Tech "intel's f-----"

[Madmick]

lolz @ you even trying to talk shit after thinking that "intel's fucked" was some absurdist statement and not a fairly obvious call.

and genius, i did mention (over and over) how intel's stuck at 14nm and referred to their 10nm cpu/7nm cpu/gpu as vaporware. additionally, i used the word "margin" about 20 times.

you lost.

and funnier, i banked on this. as of last week, my portfolio was ~98% amd shares/calls and intc puts. ffs, i even called the shot with mentioning how intc ending buybacks means that short campaigns can begin. lolz. if only you understood what the terms meant...

Still waiting on that prediction for when "Intel's fucked". You've tucked dick since last year while they've posted record revenues and massive profits quarter after quarter. Earlier in this thread it was revealed you don't even know how earnings per share are calculated. So basic. Nobody is duped by your financial guru schtick ranting about buybacks. Apple must be "fucked", too, if that's the benchmark.

When do they go out of business? When do they lose server market share dominance? When does most laptops start shipping with non-Intel CPUs?

Give us a hard figure. Set a date. You've been ducking this simple challenge for nearly a year.

 

[rob mafia]

Still waiting on that prediction for when "Intel's fucked"

umm... hello?

You've tucked dick since last year while they've posted record revenues and massive profits quarter after quarter

...tucked dick? and lolz @ this again - genius, LIKE I SAID REPEATEDLY, "record revenue" and DOWN PROFIT (not record, not massive, not even up... but down) is a red flag. it's why i pointed it out. repeatedly.

Earlier in this thread it was revealed you don't even know how earnings per share are calculated.

...that was you. apparently, you still don't know...
also, this.

ironically, here was when you ran... again.

protip: less shares (due to buybacks) and same earnings = higher eps. derp.

Nobody is duped by your financial guru schtick ranting about buybacks. Apple must be "fucked", too, if that's the benchmark.

...because apple was focusing on keeping the share price up while losing market share and falling behind in tech, right? i mean... aside from all that (you know, my premise) - yeah, it's the same!

lolz @ mentioning apple... when apple ditched intel. which, btw, i mentioned on page 1.

Give us a hard figure. Set a date. You've been ducking this simple challenge for nearly a year.

lolwut?

1. i already called the shot.
2. i already put my money where my keyboard is. and profited greatly.
3. intel's down bigly in a time where the semis are up bigly. you're asking when they're fucked. they ARE fucked. they're down 19% in the last 3 months while the semi index is up 20% over that time - even with intel's dead weight bringing it down. they just sacked some dept heads, keller's gone, their ceo's days are numbered, analysts are pissed, and the ambulance chasers are out trying to get a lawsuit underway.

lolz @ this level of delusion, where you believe/pretend you haven't been utterly BTFO.

and lolz @ thinking anyone would give you a date for bankrupcy/etc. that info would be worth billions.

 

[Madmick]

umm... hello?

...tucked dick? and lolz @ this again - genius, LIKE I SAID REPEATEDLY, "record revenue" and DOWN PROFIT (not record, not massive, not even up... but down) is a red flag. it's why i pointed it out. repeatedly.

...that was you. apparently, you still don't know...
also, this.

ironically, here was when you ran... again.

protip: less shares (due to buybacks) and same earnings = higher eps. derp.

...because apple was focusing on keeping the share price up while losing market share and falling behind in tech, right? i mean... aside from all that (you know, my premise) - yeah, it's the same!

lolz @ mentioning apple... when apple ditched intel. which, btw, i mentioned on page 1.

lolwut?

1. i already called the shot.
2. i already put my money where my keyboard is. and profited greatly.
3. intel's down bigly in a time where the semis are up bigly. you're asking when they're fucked. they ARE fucked. they're down 19% in the last 3 months while the semi index is up 20% over that time - even with intel's dead weight bringing it down. they just sacked some dept heads, keller's gone, their ceo's days are numbered, analysts are pissed, and the ambulance chasers are out trying to get a lawsuit underway.

lolz @ this level of delusion, where you believe/pretend you haven't been utterly BTFO.

It's already been explained to you that Intel's earnings per share went up during these quarters even if you divided by the total shares outstanding. It's also been explained that their profits nearly matched record levels even accounting for buyback expenses, while revenue were at record levels despite them, and profits were actually up by non-GAAP tallies.

Nobody is surprised that Apple has moved to produce their own chips for their own products; it saves them large amounts of cash to produce them in-house. It's difficult to stifle a smirk for you to think you had some hot dish to talk about this at the end of 2019. It was being reported in early 2018. They've been demolishing ARM competitors for years, and ARM has finally gotten strong enough to power laptops. With that, Intel loses 10% of the laptop market and 4% of the desktop market.

and lolz @ thinking anyone would give you a date for bankrupcy/etc. that info would be worth billions.

Yet it's the premise of your thread. You're forwarding a prediction. You're too chicken shit to offer it concretely. You can't commit because you desire to milk every bad headline in perpetuity while ignoring or rationalizing away all of the good ones. Everyone in here was aware of Intel's struggles with AMD on the rise. You're the only one who said "they're fucked". So tell us when they fold. Tell us when the hostile takeover arrives. Tell us when Mitt Romney's friends buy it up to piece it off.

When you're ready to be serious and own what that comment suggests, we'll be waiting.

 

[rob mafia]

It's already been explained to you that Intel's earnings per share went up during these quarters even if you divided by the total shares outstanding.

lolz. what, individually? shit's compounding.

It's also been explained that their profits nearly matched record levels even accounting for buyback expenses, while revenue were at record levels despite them, and profits were actually up by non-GAAP tallies.

WAT

a lie isn't an explanation, it's just a lie. DOWN 6% is not up any. it's not flat. it's down.

again - DOWN profit with "record fucking revenue" = red flag

lolz @ still trying to bring up non-gaap, though. and still without an explanation. but their cooked books said it's good!

btw, buybacks aren't counted against profit, genius. (or revenue, which i think you claimed before and are now backpedaling to the above, as if THAT was the error. it wasn't. you just don't know what you're talking about. at all)

edit: yup (this is from an older post)

a buyback only changes revenue, not profits

lolz

Yet it's the premise of your thread. You're forwarding a prediction. You're too chicken shit to offer it concretely.

how much are you offering me? lolz @ thinking anyone would just give away financial advice like this. for free. on an mma forum. to an obsessive stalker.

You can't commit because you desire to milk every bad headline in perpetuity while ignoring or rationalizing away all of the good ones. Everyone in here was aware of Intel's struggles with AMD on the rise. You're the only one who said "they're fucked". So tell us when they fold. Tell us when the hostile takeover arrives. Tell us when Mitt Romney's friends buy it up to piece it off.

When you're ready to be serious and own what that comment suggests, we'll be waiting.

lolz @ pretending i can't commit.

like i said, i called the shot and i put my $ where my keyboard is. all you've done is bitch, fuck up basic equations (eps, profit, etc), and embrace delusion.

lolz @ pretending that someone saying "intel's fucked" now magically means that the person must tell you their restructuring date. your insecurity is sweet.

 

[Madmick]

btw, buybacks aren't counted against profit, genius. (or revenue, which i think you claimed before and are now backpedaling to the above, as if THAT was the error. it wasn't. you just don't know what you're talking about. at all)

edit: yup (this is from an older post)

lolz

This right here is why the most liked comment in this thread (was around 16 before the purge) was the following by @jojoRed directed at me:

Why are you arguing with an idiot. This dude is like the most toxic poster in this sub forum. You see his post and quickly scroll down, sometimes when youre a bit drunk, you shoot a reply knowing you'll trigger him. Then he'll spam lolz or some type of pedantic bullshit, then move goalposts then cry some more.

You just quoted me pointing out that profits are unchanged by buybacks. Even if subtracting buybacks (counted as spending) from revenue, then dividing that by the new shares outstanding, their earnings per share were still up. I quoted an article that pointed this out. Your riposte was to characterize the downturn of 0.02% in GAAP profits from 2019 to 2018 as "slashed" profits.

Here's another statistic: over the previous 12 months, Intel has a net income of over $22bn. AMD has a net income of $600m during the same time.

 

[rob mafia]

This right here is why the most liked comment in this thread (was around 16 before the purge) was the following by @jojoRed directed at me:

You just quoted me pointing out that profits are unchanged by buybacks. Even if subtracting buybacks (counted as spending) from revenue, then dividing that by the new shares outstanding, their earnings per share were still up. I quoted an article that pointed this out. Your riposte was to characterize the downturn of 0.02% in GAAP profits from 2019 to 2018 as "slashed" profits.

Here's another statistic: over the previous 12 months, Intel has a net income of over $22bn. AMD has a net income of $600m during the same time.

why even make the above post when you just evaded everything to pat yourself on the back via a third party (and from the past? lolz!)? and it's ironic given what jojo said - and the fact that you've been the one moving goalposts (to now insisting i have to tell you the day of intel's demise). lolz @ likes, to begin with... now moreso after the purge.

for fuck's sake - you didn't even know how profit (or revenue... yikes!) was/is calculated. and you apparently were either too short-sighted to realize that buybacks have a compounding effect OR were deliberately lying to imply otherwise. pick your poison.

you lost. again.


edit: and yes, down 6% is down. down ".02%" (again, lolz @ this cherrypicking without reason) is STILL down. "record fucking revenue" and DOWN profit = yikes.

intel's doing just fine!

 

[Madmick]

why even make the above post when you just evaded everything to pat yourself on the back via a third party (and from the past? lolz!)? and it's ironic given what jojo said - and the fact that you've been the one moving goalposts (to now insisting i have to tell you the day of intel's demise). lolz @ likes, to begin with... now moreso after the purge.

for fuck's sake - you didn't even know how profit (or revenue... yikes!) was/is calculated. and you apparently were either too short-sighted to realize that buybacks have a compounding effect OR were deliberately lying to imply otherwise. pick your poison.

you lost. again.

edit: and yes, down 6% is down. down ".02%" (again, lolz @ this cherrypicking without reason) is STILL down. "record fucking revenue" and DOWN profit = yikes.

intel's doing just fine!

The point of that sidebar was that EPS was up regardless of your caterwauling about buybacks (because this was your attempt to repudiate EPS highs along with everything else). It's impossible to accept that you understand how buybacks affect quarterly reports when you get accounting facts this basic wrong, and only seek to portray them negatively-- something the socialists tend to do because they don't care for companies concentrating wealth in the companies and their shareholders. Then you try to pass off smug remarks like, "I don't give financial advice away for free," when you spend hundreds of posts pretending to be Vin Diesel from Boiler Room in this forum. LOL, dude, you spend all day giving away your "financial advice" for free. Trust me, nobody would pay you for this. You work for free because that's what your "advice" is worth.

You don't even have the balls to commit to a prediction. Bankruptcy, merges, closures, how many assets will be sold off, and when. Hell, not even a stock price to expect by the end of 2020 or 2021. We mock you because of how well Intel has been doing while you pontificated in hyperbole, they're "fucked", and even now you won't specify a date for them being "fucked".

Every ounce of the bad press and bad market movement for Intel the past week has been due to this bombshell about their 7nm failure, but you had no clue this was going to happen. You never said a thing about it. It has nothing to do with the sales and figures that predated it, and your misunderstanding of these basics. It didn't come from a quarterly report. This is all negative projection stemming from new information about manufacturing woes.

 

[rob mafia]

The point of that sidebar was that EPS was up regardless of your caterwauling about buybacks (because this was your attempt to repudiate EPS highs along with everything else). It's impossible to accept that you understand how buybacks affect quarterly reports when you get accounting facts this basic wrong, and only seek to portray them negatively-- something the socialists tend to do because they don't care for companies concentrating wealth in the companies and their shareholders. Then you try to pass off smug remarks like, "I don't give financial advice away for free," when you spend hundreds of posts pretending to be Vin Diesel from Boiler Room in this forum. LOL, dude, you spend all day giving away your "financial advice" for free. Trust me, nobody would pay you for this. You work for free because that's what your "advice" is worth

lolz @ now rambling about socialism.

all this to evade the fact that you apparently didn't realize that buybacks have a compounding effect. big brain shit.

and you apparently didn't even comprehend the plot of boiler room, either. protip: they weren't traders.

You don't even have the balls to commit to a prediction. Bankruptcy, merges, closures, how many assets will be sold off, and when. Hell, not even a stock price to expect by the end of 2020 or 2021. We mock you because of how well Intel has been doing while you pontificated in hyperbole, they're "fucked", and even now you won't specify a date for them being "fucked".

Every ounce of the bad press and bad market movement for Intel the past week has been due to this bombshell about their 7nm failure, but you had no clue this was going to happen. You never said a thing about it. It has nothing to do with the sales and figures that predated it, and your misunderstanding of these basics. It didn't come from a quarterly report. This is all negative projection stemming from new information about manufacturing woes.

...yeah, that's why i called it vaporware and etc. it's why i kept mentioning how they were spending tons on buybacks while cutting their r&d.

all the insults and bullshit from you - and you can't even point out anything i said that was wrong. it must be killing you inside.

 

[Satur9]

This is funny stuff here. Still waiting for that day

 

[rob mafia]

This is funny stuff here. Still waiting for that day

...so you didn't read the thread or any intel news in the past 10 days? lolz.

 

[Satur9]

...so you didn't read the thread or any intel news in the past 10 days? lolz.

Up and down is the ride called life. Lolz

Quote Me when they are actually fucked fucked.

 

[rob mafia]

Up and down is the ride called life. Lolz

Quote Me when they are actually fucked fucked.

...just did.

 

[Woldog]

Honestly when @Madmick @jefferz and @rob mafia get in a thread together the content is gold.
For the record I don't even understand half the stuff anything you guys are talking about.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Honestly when @Madmick @jefferz and @rob mafia get in a thread together the content is gold.
For the record I don't even understand half the stuff anything you guys are talking about.

Yup. Whatever they’re talking about is completely out of my wheelhouse, but I’m just here to watch watch them bang.

 

[rob mafia]

Yup. Whatever they’re talking about is completely out of my wheelhouse, but I’m just here to watch watch them bang.

sorry, it looks like madmick actually knows he's BTFO, which is why he's been mostly evading for the last 30 posts or so.

 

[PEB]

TSMC absolutely crushing the competition with fabs. and Intel going begging for their services.
"
fter Intel’s 7nm delay news broke last week, Intel’s stock took a nasty nosedive while AMD’s got a shot in the arm. While we admittedly aren’t stock experts, we know stocks are a finicky thing, but the news was interesting nonetheless.

We got a tip from a reader pointing-out that AMD’s stock wasn’t the only one that got a boost. On the back of Intel’s 7nm news, it seems TSMC’s stock shot up as well. TSMC’s stock is currently sitting just above $78 per share, and it has a market cap of approaching $400B at time of writing. As the user who sent us the tip pointed out, that puts it above massive companies such as Walmart, Procter & Gamble, as well as AMD and Nvidia. TSMC has also become one of the top 10 most valuable companies, as of this writing, and is one of the top two or three for Taiwan’s export industry."

The US Government needs to up investment in silicon production because it's a case of national security.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3608-hw-news-nzxt-bld

 

[rob mafia]

and they dumped their memory unit last week.

 

[rob mafia]

so...

"concession accepted?"

and lolz @ their fab now being behind tsm, samsung, and... apparently, even smic.


(and lolz @ getting kicked out of the ps5 thread for... posting the cruz headshake @ someone suggesting we should buy every console? [post was deleted] ) serious business.

 

[Drain Bamage]

That's sad. Intel make the premium CPU's I don't want to be stuck with AMD chips. I've always been an Intel + NVidia guy.

 

[rob mafia]

That's sad. Intel make the premium CPU's I don't want to be stuck with AMD chips. I've always been an Intel + NVidia guy.

intel's cpus have been pretty behind for a while overall. but the zen3s look to have them beat across the board.