Tech "intel's f-----"

[PEB]

I have heard of cat fights between Sony and Microsoft fanboys, but cat fights between Intel and AMD fanboys? There are actually fanboys of CPUs?

No but Rob will not stop spreading false information about Intel vs AMD like he is working from an office within AMD.

 

[rob mafia]

You're pretty clueless are you not? Intel has worked with people like IBM, GlobalFoundries, Samsung and heck even AMD. AMD was almost dead in the water during their time developing NexGen chip Intel could have killed them at that time but knowing how the Government would have reacted they thrown them a lifeline. You act like Intel some small upstart that cannot compete with the big boys lol please.

Heck AMD did not even design their own X86 design instead was licensed to manufacture X86 chips for Intel "That's interesting lol". It wasn't till they acquired a little known upstart NextGen did they get a chip that could run X86 microcode via hardware emulation on the chip. They had their work cut out for them but they where much further along then anyone else in making that work.

So please understand Intel will not be out of this for long they have over 50 years of patents and technology to make this work.

"
NexGen (Milpitas, California) was a private semiconductor company that designed x86 microprocessors until it was purchased by AMD in 1996.[1] NexGen was a fabless design house that designed its chips but relied on other companies for production. NexGen's chips were produced by IBM's Microelectronics division.

The company was best known for the unique implementation of the x86 architecture in its processors. NexGen's CPUs were designed very differently from other processors based on the x86 instruction set at the time: the processor would translate code designed to run on the traditionally CISC-based x86 architecture to run on the chip's internal RISC architecture.[2] The architecture was used in later AMD chips such as the K6, and to an extent most x86 processors today implement a "hybrid" architecture similar to those used in NexGen's processors.

It went public in 1994, and was bought by AMD in 1995 for $850M. The technology forms the platform architecture for all of AMD’s current microprocessors. It was an unusual start-up in its time as the original funding came from corporate investors, Compaq and Olivetti, joined in a later round by venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins."

yeah, 1994 is real relevant now

No but Rob will not stop spreading false information about Intel vs AMD like he is working from an office within AMD.

citation requested.

you won't.

 

[Neph]

I have heard of cat fights between Sony and Microsoft fanboys, but cat fights between Intel and AMD fanboys? There are actually fanboys of CPUs?

I simply can't understand it. For our sake we need them to be competitive and I'm glad AMD was the superior CPU for a while after a very long drought.

 

[rob mafia]

I simply can't understand it. For our sake we need them to be competitive and I'm glad AMD was the superior CPU for a while after a very long drought.

because that's not what this is about.

i pointed out what i thought were fucking obvious problems with intel and 5 people went off the rails, one most notably. this only became a thread after 5 pages' worth of mod rage. hell, one of the people involved seemed to have his account hijacked by a wumao and undergoes a 180 shift and some weird nationalism/patriotism.

it's not about fanboy of company a vs fanboys of company b

 

[PEB]

I simply can't understand it. For our sake we need them to be competitive and I'm glad AMD was the superior CPU for a while after a very long drought.

This is my point and only my point Rob made it into race war that I have issues with Taiwan the country, that I have raciest tendencies towards Taiwan check it out in earlier posts. The guy at least I think he's a man sits here waiting for my reply. Competition is good for everyone letting one company run away with everything if it is chip performance IE AMD, Intel , GlobalFounderies, TSMC or any other up an coming fab or design house. We need competition or we end up with what happened between 2005 to 2018 where CPU's stagnated for the most part. AMD was like a shot in the arm getting the industry going again and forcing Intel to make drastic changes. We more then ever need a vibrant chip manufacturing arm because the world is so unstable right now and that US needs to be producing advanced chips as much as Taiwan, Europe and other Countries. It's stupid to have just one or two major suppliers fabs producing over 80 percent of the worlds supply of advance chips. We cannot wait for potential moves by China or Russia or whoever effect the global supply of chips.

 

[Neph]

My controversial opinion right now is that the whole thing about CPUs is a bit overblown for most users.

If you are:

• playing at 1080p almost anything modern is going to run it at an excellent frame rate, or
• playing at 1440p you're in the middle ground where either could be a limiter, but a modern CPU is still unlikely to bottleneck you, or
• playing at 4K, almost anything modern is limited by the GPU

New CPUs just aren't really going to make an appreciable difference to me since I'm not rendering or compiling code. What I'm interested in is the next generation of GPUs that bring more power and perhaps someday require their own portable power plant to sit beside them.

 

[rob mafia]

This is my point and only my point Rob made it into race war

holy shit. RIGHT AFTER you accused me of "false information," (i noticed you couldn't cite one thing) you pull this from your bloody asshole.

yeah, brah. race war!

lolwtfbbq



take your meds

My controversial opinion right now is that the whole thing about CPUs

...why do so many people post on a forum when they can't even read?

 

[PEB]

holy shit. RIGHT AFTER you accused me of "false information," (i noticed you couldn't cite one thing) you pull this from your bloody asshole.

yeah, brah. race war!

lolwtfbbq



take your meds




...why do so many people post on a forum when they can't even read?

...ok, so are you a wumao who took over his account, or what? recently, it's clear that you hate taiwan and (therefore) promote intel. but the posts are fucking weird and just shit spam. often the spam wasn't even remotely relevant.

but i get it. taiwan bad, intel good. we should just let taiwan get taken by ccp, we'll still have intel!

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/intels-f.4083915/page-15#post-166282114


Many of your posts accuse me of hating Taiwan that I am anti Taiwan missing the point I just want more chips. Many of your posts are closed to deranged in your responses.

 

[rob mafia]

...ok, so are you a wumao who took over his account, or what? recently, it's clear that you hate taiwan and (therefore) promote intel. but the posts are fucking weird and just shit spam. often the spam wasn't even remotely relevant.

but i get it. taiwan bad, intel good. we should just let taiwan get taken by ccp, we'll still have intel!

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/intels-f.4083915/page-15#post-166282114


Many of your posts accuse me of hating Taiwan that I am anti Taiwan missing the point I just want more chips. Many of your posts are closed to deranged in your responses.

...so... where's this "race war" bs?



and your own posts were hating on taiwan and going nutso even accusing me of owning tsmc - repeatedly.

across multiple threads.

across subforums.


eta:

this was one of my favorites:

These moves play into Chinas hands more companies move the more Twainese could turn on US an other countries. The economic impact on Twain could be bad. US is not the only country that Twainese companies could seek to move. Chinese just need to threaten aggressive action an Companies run for cover.

 

[PEB]

...so... where's this "race war" bs?



and your own posts were hating on taiwan and going nutso even accusing me of owning tsmc - repeatedly.

across multiple threads.

across subforums.


eta:

this was one of my favorites:

There is nothing in there that says I hate Taiwan I was pointing out the danger that China could pose to the chip supply given its position so near to Taiwan. We need to protect our supply of chips.

 

[rob mafia]

There is nothing in there that says I hate Taiwan I was pointing out the danger that China could pose to the chip supply given its position so near to Taiwan. We need to protect our supply of chips.

.........k, still waiting for you to cite this "race war" bs, but i guess it was just "false information."

 

[PEB]

.........k, still waiting for you to cite this "race war" bs, but i guess it was just "false information."

", it's clear that you hate taiwan and (therefore) promote intel."

 

[Blayt7hh]

I have heard of cat fights between Sony and Microsoft fanboys, but cat fights between Intel and AMD fanboys? There are actually fanboys of CPUs?

There are definitely CPU fanboys. This fight goes back like 20 years. It’s not that crazy either since CPU’s can have a big impact on your build.

 

[rob mafia]

", it's clear that you hate taiwan and (therefore) promote intel."

...so nothing, then? just "false information"

 

[PEB]

...so nothing, then? just "false information"

"Key Points

• Intel has started taking market share from Advanced Micro Devices in a couple of key areas.
• Intel's product roadmap indicates that its resurgence is here to stay.
• Market share gains in desktops and notebooks could give Intel's client computing group segment a shot in the arm.

Motley Fool Issues Rare “All In” Buy Alert

Intel (NASDAQ:INTC) is in the process of regaining the manufacturing lead that it lost to rivals like Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, popularly known as TSMC, and Samsung four years ago, and its turnaround looks to be on track based on the latest market share numbers from Mercury Research.

Let's take a closer look at Intel's progress and check why the chip giant is now in a solid position to make a comeback."

Intel hardly going away and it's not surprising your still holding firm that Intel is dead in the water. I worked for many of the people going over to Intel to help with the development of the next generation chips many have 30 or more years in chip design. A few literally had Jim Keller working for them.

 

[rob mafia]

"Key Points

• Intel has started taking market share from Advanced Micro Devices in a couple of key areas.
• Intel's product roadmap indicates that its resurgence is here to stay.
• Market share gains in desktops and notebooks could give Intel's client computing group segment a shot in the arm.

Motley Fool Issues Rare “All In” Buy Alert

Intel (NASDAQ:INTC) is in the process of regaining the manufacturing lead that it lost to rivals like Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, popularly known as TSMC, and Samsung four years ago, and its turnaround looks to be on track based on the latest market share numbers from Mercury Research.

Let's take a closer look at Intel's progress and check why the chip giant is now in a solid position to make a comeback."

Intel hardly going away and it's not surprising your still holding firm that Intel is dead in the water. I worked for many of the people going over to Intel to help with the development of the next generation chips many have 30 or more years in chip design. A few literally had Jim Keller working for them.

nah, "dead in the water" implies they're not moving. they managed to lose 25% from thread start to now... that's... well, 25% WORSE than "dead in the water"




no idea why you quoted me mocking your lack of "race war" citations or "false information" - you still cited exactly 0.

 

[rob mafia]

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/intels-ceo-tired-wall-street-doubting-his-turnaround-plan

1 whole day later (and it's their annual investor day):

raja's dgpu delayed again and no more free cash (free cash flow is negative for 2022 and not expected to be positive for years). i guess it's clear why they're begging for handouts. oh, well. at least they only blew a few hundred billion dollars.

 

[PEB]

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/intels-ceo-tired-wall-street-doubting-his-turnaround-plan

1 whole day later (and it's their annual investor day):

raja's dgpu delayed again and no more free cash (free cash flow is negative for 2022 and not expected to be positive for years). i guess it's clear why they're begging for handouts. oh, well. at least they only blew a few hundred billion dollars.

I could post something similar with AMD CEO Lisa Su, Elon Musk and I am sure a few others. Wall Street hardly been visionaries when it comes to predicting the next recovery or even the next big thing. Big example even though Bitcoin is down to 42,000 the Winklevoss are not selling out because they saw the potential back in 2011 and scoped up huge amount of it for 210 million dollars now worth many billions. They thought of talking to Wall Street executives and had already received hundreds of millions and took a huge risk on buying Bitcoin but now are way ahead even losing millions are still way ahead. Wall Street could really care less about the twins even thought they graduated from Harvard. Now they are taking a bath on Bitcoin the Winklevoss are so far ahead they can ride it out.

 

[rob mafia]

I could post something similar with AMD CEO Lisa Su, Elon Musk and I am sure a few others. Wall Street hardly been visionaries when it comes to predicting the next recovery or even the next big thing. Big example even though Bitcoin is down to 42,000 the Winklevoss are not selling out because they saw the potential back in 2011 and scoped up huge amount of it for 210 million dollars now worth many billions. They thought of talking to Wall Street executives and had already received hundreds of millions and took a huge risk on buying Bitcoin but now are way ahead even losing millions are still way ahead. Wall Street could really care less about the twins even thought they graduated from Harvard. Now they are taking a bath on Bitcoin the Winklevoss are so far ahead they can ride it out.

what in the hell are you rambling about? name one thing in that babble that you think is relevant to this.

 

[PEB]

what in the hell are you rambling about? name one thing in that babble that you think is relevant to this.

2015 AMD looks familiar? Thanks to Google it's somewhat easy to find examples.

"
Advanced Micro Devices (NASDAQ:AMD) recently reported its first quarter earnings, and they were ugly. The PC segment continued to collapse, with revenue from CPUs and GPUs falling by 38% year-over-year. The Enterprise, Embedded, and Semi-Custom segment, which includes AMD's game console business, shrunk as well, with revenue falling by 7% and operating profit nearly cut in half.

AMD doesn't expect things to get better anytime soon. The company has guided for a 3% sequential decline in total revenue during the second quarter, equivalent to a 30% year-over-year decline. The second half of this year may prove to be a bit better for AMD, with new graphics cards expected to launch in June, but big revenue declines are still likely, as are continued losses.

With AMD burning cash as it attempts to turn around its business, how long does the company have before bankruptcy becomes a real possibility?"