International Iran unveils new 1300km+ Low-Altitude Cruise Missile

[Happy Man]

Perhaps Intel is wrong about the Bulgarian bombing, but Hezbollah also denied TWA847 hijacking so honesty isn't exactly their strongpoint.

They have officially claimed responsibility for terror attacks in the past so it's not like they're just misunderstood freedom fighters.

Yes they have. I their beginning as their nation was occupied they thought they had to strike isreal anywhere they could. Since 1994ish they have taken a tack that "terror" won't be in their gameplan. And it seems they've stuck to it.

They just resist isreal and Saudi Arabia all they can.

 

[Sauron]

. Iran: Should have been bombed by the Israelis about 7 years ago. The nuclear sites. Iran is all 'bark' and no 'bite', just like North Korea.

If the Israeli's could have attacked Iran they would have. They couldn't because they lacked the capability. But they're great at bombing those who can't defend themselves or mired in civil war. That we can give them credit for.

 

[Sauron]

Never heard of Hezbollah? Bahrain and Bulgaria would disagree as well.

As was already said: Bulgaria wasn't confirmed. Bahrain is a repressive monarchy that specialises in crushing democratic protests of its shia minority. They blame Iran for anything and everything.

 

[Communion]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ews-israel-us-missile-iranian-revolution-1979

US was not justified in Vietnam
US not justified in Libya
US not justified in iraq
US not justified in Ukraine or really syria

Both the right wing and true left in the west agree on that. But the US is justified against north korea, and iran. And would also be justified against pakistan and the gulf states obviously.


Iran may very well look to kick start something against American targets.

Gratuitous disclaimer: I am very patriotic to American and western ideals. I do not think we should get rid of western ideas of freedom and equality of opportunity. The west is best....

...that being said, I work with a bunch of Iranians on a daily basis (healthcare industry) and they are living in daily terror that their loved ones back home are going to be bombed into oblivion by the US and/or Israel.

The funny part is, Iran is Shi'a Islam, which is far more mild and progressive than the Sunni/Wahabi shit that's taken over Islam. You'd think Iran would be our natural ally as we share a lot of the same ideas but Iran still has a hard on for Israel, and want them out of the region. Their reasons for this are pretty solid tbh.

The only reason Iran and the US are at each other's throats is because Israel is playing one against the other. And Israel is always going to get support in the US because of the baptists/zionists dominate American politics.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

As was already said: Bulgaria wasn't confirmed. Bahrain is a repressive monarchy that specialises in crushing democratic protests of its shia minority. They blame Iran for anything and everything.

Not sure if you've noticed, but every mid-east country crushes prorests.

 

[Ophydian]

Some Saudi prince stubbing his toe in the morning affects our oil prices. Speculation is what drives 99% of prices.

Not that much anymore. You could have war in the gulf with little relative effect on oil prices. Their are some many forces on oil prices today that weren’t there a decade ago. Alternative energies, USA shale production have weakened OPECs Power.

 

[Ophydian]

Gratuitous disclaimer: I am very patriotic to American and western ideals. I do not think we should get rid of western ideas of freedom and equality of opportunity. The west is best....

...that being said, I work with a bunch of Iranians on a daily basis (healthcare industry) and they are living in daily terror that their loved ones back home are going to be bombed into oblivion by the US and/or Israel.

The funny part is, Iran is Shi'a Islam, which is far more mild and progressive than the Sunni/Wahabi shit that's taken over Islam. You'd think Iran would be our natural ally as we share a lot of the same ideas but Iran still has a hard on for Israel, and want them out of the region. Their reasons for this are pretty solid tbh.

The only reason Iran and the US are at each other's throats is because Israel is playing one against the other. And Israel is always going to get support in the US because of the baptists/zionists dominate American politics.

I think also the US installing its own ruler back in the 60s-70s soured relationships and created distrust amoung both countries.

 

[Seaside]

Yes they have. I their beginning as their nation was occupied they thought they had to strike isreal anywhere they could. Since 1994ish they have taken a tack that "terror" won't be in their gameplan. And it seems they've stuck to it.

They just resist isreal and Saudi Arabia all they can.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organizstion. In any next war Israel would be 100% justified in expelling people and annexing southern lebanon. And a greater area around the 1/3 or more of the golan heights that is on the syrian side.

Israel has tens of thousands of jihadis amassing on its border and rockets and missiles aimed at it. God willing the US and allies will help Israel destroy the evil around them.

Gratuitous disclaimer: I am very patriotic to American and western ideals. I do not think we should get rid of western ideas of freedom and equality of opportunity. The west is best....

...that being said, I work with a bunch of Iranians on a daily basis (healthcare industry) and they are living in daily terror that their loved ones back home are going to be bombed into oblivion by the US and/or Israel.

The funny part is, Iran is Shi'a Islam, which is far more mild and progressive than the Sunni/Wahabi shit that's taken over Islam. You'd think Iran would be our natural ally as we share a lot of the same ideas but Iran still has a hard on for Israel, and want them out of the region. Their reasons for this are pretty solid tbh.

The only reason Iran and the US are at each other's throats is because Israel is playing one against the other. And Israel is always going to get support in the US because of the baptists/zionists dominate American politics.

I know all about islam and different branches within sunni. I agree shiite is not a problem as an ideology. But Irans leadees and hezbollah are and just happen to be shiite.

 

[Sauron]

Not sure if you've noticed, but every mid-east country crushes prorests.

i'm not sure what prorests are, but they sound fun.

 

[Sauron]

Hezbollah is a terrorist organizstion. In any next war Israel would be 100% justified in expelling people and annexing southern lebanon. And a greater area around the 1/3 or more of the golan heights that is on the syrian side.

Isn't that what created Hezbollah in the first place. Israel did already think it was fully justified occupying south lebanon. They got their asses kicked and had to run away.

Israel has tens of thousands of jihadis amassing on its border and rockets and missiles aimed at it. God willing the US and allies will help Israel destroy the evil around them.

Perhaps it should stop assisting them.

 

[Seaside]

If the Israeli's could have attacked Iran they would have. They couldn't because they lacked the capability. But they're great at bombing those who can't defend themselves or mired in civil war. That we can give them credit for.

Yeah im surprised. My money is on them doing it this year or next. And they would be justified. With Trump in office US is for sure to help and the military complex can use it as an excuse .

 

[Seaside]

Isn't that what created Hezbollah in the first place. Israel did already think it was fully justified occupying south lebanon. They got their asses kicked and had to run away.



Perhaps it should stop assisting them.

Sunni arabs (palestinians) invaded and destroyed lebanon. Hezbollah was created to protect shiites and expel sunni arabs led by arafat coalition. Shiite hezbollah also offerred the maronite christians support and protection. Many christians in the 80s in lebanon supported Israel. But because Hezbollah growing iranian and cleric shiite ties. Hezbollah began to push against ANY christian supporting Israel. Eventually Hezbollah won those lebanese christians lver since they could offer more. Israel wasnt going to make them all citizens those christians.

Lebanon was intended to be a christian state. The same way a jewish state should of been what is now Israel and west bank. But muslims (largely sunni muslims) were against that.

 

[JonesBones]

psht, OTHER peoples' oil.

Oil is cheap as shit and the US is the largest producer on Earth now. This is why the Saudis are investing in green energy. They know oil is dying.

 

[Communion]

Hezbollah is a terrorist organizstion. In any next war Israel would be 100% justified in expelling people and annexing southern lebanon. And a greater area around the 1/3 or more of the golan heights that is on the syrian side.

Calvanist/zionist detected.

Israel has tens of thousands of jihadis amassing on its border and rockets and missiles aimed at it. God willing the US and allies will help Israel destroy the evil around them.

If God were to "destroy the evil" he'd take out that entire region, Jews and all. Hate to tell you, but he'd also take out 99% of the ROTW.

I know all about islam and different branches within sunni. I agree shiite is not a problem as an ideology. But Irans leadees and hezbollah are and just happen to be shiite.

The way you blindly accept Israel's validity and condemn anyone that disagrees makes me think your view of any branch of Islam is....tilted. Israel should have never been established in 1948. The first atrocity of many by the UN. And to make a bad idea worse, they then do all they can to weaken the surrounding Arab countries full of (mostly) innocent people.

 

[Phr3121]

If the Israeli's could have attacked Iran they would have. They couldn't because they lacked the capability.

Oh, the Israelis had the capability to strike Iranian nuclear targets in 2011. There were other reasons why they didn't.

Also:
. Israeli airstrikes in Iraqi nuclear sites, 1981. No retaliation from Iraq.
. Israeli airstrikes in Syrian nuclear sites, 2007. No retaliation from Syria.

...here is one of the plans for a possible airstrike in Iran:

 

[Makani]

I don't think anyone would argue that the US would fuck up the Iranian Army. Then what? What could go wrong?

 

[Phr3121]

I don't think anyone would argue that the US would fuck up the Iranian Army. Then what? What could go wrong?

The Russians have sided with Iran, so, we would be fighting the Russians.

 

[Sauron]

Oh, the Israelis had the capability to strike Iranian nuclear targets in 2011. There were other reasons why they didn't.

Bullshit. They couldn't do it, which is why they kept trying to pressurise or psych out the US into doing it. They knew they couldn't do it and so they didn't.

Just posting up a picture of a 1000 + miles plus mission across multiple hostile states doesn't prove anything. It just means that lines can be drawn on a map. I could take apart each route as well. Turkey is hostile to Israel. Russia would give advance notice to Iran. Iraq is an ally of Iran. While Saudi is no friend of Iran, Bushehr is a functioning civilian reactor, and any fallout would potentially blow across the persian gulf back on saudi arabia. Israel lacks strategic bombers and refueling capacity.

 

[Thurisaz]

I have quite a bit of trouble understanding what exactly justifies aggression half a globe away from home turf. It's not like US troops belong in the Middle East.

If you want a war, have one to secure your border.

 

[Phr3121]

Just posting up a picture of a 1000 + miles plus mission across multiple hostile states doesn't prove anything. It just means that lines can be drawn on a map. I could take apart each route as well. Turkey is hostile to Israel. Russia would give advance notice to Iran. Iraq is an ally of Iran. While Saudi is no friend of Iran, Bushehr is a functioning civilian reactor, and any fallout would potentially blow across the persian gulf back on saudi arabia. Israel lacks strategic bombers and refueling capacity.

Well, yeah, do you think Israel will put classified mission information on the web? Please. Those are theoretical strikes on Iran. Turkey is hostile to Israel, no shit. So was Iraq and Syria and they still got bombed. How would Russia give advance notice to Iran? How would Russia know? Why didn't Russia give advance notice to Syria? Because they did not know. Iraq is an ally of Iran? They fought each other for 8 years. They hate each other. Israel would not do these missions with bombers, they would use fighter jets as they have always done. Jets are smaller, faster, and don't show up on radar depending on altitude. The Israelis have had air-to-air refueling capabilities since the 1960s. The Israelis have already admitted to having a plan in place to bomb Iran if and when the time comes. Do a little homework...