International Iran fires huge barrage of missiles at Israel

[LeonardoBjj]

- People forget that american soldiers have been criminally charged for far less, than the Isreal geno force does on a regular base.

 

[SuperAlly]

Interesting if true

 

[SammyPops]

- People forget that american soldiers have been criminally charged for far less, than the Isreal geno force does on a regular base.

The US govt supports Israeli fighters even when they murder American citizens. Its legit stunning.

 

[Sakuraba'sEar]

Interesting if true

Having shit ballistic missiles is irresponsible

 

[kflo]

well you and i both know that's a twisted version of the truth. they've been victimized for 80 years straight by jews and Israel and they want that to stop. i'm sure if there was a way they could just debate their way into getting their land and homes and millions of dead friends and family back, they would. but it's going to require bloodshed dealing with israel, historically a profusely violent colonial settlement. so yes, they are aware of the reality that they will need to kill israelis.

the israel-palestine situation is very similar to the US/indigenous genocide in many ways. the difference is that palestine has allies with firepower, though they don't typically have the balls to use it

Everything is/was so peaceful in the region without those pesky Jews.

 

[filthybliss]

well you and i both know that's a twisted version of the truth. they've been victimized for 80 years straight by jews and Israel and they want that to stop. i'm sure if there was a way they could just debate their way into getting their land and homes and millions of dead friends and family back, they would. but it's going to require bloodshed dealing with israel, historically a profusely violent colonial settlement. so yes, they are aware of the reality that they will need to kill israelis.

Dude, there were several formal two state proposals thrown on the table. They rejected numerous times. The natives never got that opportunity....

the israel-palestine situation is very similar to the US/indigenous genocide in many ways. the difference is that palestine has allies with firepower, though they don't typically have the balls to use it

Hamas had the balls to indiscrimnately kill civilians and they have it outlined of that their goal is to wipe out the Jewish population....

 

[filthybliss]

Everything is/was so peaceful in the region without those pesky Jews.

I am not a fan of how Israel was wedged into existence. The whole creation of "Zionism" was predicated on anti-semitism in the west. The only member of the British Cabinet to disavow the Balfour Declaration was also the only Jewish Member of Cabinet and he had this to say:

“Zionism has always seemed to me to be a mischievous political creed, untenable by any patriotic citizen of the United Kingdom … I have always understood that those who indulged in this creed were largely animated by the restrictions upon and refusal of liberty to Jews in Russia. But at the very time when these Jews have been acknowledged as Jewish Russians and given all liberties, it seems to be inconceivable that zionism should be officially recognized by the British Government, and that Mr. Balfour should be authorized to say that Palestine was to be reconstituted as the ‘national home of the Jewish people’. I do not know what this involves, but I assume that it means that Mohammedans and Christians are to make way for the Jews, and that the Jews should be put in all positions of preference and should be peculiarly associated with Palestine in the same way that England is with the English or France with the French, that Turks and other Mohammedans in Palestine will be regarded as foreigners, just in the same way as Jews will hereafter be treated as foreigners in every country but Palestine"

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Regardless, Israel is a state as of 2024, destroying Israel won't undo the suffering of the past. Not every state was shaped into existence in the most righteous ways, it is what it is. It is not unique to Israel at all.

 

[Chules]

 

[filthybliss]

time to pack your bags and move to NK then.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Everything is/was so peaceful in the region without those pesky Jews.

eh, i wouldn't say peaceful, but israel has certainly amplified the violence exponentially.

 

[Hog-train]

Hamas had the balls to indiscrimnately kill civilians and they have it outlined of that their goal is to wipe out the Jewish population....

IDF dropped 1-2 thousand pound bombs on civilian areas and refugee camps. That's indiscriminately killing civilians too.

And major government officials in Israel's government have espoused genoicidal language toward the Palestinians as well. Like current Ministers serving in office and military leaders.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I am not a fan of how Israel was wedged into existence. The whole creation of "Zionism" was predicated on anti-semitism in the west. The only member of the British Cabinet to disavow the Balfour Declaration was also the only Jewish Member of Cabinet and he had this to say:

“Zionism has always seemed to me to be a mischievous political creed, untenable by any patriotic citizen of the United Kingdom … I have always understood that those who indulged in this creed were largely animated by the restrictions upon and refusal of liberty to Jews in Russia. But at the very time when these Jews have been acknowledged as Jewish Russians and given all liberties, it seems to be inconceivable that zionism should be officially recognized by the British Government, and that Mr. Balfour should be authorized to say that Palestine was to be reconstituted as the ‘national home of the Jewish people’. I do not know what this involves, but I assume that it means that Mohammedans and Christians are to make way for the Jews, and that the Jews should be put in all positions of preference and should be peculiarly associated with Palestine in the same way that England is with the English or France with the French, that Turks and other Mohammedans in Palestine will be regarded as foreigners, just in the same way as Jews will hereafter be treated as foreigners in every country but Palestine"

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Regardless, Israel is a state as of 2024, destroying Israel won't undo the suffering of the past. Not every state was shaped into existence in the most righteous ways, it is what it is. It is not unique to Israel at all.

I wish more people would admit this, instead Arabs get framed as being savages for not rolling over for the early Zionists who were absolutely a colonial imposition.

But yes I agree with you on the latter point as well, its not 1917 or 1948 anymore but 2024 and Israel is not going anywhere. Anyone who can't accept that is as much part of the problem as maximalist Zionists who want all the land from the river to the sea.

 

[Sakuraba'sEar]

- People forget that american soldiers have been criminally charged for far less, than the Isreal geno force does on a regular base.

We used to face UCMJ for one negligent discharge.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Hamas had the balls to indiscrimnately kill civilians and they have it outlined of that their goal is to wipe out the Jewish population....

Hamas did not kill civilians indiscriminately, to say so implies that they chose targets without care as to whether or not they were civilian or not.

The truth is they discriminately killed civilians, as in they had been training for years, and especially in the months leading up to Oct 7th, on mock kibbutzim and made their intentions to kill those inside them clear.

Multiple reports in recent days reveal that Israel was aware that Hamas had built mock Israeli communities to train for a major assault, even ending one massive drill with the words “We have completed the killing of everyone on the kibbutz,” but intelligence warnings were largely dismissed as “fantasy.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas...-town-we-have-killed-everyone-on-the-kibbutz/

We used to face UCMJ for one negligent discharge.

This is why I get so bothered when Americans call them the "most moral army in the world"

First off I don't think its true as a matter of fact but secondly how is it so normalized to say this in American public life? Are we saying that we hold our own military to a lower standard? I think the evidence suggests the opposite but oh well.

 

[Madmick]

I can't get a read, here. You've been posting anti-Israeli sentiments from the likes of Putin/RT, Jake Shields, Nick Fuentes, Jackson Hinkle, Andrew Tate, and now Kim Jong Un.

Are you a double agent who is trying to sabotage the Sherdog PR campaign against Israel from within?

 

[djacobox372]

IDF dropped 1-2 thousand pound bombs on civilian areas and refugee camps. That's indiscriminately killing civilians too.

And major government officials in Israel's government have espoused genoicidal language toward the Palestinians as well. Like current Ministers serving in office and military leaders.

"Refugee Camps".... you know how deceptive and dishonest that description of long-standing neighborhoods in Gaza is? or are you just one of the fooled?

When it comes to the region between the river and the sea, this conflict seems very mutually genocidal. Placing blame is difficult, because the only counter to an enemy that seeks to genocide you is to return the favor. The difference I see is that Arab Muslims have many countries to flee to and belong, whereas the Jews do not--there back is far more to the wall. Israel has also shown more ability to integrate Arab Muslims into their nation, where not a single Muslim nation has shown ANY tolerance of Jewish people.

 

[Hog-train]

"Refugee Camps".... you know how deceptive and dishonest that description of long-standing neighborhoods in Gaza is? or are you just one of the fooled?

It's well documented and has been all over the news. I'm honestly baffled by people like you who don't even know the bare facts.

Refugee camp airstrikes in the Israel–Hamas war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[filthybliss]

I wish more people would admit this, instead Arabs get framed as being savages for not rolling over for the early Zionists who were absolutely a colonial imposition.

But yes I agree with you on the latter point as well, its not 1917 or 1948 anymore but 2024 and Israel is not going anywhere. Anyone who can't accept that is as much part of the problem as maximalist Zionists who want all the land from the river to the sea.

It is not hard to admit, I mean just put the whole situation in context. The majority of Jewish Folks didn't feel comfortable in the West so instead of changing that, Europe collectively just decided they could chase them off to a "Jewish" State.

Hamas did not kill civilians indiscriminately, to say so implies that they chose targets without care as to whether or not they were civilian or not.

The truth is they discriminately killed civilians, as in they had been training for years, and especially in the months leading up to Oct 7th, on mock kibbutzim and made their intentions to kill those inside them clear.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas...-town-we-have-killed-everyone-on-the-kibbutz/

I agree. Awful wording on my part.

This is why I get so bothered when Americans call them the "most moral army in the world"

First off I don't think its true as a matter of fact but secondly how is it so normalized to say this in American public life? Are we saying that we hold our own military to a lower standard? I think the evidence suggests the opposite but oh well.

After the whole anal rape debacle was exposed, I don't know how anyone can say this stuff. Especially since a lot of the rapists got away with it.

3 suspects in Sde Teiman abuse case released after new evidence presented

Remands of 5 other reservists extended until Tuesday, during ongoing investigation into suspected sexual abuse of Palestinian detainee

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Islam Imamate]

I agree. Awful wording on my part.

I didn't mean to criticize you, that's a common way of describing massacres so the point still stands.

I make that distinction because given the available evidence I think we can safely say that the massacres that occurred on Oct 7th weren't just a case of soldiers becoming spontaneously hot blooded and going on an impromptu rampage, it was the natural consequence of their training and institutional culture.

After the whole anal rape debacle was exposed, I don't know how anyone can say this stuff. Especially since a lot of the rapists got away with it.

3 suspects in Sde Teiman abuse case released after new evidence presented

Remands of 5 other reservists extended until Tuesday, during ongoing investigation into suspected sexual abuse of Palestinian detainee

www.timesofisrael.com

Every army will have sporadic human rights abuses like this if they are engaged in combat but what was telling about that story is that a mob that included Knesset members stormed the base they were being detained to release them.

Imagining a few American soldiers committing abuses on prisoners is not hard, we have the example of Abu Ghraib. But I do struggle to imagine US Congressmen storming a base with a mob to release such a person.

 

[SuperAlly]

If North Korea are opposed to you, you are certainly on the right side