Tech "intel's f-----"

[rob mafia]

Pointless.I laughed at your attitude in this thread title like twice. LOL.

I laughed at this thread and your behavior in it because it demonstrates your shitty nature, and why everyone has you on block or avoids you, not because of the actual thread, which went over your flattened head like always.

Congrats, halfwit.

...so you got nothin'. as usual

 

[hillelslovak87]

...so you got nothin'. as usual

Bro, I used the intel's fucked example because it highlights how much of a poison you are to anyone who engages with you. It had nothing to do with the business of intel.

Fucking hell, you'll go onto yet another user's ignore list........

 

[rob mafia]

Bro, I used the intel's fucked example because it highlights how much of a poison you are to anyone who engages with you. It had nothing to do with the business of intel.

Fucking hell, you'll go onto yet another user's ignore list........

lolz @ talking shit incessantly (ie: the rant elsewhere that led to me tagging you here) and then bringing up ignore lists.

 

[Clifford_Harris]

lol when I think of a company being "fucked" I'm thinking this company is about to file for bankruptcy, be taken over, have the board or executives arrested. I'm not thinking a company is "fucked" because they record lower profits than expected.

 

[rob mafia]

lol when I think of a company being "fucked" I'm thinking this company is about to file for bankruptcy, be taken over, have the board or executives arrested. I'm not thinking a company is "fucked" because they record lower profits than expected.

it's not just lower profits than expected. they're behind by years in process, their fab is now more of a hindrance than an asset, and they just sold off their nand division (and did 3 rounds of layoffs earlier). they're also reportedly looking for a new ceo. and they don't seem to be buying euv from asml...

ie: their (many) problems look to be worsening and they have no real solutions.

 

[My Spot]

lolz @ talking shit incessantly (ie: the rant elsewhere that led to me tagging you here) and then bringing up ignore lists.

He probably has half the WR on ignore. Dude is in his 30s and still in community college.

 

[Drain Bamage]

it's not just lower profits than expected. they're behind by years in process, their fab is now more of a hindrance than an asset, and they just sold off their nand division (and did 3 rounds of layoffs earlier). they're also reportedly looking for a new ceo. and they don't seem to be buying euv from asml...

ie: their (many) problems look to be worsening and they have no real solutions.

Do you want Intel to fail?

 

[Madmick]

AMD Reaches Highest CPU Market Share Since 2007, Q3 2020 Report (Updated)

AMD shared the recent Mercury Research CPU market share results, giving us some insight into its gains in the third quarter of 2020. The headline news is that AMD has reached its highest overall market share since 2007 and has its highest desktop PC share since 2013. In terms of the client x86 market, AMD took its highest amount of share since Q2 2011.

Here are the bullet points from AMD, and we have segment-by-segment breakdowns below, including historical data:

• AMD overall x86 CPU share was 22.4%, an increase of 4.1 share points quarter over quarter (QoQ) and 6.3 share points year over year (YoY): Highest share since Q4 2007

• AMD desktop x86 share, excluding IoT, was 20.1%, an increase of 0.9 share points QoQ, and 2.1 share points YoY: AMD desktop share has grown over 12 consecutive quarters: Highest since Q4 2013

• AMD notebook x86 share, excluding IoT, was 20.2%, an increase of 0.3 share points QoQ, and 5.5 share points YoY: AMD notebook share has grown over 12 consecutive quarters: This is a new record for AMD x86 notebook share, eclipsing the previous high of 19.9% set in Q2 2020

• AMD client x86 share, excluding IoT, was 20.2%, an increase of 0.5 share points QoQ, and 4.3 share points YoY: Highest since Q2 2011

80% market share. Squeal like a pig, Intel!

 

[rob mafia]

AMD Reaches Highest CPU Market Share Since 2007, Q3 2020 Report (Updated)

80% market share. Squeal like a pig, Intel!

assuming this is sarcastic, lolz @ trying to downplay going from ~0 - 20+% share this quickly, and with the wafer constraints they've had.

same article:

The report comes on the heels of AMD's stellar financial results that pointed towards such amazing growth. It also comes after Intel's recent disappointing earnings report –– particularly in terms of Intel's desktop PC processor sales.

But AMD's share gains certainly aren't limited to the desktop PC segment; the company is on a full-court press that sees it gaining share from Intel in every segment that it competes in.

 

[Madmick]

assuming this is sarcastic, lolz @ trying to downplay going from ~0 - 20+% share this quickly...

They went from ~0 to 20% "this quickly"? LMFAO, how quickly is that? When did they have 0% share?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-vs-amd-reviewing-rivalry-160718187.html

Mercury Research puts AMD's share of desktop processors in the third quarter of 2019 at 18%, an increase of 5% year-over-year.

Q3 2016 = 9.1%
Q3 2017 = 10.9%
Q3 2018 = 13.0%
Q3 2019 = 18.0%
Q3 2020 = 20.1%

You're welcome. You learned some shit, today.

Still waiting on that prediction date for when "Intel is fucked". It's been over a year, and you still won't ante up. Hell, we'll give you a 24-month range: 2 years. Tell the forum who has been mocking you for pages...in what 2 year period will Intel fold?

 

[rob mafia]

They went from ~0 to 20% "this quickly"? LMFAO, how quickly is that? When did they have 0% share?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-vs-amd-reviewing-rivalry-160718187.html

Q3 2016 = 9.1%
Q3 2017 = 10.9%
Q3 2018 = 13.0%
Q3 2019 = 18.0%
Q3 2020 = 20.1%

You're welcome. You learned some shit, today.

Still waiting on that prediction date for when "Intel is fucked". It's been over a year, and you still won't ante up. Hell, we'll give you a 24-month range: 2 years. Tell the forum who has been mocking you for pages...in what 2 year period will Intel fold?

lolz @ singling out desktop... for... some kind of reason?

their notebook share was single digits and their server share was 0 just a few years ago.

lolz @ pretending intel's only competitor is amd, btw. they're losing share to amd in x86 while x86 has to fend off arm/risc-v

for mocking me, it's weird how i've been right so far, eh? and profiting, too.

 

[Madmick]

Short-lived happiness for Zen 3? Intel Rocket Lake-S Core i9-11900K QS: up to 7% lead over the Ryzen 7 5800X and up to 33% over the Core i9-10900K

Initial single-core performance numbers from an Intel Rocket Lake-S Core i9-11900K QS indicate up to 33% higher scores than a Core i9-10900K and up to 7% more performance than an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X despite sub-optimal cooling. Also being leaked are clocks and power info of several ES variants including the Core i7-11700 ES1, Core i7-11700K ES2, and the Core i9-11900 ES2.

Single-core performance has traditionally been Intel's stronghold even till the recent Comet Lake generation. AMD's Zen 3 Vermeer changed all that with even the entry-level Ryzen 5 5600X beating the Core i9-10900K in most single-core tests and games. AMD's new-found hegemony, however, may be short-lived.

Core i9-11900K QS vs. Core i9-10900K and Ryzen 7 5800X
A few benchmark results of an alleged Core i9-11900K qualifying sample (QS) seem to have made their way online. According to numbers leaked by ChipHell forum member popboy139, the Core i9-11900K QS's single-core scores apparently give a tough run to its 8-core AMD competitor the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X.

We previously reported on the possibility of a Core i9-11900K attaining a 5 GHz boost and 700+ points in CPU-Z single. It looks like this Core i9-11900K QS could be that chip after all. According to popboy139's post, the Core i9-11900K QS scores 710 points in CPU-Z single, 1700 points in Cinebench R23 single, and 660 points in Cinebench R20 single.

In comparison, a Core i9-10900K scores 534 in CPU-Z single, 1,324 in Cinebench R23, and 532 points in Cinebench R20 single (numbers from @3DCenter_org). This makes the Core i9-11900K QS663 24-33% faster than the Comet Lake Core i9-10900K in single-core workloads.

Taking the Ryzen 7 5800X's scores (663 - CPU-Z single, 1,596-Cinebench R23 single, and 625 - Cinebench R20 single) into account, we find that this Rocket Lake-S QS part is about 5-7% faster depending on the test.

As opposed to engineering samples, qualifying samples come very close to the retail specifications. Therefore, we can expect similar or possibly slightly better scores in the retail units. The OP also notes that (from translation provided by @hrb0755) this sample was being run at a very high voltage and that the BIOS of the board was not perfect.

• i9-11900 and i7-11700K will support PCIe Gen 4
• B560 motherboards will support memory overclocking.
• The Core i7-11700 ES1 consumes about 120-130 W, which goes up to 150-160 W in AVX512.
• The Core i7-11700K ES2 consumes 160 W and there's a sample that can attain 5 GHz boost.
• The Core i9-11900 ES2 comes with XMP support and performs similar to a Core i9-9900K or a Core i7-10700K.

 

[PEB]

Short-lived happiness for Zen 3? Intel Rocket Lake-S Core i9-11900K QS: up to 7% lead over the Ryzen 7 5800X and up to 33% over the Core i9-10900K

For some reason they are still stuck at 14nm?


"Rocket Lake will be launched in 2021 in 14nm because Intel's 10nm still won't be good enough for a desktop CPU launch. That's going to come at a cost. For Rocket Lake, Intel is regressing from 10 cores, as seen in the current Core i9-10900K, back to eight cores.Nov 18, 2020"

 

[rob mafia]

For some reason they are still stuck at 14nm?


"Rocket Lake will be launched in 2021 in 14nm because Intel's 10nm still won't be good enough for a desktop CPU launch. That's going to come at a cost. For Rocket Lake, Intel is regressing from 10 cores, as seen in the current Core i9-10900K, back to eight cores.Nov 18, 2020"

they have no yields at 10nm, so they've actually started backporting to 14nm.

 

[Madmick]

For some reason they are still stuck at 14nm?

"Rocket Lake will be launched in 2021 in 14nm because Intel's 10nm still won't be good enough for a desktop CPU launch. That's going to come at a cost. For Rocket Lake, Intel is regressing from 10 cores, as seen in the current Core i9-10900K, back to eight cores.Nov 18, 2020"

That's old news. The fact they are achieving this performance at 14nm is astonishing, especially given the fact the 11700K comes with a max TVF boost on a single core at just 5.0 GHz (300 MHz less than the 10700K and 10900K). That's the first depression in turbos we've seen since Skylake, and this would seem to allay concerns about heat. It's destroying these other processors in Geekbench, too. Given, this is the next gen versus AMD's current gen, but the release dates of gens is a bit staggered now, and this ought to put Intel back in the driver's seat for gaming supremacy. The 12+ core AMD chips will still be most attractive to editors, but losing by 7%-9% in single core scores, and even more than that out to four cores. Good for Intel. The fact they are abandoning the 10+ core race indicates they know it's a losing proposition, but also one that doesn't matter to winning gaming dollars. They're focusing their efforts even if only for this single gen.

This is the best news for Intel to come out in...well, years. It portends that their delayed architecture could offer a market-shifting improvement to even what Ryzen has realized.

@Grenz is right. The question for this immediate generation, Rocket Lake, is really all about pricing.

 

[Clifford_Harris]

You fell for fake news.

That's old news. The fact they are achieving this performance at 14nm is astonishing, especially given the fact the 11700K comes with a max TVF boost on a single core at just 5.0 GHz (300 MHz less than the 10700K and 10900K). That's the first depression in turbos we've seen since Skylake, and this would seem to allay concerns about heat. It's destroying these other processors in Geekbench, too. Given, this is the next gen versus AMD's current gen, but the release dates of gens is a bit staggered now, and this ought to put Intel back in the driver's seat for gaming supremacy. The 12+ core AMD chips will still be most attractive to editors, but losing by 7%-9% in single core scores, and even more than that out to four cores, is fantastic for Intel. The fact they are abandoning the 10+ core race indicates they know it's a losing proposition, but also one that doesn't matter to winning gaming dollars. They're focusing their efforts even if only for this single gen.

This is the best news for Intel to come out in...well, years. It portends that their delayed architecture could offer a market-shifting improvement to even what Ryzen has realized.

@Grenz is right. The question for this immediate generation, Rocket Lake, is really all about pricing.

Wrong! Pricing doesn't mean anything. Intel is FUCKED, FUCKED I SAY.

 

[rob mafia]

Wrong! Pricing doesn't mean anything. Intel is FUCKED, FUCKED I SAY.

(also, re: @Madmick 's post)
i mean... just yesterday, an activist investor attempted a coup of sorts. so lolz @ every time someone tries to mock this... the timing's always extra lolworthy.

(loeb wants them to sell off their fab, divest a bunch of other segments/acquisitions, and perhaps seemed to want intel to stop making hardware, but this last part seems so retarded it was probably misreported by cnbc yesterday)

lolz@ ANYONE trying to argue that they're not fucked. ffs, they even were just begging for govt intervention. i stopped bumping the thread since it seemed to be beyond obvious and soccer kicking a horse skeleton.

also, AVX512 lolz.

IF the specs are legit AND they actually have yields, it could be a start. but i wouldn't hold my breath or bet on it. they already pulled this stunt, too (tiger lake?)...

honestly, the thing helping intel the most right now is tsm's bottleneck/sony bogarting more wafers, amd is crazybad supply constrained. even microsoft is sick of intel's shit and attempting to make their own on arm designs.

 

[PEB]

That's old news. The fact they are achieving this performance at 14nm is astonishing, especially given the fact the 11700K comes with a max TVF boost on a single core at just 5.0 GHz (300 MHz less than the 10700K and 10900K). That's the first depression in turbos we've seen since Skylake, and this would seem to allay concerns about heat. It's destroying these other processors in Geekbench, too. Given, this is the next gen versus AMD's current gen, but the release dates of gens is a bit staggered now, and this ought to put Intel back in the driver's seat for gaming supremacy. The 12+ core AMD chips will still be most attractive to editors, but losing by 7%-9% in single core scores, and even more than that out to four cores. Good for Intel. The fact they are abandoning the 10+ core race indicates they know it's a losing proposition, but also one that doesn't matter to winning gaming dollars. They're focusing their efforts even if only for this single gen.

This is the best news for Intel to come out in...well, years. It portends that their delayed architecture could offer a market-shifting improvement to even what Ryzen has realized.

@Grenz is right. The question for this immediate generation, Rocket Lake, is really all about pricing.

True I was just pointing out how they seem so out of touch right now I can only imaging the performance per watt and the heat this bad boy pumps out. I'm thinking of getting one to heat my house oil prices are climbing again.

 

[Madmick]

True I was just pointing out how they seem so out of touch right now I can only imaging the performance per watt and the heat this bad boy pumps out. I'm thinking of getting one to heat my house oil prices are climbing again.

I am befuddled by these speculations about runaway thermals. Where is this coming from? One can clearly see in these leaks that both the single core and all-core turbos are significantly lower for this generation versus Coffee Lake's refresh.

Additionally, if one is simply assuming a spike in power consumption from the increase in IPC performance alone, which is an imperfect assumption, the power limit for 11700K is 250W. The power limit for the 11900 is 224W. The power limit for the 10900K is 250W. The power limit for the 10700K is 229W.

 

[rob mafia]

TSMC To Produce Intel Core i3 CPUs on 5nm Process Node in 2H 2021, 3nm Mainstream & High-End CPUs Enter Mass Production in 2H 2022

TSMC's monopoly on the actual manufacture/fabrication of designs is nearly complete. Only Apple and Samsung will be left making their own chips, and Samsung has already fallen behind.

The Chinese upstarts, on the other hand, are still a joke outside the budget class, but they make frightening gains with each passing year.

"concession accepted" ?