Is Canadian MMA completely dead?!

Testament to just how lucky we were to have a phenom like Harold. Underappreciated in his day. Living legend to those in the know.

The hero we didn't deserve.

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Unfortunately he is literally a white supremacist with biker ties who went to jail for 5 years in 2009.

 
legit badass

September 9th of every year. I make a pilgrimage to Fallsview Casino in Ontario to drink heavily, snort some cocaine and cause a scene in honour of Harold's defining win over Royce Gracie on this night in 1994, and as a nod to his final hoorah as he smashed his vehicle into the lobby of a Canadian landmark.
 
Canadians would do alright if it wasn't for the fact they're too busy eating maple syrup. These glucose spikes makes them feel lethargic.
 
And just because there is a card coming here doesn't prove shit u jackass there is literally only one Canadian on the entire main card. Lmfao
 
Holy shit you guys I am Canadian it was a joke. But as long as Turdeau is the face of Canada, we look like liberal sissies to everyone outside Canada ,that's just the way it is. I'm from Alberta btw and he is pretty hated where I'm from . Canada gets shit cards loaded with WMMA.
 
Canada was always at a slight disadvantage in terms of developing MMA fighters.

Wrestling is not a big deal here. Obviously it exists but it's an actual major college sport in the US (and a sport that many kids actually start early on) whereas in Canada, many of the university teams don't even provide scholarships for wrestlers. It's basically just a club for some athletic students.

And that's only comparing us to the US. Think of how common combat sports are in many other areas of the world. Sambo, judo, boxing, karate, muay thai, BJJ... these are niche interests in Canada that people don't typically start until they're older but in other countries, these are really engrained in the culture and kids could develop a lifelong dedication to the sport after being introduced at a young age.

Canada greatly favors team sports like hockey, basketball, baseball, volleyball, soccer, etc so not a huge amount of the population is going to get exposed to sports that would actually translate well into a career in MMA. It obviously does happen but it's not like Canada was ever (or will ever) be one of the foremost countries for combat sports.

There's also the problem that Canada only has a handful of major cities and most of them are pretty far apart so there really isn't a network or a league to compete in with any regularity. Almost every town in the country has a place to play hockey so there are a lot of regional leagues of all skill levels but every MMA fighter I know has to travel pretty far (and often go to the US) to get fights. This travel is damn expensive too considering you aren't paid peanuts in MMA so this is a barrier for many people.

Factor in the insane cost of living in Canada and the completely unreliable source of income that is a career in MMA, I don't find it at all surprising that Canada isn't a major player in this sport. The USA has fallen off a lot as well... $8K to show as a fighter on the prelims in the biggest organization in the world isn't really going to be as attractive to someone living in North America as it is for someone living in a developing country.

I find it very funny that people just completely ignore this fact and fall for the UFC's marketing tricks that "they have the best fighters in the world" when the asterix beside it should read *who are willing to fight for the pittance we pay them.

When the UFC HW roster only has 30 fighters on it and someone in the top 10 is on a 5 fight losing streak, it does make you wonder where all of the big athletic guys are. Gee... maybe they're playing football where even being a bench warmer would pay you more than being a champion in the UFC lol

You can't recruit top tier talent without providing attractive compensation (or at least not stopping fighters from getting sponsorships FFS) but sure... let's all just ignore this and just assume 90% of the best fighters are suddenly only coming from developing countries after the Reebok deal. "The sport has evolved" <lmao>

TL/DR: Combat sports are not big in Canada. A lack of Canadian talent is not surprising when none of the foundational skills are widely taught and a career in MMA is not really lucrative enough to lure many potential fighters in when many can barely afford to eat/own a car in this country as it is.

10-15 years ago the canucks had

GSP
Rory
Kang
TJ Grant
Hominick
Mein
Bocek
Alessio
Theodoreau RIP
Hill
Cote
JMac
Stout
Jabouin
Doerkensen
OAM
Makdessi
Jimmo

That is damn good talent. First 5 were top contenders in their division and reached top 5 in their weight class. Cote fought for title. Bunch others were ranked or just solid and a tough out. An Makdessi is ancient now and just got robbed against Mullarkey last year.

Why the dropoff? There aren't any good legit canucks anymore. Olivier Aubin Mercier was looking real good then retired. Dunno others some will have a good win then shit the bad and get rekt. They had a Toronto card last year and Canadian men went 0-6 including Mike Mallot who many said was best Canadian prospect got exposed and derailed by ancient Neil Magny. There was a chick on Contenders who was a HOOGE -2500 favorite and got starched in a minute by a womanlet.

We've never seen a nation in MMA fall off a cliff talent wise like this. Any time there is a canuck on a card you have to bet their opponent./
 
10-15 years ago the canucks had

GSP
Rory
Kang
TJ Grant
Hominick
Mein
Bocek
Alessio
Theodoreau RIP
Hill
Cote
JMac
Stout
Jabouin
Doerkensen
OAM
Makdessi
Jimmo

That is damn good talent. First 5 were top contenders in their division and reached top 5 in their weight class. Cote fought for title. Bunch others were ranked or just solid and a tough out. An Makdessi is ancient now and just got robbed against Mullarkey last year.

Why the dropoff? There aren't any good legit canucks anymore. Olivier Aubin Mercier was looking real good then retired. Dunno others some will have a good win then shit the bad and get rekt. They had a Toronto card last year and Canadian men went 0-6 including Mike Mallot who many said was best Canadian prospect got exposed and derailed by ancient Neil Magny. There was a chick on Contenders who was a HOOGE -2500 favorite and got starched in a minute by a womanlet.

We've never seen a nation in MMA fall off a cliff talent wise like this. Any time there is a canuck on a card you have to bet their opponent./
Fuckin excellent post . Canada is pussified now. Makes me sad but it is what it is.
 
GSP set the bar pretty high

Now, the rest are crap for the most part
 
I think GSP is here in Hamilton right now, actually. Was supposed to be doing some sort of talk seminar or tedtalk type thing.
 
Justin Trudeau is just the MP for the Papineau riding in Montreal. 23000 people voted for him.


If you are calling everyone who voted Liberal in the last election a pussy that's a little different. In 2021 they got 5.5 million votes (which was actually less than the Conservatives 5.7 million, but that's what you get with an archaic electoral system).

Either way, the population of Canada is almost 40 million. Nowhere near a majority support Trudeau (or any politician).


TLDR The majority of Canadians are not pussies.
The Prancing Prince of Papineau is the funniest Trudeau nickname I ever heard. <lol>
 
India has a terrible athletic culture and zero notable fighters...which is to say Canada.
 
It’s a well known fact that our Canadian brothers can’t fight… that’s what they have US for.


<JonesLaugh>
 
Does Christian Lee kind of count? He's good.

I think they fell off without a decent promotion to build talent. They used to have some great ones in MFC and TKO.
 
Canada is full of people who voted for
that fuckin twerp Trudeau so I'm not surprised.
(I wasn't one of them )
Even if Trudeau never won it doesn't change that Canadians just suck at MMA apart from GSP.
 
Even if Trudeau never won it doesn't change that Canadians just suck at MMA apart from GSP.
I wouldn't say suck . Just not as good as we should be with he size of country we have. I've had the opportunity to train and spar with really talented guys it's just that the pool is pretty shallow. I mean do we suck compared to the U.S , Brazil and Russia? Ya.... but compared to the entire world? Nah. It's not like the Brits and Aussies are churning out heaps of great fighters either. But they get exposure just the same. Anyways I know a couple young guys here in Edmonton on the come up , hopefully they make their mark in the next couple years or so. Cheers!
 
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