International/Olympic wrestling discussion.

Grappler111 said:
Over 1,5 millions of spectators for UWW Grappling world championships (junior). Not bad!
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I think what would be cool would be for UWW to support Combat Wrestling, given that is essentially what they are trying to do and Combat Wrestling already has an established, storied history. Or maybe just straight-up catch-wrestling.
 
Kforcer said:
I think what would be cool would be for UWW to support Combat Wrestling, given that is essentially what they are trying to do and Combat Wrestling already has an established, storied history. Or maybe just straight-up catch-wrestling.
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Could be nice but I think that UWW submission development is called Grappling. This style has a strong support of Russian Wrestling federation and the ruleset is interesting for wrestlers and non wrestlers.
 
Grappler111 said:
Small provocation!

Greco help freestyle. In Europe you can see cross training between Freestyle and Greco.
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Greco helps freestyle and folkstyle, that's very true.

However, freestyle and folkstyle do not help greco. And since scholastic wrestling is exclusively folkstyle, it doesn't help America dominate in greco.

It's the same dynamic as with MMA and wrestling. MMA fighters all train wrestling to prepare for their fights. However, no wrestler would train MMA to prepare for a wrestling tournament.
 
jack36767 said:
Again. Don’t have an issue with grappling. I have an issue with your pathetic desperation to give your country easy medals rather than doing the hard work to have a respectable domestic freestyle team.

Hell, I just realized something else to thank the Italian women’s team for. Without them you wouldn’t even have your Cuban gift medals
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There are too wars inside the federation with other disciplines (karate and judo). The most dangerous is freestyle vs greco coaches. There are gyms with greco and women's wrestling but not freestyle!
Wrestling needs to be developed like one discipline with different styles like other successful sports in my country, see athletic, sailing, volleyball etc.
Grappling in Italy has a very good federation and my hope is not to have easy medals but a better management and finally an independent WRESTLING federation with Freestyle wrestling , Greco roman, Women's wrestling, Beach Wrestling, Grappling and Pankration.
 
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StopDucking said:
Greco helps freestyle and folkstyle, that's very true.

However, freestyle and folkstyle do not help greco. And since scholastic wrestling is exclusively folkstyle, it doesn't help America dominate in greco.

It's the same dynamic as with MMA and wrestling. MMA fighters all train wrestling to prepare for their fights. However, no wrestler would train MMA to prepare for a wrestling tournament.
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Totally agree with you
 
Grappler111 said:
There are too wars inside the federation with other disciplines (karate and judo). The most dangerous is freestyle vs greco coaches. There are gyms with greco and women's wrestling but not freestyle!
Wrestling needs to be developed like one discipline with different styles like other successful sports in my country, see athletic, sailing, volleyball etc.
Grappling in Italy has a very good federation and my hope is not to have easy medals but a better management and finally an independent WRESTLING federation with Freestyle wrestling , Greco roman, Women's wrestling, Beach Wrestling, Grappling and Pankration.
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  • Like I said. Institutional changes take time.
  • It’s no excuse for justifying sucking
  • your behavior concerning Chamizo and other things let’s me know it’s desperation for medals
  • It’s obvious you’ve never coached
 
jack36767 said:
  • Like I said. Institutional changes take time.
  • It’s no excuse for justifying sucking
  • your behavior concerning Chamizo and other things let’s me know it’s desperation for medals
  • It’s obvious you’ve never coached
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The institutional troubles have over 30 years of history. A national federation with (now) 3 Olympic sports and 3 different international federations is not a good choice.

You are obsessed with Chamizo LOL.
 
Grappler111 said:
The institutional troubles have over 30 years of history. A national federation with (now) 3 Olympic sports and 3 different international federations is not a good choice.

You are obsessed with Chamizo LOL.
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Nope, simply addressing your bs.

I’d recommended you stop desperately pushing for the other arts to become Olympic sports. It both makes you and your country look pathetic and desperate. And makes the other styles look like gimmicks used by countries scared to play with the big boys.

Let them gain legitimacy on their own..

And also. Stop being butthurt your country doesn’t have it in the school system. You can still do things to suck less
 
Another your obsession...I'm not in wrestling business so I have not problems with the lack of medals.
We have simply two different opinions. In my vision the sport of Olympic wrestling is multi style like athletics or swimming. With additional styles you can finally have the numbers to add new sponsors, practitioners and spectators.
 
Grappler111 said:
Another your obsession...I'm not in wrestling business so I have not problems with the lack of medals.
We have simply two different opinions. In my vision the sport of Olympic wrestling is multi style like athletics or swimming. With additional styles you can finally have the numbers to add new sponsors, practitioners and spectators.
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It is quite amusing to see you to say things opposite of what you’ve said for years.
 
World Championship time this week
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The real world championships, not the beach bum version (sorry meds ;) ) (maybe we can get a north sea beach bikini wrestling championship? LOL)

 
Yazdani for the win . Iran should make the guy a statue somewhere
 
So damn happy for Yazdani the goat. That Olympic Final was just heartbreaking.

Iranian Olympic Bronz Medalist Zare is HW Champ at the age of 21. He's a problem
 
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