International Iran unveils new 1300km+ Low-Altitude Cruise Missile

[Cuauhtemoc]

LOL, I remember when this was a joke. 2017 called.

The North Koreans have nukes, and the Iranians openly fumed after Israel preemptively destroyed their bunkers containing their secret nuclear weapons facility.

How stupidly out of touch does one have to be to post this mockingly in 2019? History answered.

Netanyahu was right. Those who scoffed at this are the dunces in the room.

When?

 

[Madmick]

When?

Think that was 2012 or before. A Wikileaks leak even confirmed it when they hacked a Texas outfit that feeds strategy to our DoD.

 

[Sauron]

Deluded?
Why, of course they did.

Yes.

The Israeli's are hardly impartial. I'm not sure why anyone would treat their word as gospel when it comes to Iran. They've been desperately trying to persuade the US to bomb Iran for decades.

I'd take the IAEA's judgement over there's any day of the week. 11 straight times they've said Iran is in compliance with the JCPOA.

Other than the Israeli's and the loony toon warhawks in the Trump administration, does anyone put any value on the 'treasure trove' of bullshit that they're trying to present as some sort of causus belli.

 

[Phr3121]

Well clearly you went there with no brains and came back with even less.

Thanks. Typical liberal reply from no sense individuals.

They are Iran's ally because the US removed Saddam who was part of the ruling sunni minority, and replaced him with the shia majority. The very same shia minority who share religious kinship with Iran, and whose leadership nearly all lived in exile in Iran during that same 8 year war.

Yeah, we covered the Saddam issue enough times, I get that. As for the rest, you really think that will make Iraq an ally of Iran? Yeah, the Soviets were allied with the Germans prior to WWII. Stalin later got stabbed in the back by Hitler when Germany invaded the Soviet Union. I don't think you read, or understood, what I posted regarding Persians and Arabs. 2,500 years of hate changing overnight - just like that...

If you're genuinely interested in educating yourself I can provide more information.

No thanks. The information you are going to provide is clearly going to be biased, like your opinion. I prefer a neutral source. You clearly have your own agenda on this topic. That's fine. We clearly have a difference of opinion.

 

[Phr3121]

...and the Iranians openly fumed after Israel preemptively destroyed their bunkers containing their secret nuclear weapons facility.

Bullshit. They couldn't do it, which is why they kept trying to pressurise or psych out the US into doing it. They knew they couldn't do it and so they didn't.

Well, there it is @Sauron, the Israelis did it in Iran.

@Madmick, you must be referring to an article similar to this one:

"Wikileaks: Israel destroyed Iran’s nuclear program last year"
Story: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israe...already-last-year-leaked-intelligence-claims/

"Millions of emails by analysts at US intelligence company Stratfor are published, with claims that Israelis and Kurds covertly attacked Iran - 2011. The Iranian heavy water reactor at Arak."

Not sure this has been proven but certainly something the Israelis would not doubt be capable of doing.

 

[tramendous]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ews-israel-us-missile-iranian-revolution-1979

US was not justified in Vietnam
US not justified in Libya
US not justified in iraq
US not justified in Ukraine or really syria

Both the right wing and true left in the west agree on that. But the US is justified against north korea, and iran. And would also be justified against pakistan and the gulf states obviously.


Iran may very well look to kick start something against American targets.


Edit: thank you mod for Title change to more correct title.

No the US is not justified. Just like those other 4 wars you mentioned. You'll just add iran to the list when they go after another country afterwards. "But this time its different!"

 

[tramendous]

Gratuitous disclaimer: I am very patriotic to American and western ideals. I do not think we should get rid of western ideas of freedom and equality of opportunity. The west is best....

...that being said, I work with a bunch of Iranians on a daily basis (healthcare industry) and they are living in daily terror that their loved ones back home are going to be bombed into oblivion by the US and/or Israel.

The funny part is, Iran is Shi'a Islam, which is far more mild and progressive than the Sunni/Wahabi shit that's taken over Islam. You'd think Iran would be our natural ally as we share a lot of the same ideas but Iran still has a hard on for Israel, and want them out of the region. Their reasons for this are pretty solid tbh.

The only reason Iran and the US are at each other's throats is because Israel is playing one against the other. And Israel is always going to get support in the US because of the baptists/zionists dominate American politics.

Sunni islam is in fact just as mild as shia islam if you take away salafi/wahabi ideology which is only politically dominant at the moment but not socially. Calling someone a wahabi is like an insult in many places. Wahabis have taken a huge hit to their legitimacy and reputation over the last 2 decades

 

[tramendous]

If the US hadn´t fucked Iran since the 70s they would have been the best possible ally for the US in the ME. Certainly much better than the sunni wahhabist scum in SA.
But the US are so cucked by SA they didn´t even touch them for 9/11

But then they'd be a regional competitor. Its why the US always supports nation sabotaging dictatorships in Egypt.

 

[Sauron]

Well, there it is @Sauron, the Israelis did it in Iran.

This is nonsense.

 

[Sauron]

Yeah, we covered the Saddam issue enough times, I get that. As for the rest, you really think that will make Iraq an ally of Iran?

Yes, because they are allies now. This is a fact.

Iraq is now ruled predominantly by the shia because it's a shia majority country. The shia are close to Iran.

 

[Blowing Dixie]

As long as the Iranians don't do anything with the weapons, what's the problem? I honestly don't see how you can be a supporter of the 2nd amendment while at the same time not allow other countries to have sufficient armament. I find that to be hypocritical.
Don't get me wrong though; if they do attack someone they should be nuked back to the stone age.

 

[lfd0311]

Cuz it is. Isreal/America had saddam attack Iran right after their revolution. They don't ever forget that.

Yeah, because that's totally when the conflict started, right?

 

[Rholk]

I said last year that Iran would be the next country that "needs freedom" and was laughed at.

You are still beeing laughed at

 

[Seaside]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...s-allies-urging-action-iran-venezuela-n972396


US pressure on Iran will only juatifiably intensify. Iran must be crippled if they do not stop.

""
Europe should follow Washington's lead in pulling out of the nuclear pact with Tehran and recognizing Venezuela's opposition leader Juan Guaidó as president, Pence said at the annual conference attended by top global defense and foreign policy officials.



"The Iranian regime openly advocates another Holocaust and it seeks the means to achieve it," said Pence, who visited the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz earlier in the week.

"The time has come for our European partners to withdraw from the disastrous Iran nuclear deal and join with us as we bring the economic and diplomatic pressure."

Pence's latest speech reiterated remarks made in Poland on Thursday where he accused Britain, France and Germany of breaking American sanctions on Iran.""




Also

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20190216/news/302169976/

""Merkel told the Munich Security Conference Saturday the split over Iran "depresses me very much," but downplayed the substance of the differences.

She said: "I see the ballistic missile program, I see Iran in Yemen and above all I see Iran in Syria."""

 

[Stoic1]

Perhaps because Iran sees Israel as a destabilizing threat to the entire region. I could make a pretty strong argument from that perspective.

 

[abiG]

"The Iranian regime openly advocates another Holocaust and it seeks the means to achieve it," said Pence, who visited the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz earlier in the week.

You (and Pence) are complete tools.

 

[Seaside]

You (and Pence) are complete tools.

Its true.

 

[Seaside]

You (and Pence) are complete tools.

Iran is acting insane. And a danger to the jewish people.

 

[Seaside]

You (and Pence) are complete tools.

Iran is also a threat to the world.

 

[Happy Man]

Iran is also a threat to the world.

Lol no they aren't