And call me crazy but I don’t see anywhere near these potential downsides to Casein either ?

whey protein powder can interfere with nutrient absorption in some cases.

How whey protein can interfere with nutrient absorption
  • Slows gastric emptying
    Whey protein can slow the rate at which food leaves the stomach, which can reduce the absorption of nutrients.

  • Upset stomach
    Whey protein can cause an upset stomach, which can make it harder to absorb nutrients.

  • Dehydration
    Not drinking enough water while taking whey protein can make it harder to digest and absorb nutrients.
Other potential effects of whey protein
  • Thyroid function: Whey protein can interfere with the absorption of oral L-thyroxine, which can affect thyroid function.

  • Liver and kidney damage: Whey protein may be linked to liver and kidney damage.

  • Gut microbiota: Whey protein can alter gut microbiota.

  • Acne: Whey protein may increase acne.

  • Bone mass: Whey protein may impact bone mass.

  • Emotional and behavioral changes: Whey protein may cause emotional and behavioral changes.

This link right here shows why Cassein is needed more then Whey .


( The muscle-building effects of protein supplementation at each meal seem to be additive. In one study we found that the consumption of ample amounts of protein (60g whey) before overnight sleep did not alter the muscle protein synthetic response to a high-protein breakfast the following morning.)
 
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I would call this being a "Google scientist"
 
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