Tech "intel's f-----"

[rob mafia]

LOL, don't overthink it, a resident hater is making a public fool of himself trying to complicate the easily, plainly graspable truth you've just laid out.

They just announced $19bn more new building in Germany two days ago. That brings up the total to $90bn in Europe alone (actually probably closer to $100bn, I'm just too lazy to add it up). That's in addition to the over $40bn they've spent expanding manufacturing in the USA.

imagine arguing for 3 years that they're fine because they have so much money to now arguing that they're fine because they're spending more money than they have/are making

YOU don't need to imagine.



the madmick way - argue relentlessly, even if you switch sides in the process.

 

[PEB]

imagine arguing for 3 years that they're fine because they have so much money to now arguing that they're fine because they're spending more money than they have/are making

YOU don't need to imagine.



the madmick way - argue relentlessly, even if you switch sides in the process.

What me worry about chip supplies an suppliers you must be a special kind of stupid. Now post another f-up meme s××thead.

"

SHIPPINGCRUISE SHIPSPORTSSHIPBUILDINGDEFENSEACCIDENTSPIRACY


China's already in operation Type 002 aircraft carrier of People's Liberation Army Navy. Photo by Tyg728, via Wikimedia. Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0/CC BY-SA 4.0

Chinese Aircraft Carrier Sails Through Taiwan Strait Hours Before Biden-Xi Call
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By Yimou Lee

TAIPEI, March 18 (Reuters) – A Chinese aircraft carrier sailed through the sensitive Taiwan Strait on Friday, Taiwan’s Defence Ministry said, just hours before the Chinese and U.S. presidents were due to talk.

China claims democratically ruled Taiwan as its own territory, and has over the past two years stepped up its military activity near the island to assert its sovereignty claims, alarming Taipei and Washington.

A source with direct knowledge of the matter, who was not authorised to speak to the media and spoke on condition of anonymity, told Reuters the carrier Shandong sailed close to the Taiwan-controlled island of Kinmen, which sits directly opposite the Chinese city of Xiamen.

“Around 10:30 a.m. the CV-17 appeared around 30 nautical miles to the southwest of Kinmen, and was photographed by a passenger on a civilian flight,” the source said, referring to the Shandong’s official service number.

The USS Ralph Johnson, an Arleigh Burke guided missile destroyer, shadowed the carrier at least partly on its route. The Shandong did not have aircraft on its deck and sailed north through the strait, the source added.

Taiwan also sent warships to keep an eye on the situation, the source said.

Taiwan’s Defence Ministry, in a brief statement, confirmed the passage of the Shandong but gave no details other than to say its forces have a “full grasp” of what China’s ships and aircraft do in the Taiwan Strait.

U.S. Navy spokesperson Lt. Mark Langford said the Ralph Johnson had “conducted a routine Taiwan Strait transit March 17 (local time) through international waters in accordance with international law”. He did not elaborate.

Chinese Foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian referred questions to the Defence Ministry – which did not respond to a request for comment – but said the Shandong has a “routine training schedule”.

“We should not associate this with the communication between the heads of state of China and the United States. You may think it is too sensitive. What is sensitive is you, not the Taiwan Strait,” Zhao told reporters in Beijing."

 

[rob mafia]

What me worry about chip supplies an suppliers you must be a special kind of stupid. Now post another f-up meme s××thead.

"

SHIPPINGCRUISE SHIPSPORTSSHIPBUILDINGDEFENSEACCIDENTSPIRACY


China's already in operation Type 002 aircraft carrier of People's Liberation Army Navy. Photo by Tyg728, via Wikimedia. Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0/CC BY-SA 4.0

Chinese Aircraft Carrier Sails Through Taiwan Strait Hours Before Biden-Xi Call
Reuters
Total Views: 6
March 18, 2022
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By Yimou Lee

TAIPEI, March 18 (Reuters) – A Chinese aircraft carrier sailed through the sensitive Taiwan Strait on Friday, Taiwan’s Defence Ministry said, just hours before the Chinese and U.S. presidents were due to talk.

China claims democratically ruled Taiwan as its own territory, and has over the past two years stepped up its military activity near the island to assert its sovereignty claims, alarming Taipei and Washington.

A source with direct knowledge of the matter, who was not authorised to speak to the media and spoke on condition of anonymity, told Reuters the carrier Shandong sailed close to the Taiwan-controlled island of Kinmen, which sits directly opposite the Chinese city of Xiamen.

“Around 10:30 a.m. the CV-17 appeared around 30 nautical miles to the southwest of Kinmen, and was photographed by a passenger on a civilian flight,” the source said, referring to the Shandong’s official service number.

The USS Ralph Johnson, an Arleigh Burke guided missile destroyer, shadowed the carrier at least partly on its route. The Shandong did not have aircraft on its deck and sailed north through the strait, the source added.

Taiwan also sent warships to keep an eye on the situation, the source said.

Taiwan’s Defence Ministry, in a brief statement, confirmed the passage of the Shandong but gave no details other than to say its forces have a “full grasp” of what China’s ships and aircraft do in the Taiwan Strait.

U.S. Navy spokesperson Lt. Mark Langford said the Ralph Johnson had “conducted a routine Taiwan Strait transit March 17 (local time) through international waters in accordance with international law”. He did not elaborate.

Chinese Foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian referred questions to the Defence Ministry – which did not respond to a request for comment – but said the Shandong has a “routine training schedule”.

“We should not associate this with the communication between the heads of state of China and the United States. You may think it is too sensitive. What is sensitive is you, not the Taiwan Strait,” Zhao told reporters in Beijing."

this clown pretends to be oblivious as to why i call him a wumao.

a one-liner that's broken english, ad-hom, and gibberish... and then more anti-taiwan copypata fud...

about a carrier with no aircraft that was shadowed by an american destroyer (in other words, an article he didn't even read). yup, terrifying.



worst poster of sherdog.

 

[PEB]

this clown pretends to be oblivious as to why i call him a wumao.

a one-liner that's broken english, ad-hom, and gibberish... and then more anti-taiwan copypata fud...

about a carrier with no aircraft that was shadowed by an american destroyer (in other words, an article he didn't even read). yup, terrifying.



worst poster of sherdog.

I guess you missed Madmick post about you lol. He was on point about your trolling.

"LOL, don't overthink it, a resident hater is making a public fool of himself trying to complicate the easily, plainly graspable truth you've just laid out."

 

[rob mafia]

I guess you missed Madmick post about you lol. He was on point about your trolling.

"LOL, don't overthink it, a resident hater is making a public fool of himself trying to complicate the easily, plainly graspable truth you've just laid out."

yeah, that might mean something if intel hasn't been shrinking while literally every other semiconductor company has thrived (and generally doubled)... and you know, intel being in the red and publicly begging for money.

sorry the facts got in the way of your (plural) bullshit.

and re: madmick, not a clue why you'd bring him up... not only does he also think you're an idiot, but his argument is now a perfect 180/contradiction of itself.

 

[PEB]

yeah, that might mean something if intel hasn't been shrinking while literally every other semiconductor company has thrived (and generally doubled)... and you know, intel being in the red and publicly begging for money.

sorry the facts got in the way of your (plural) bullshit.

and re: madmick, not a clue why you'd bring him up... not only does he also think you're an idiot, but his argument is now a perfect 180/contradiction of itself.

It took you a while to come up with your witty still deflection reply without any real explanation. What happens to US supply if China bombs Taiwan? Is China racist now? If you had even a microscopic understanding of supply chains you would know you don't put all your eggs in one basket. What no meme this time? Rob you're dropping the ball.

 

[rob mafia]

It took you a while to come up with your witty still deflection reply without any real explanation. What happens to US supply if China bombs Taiwan? Is China racist now? If you had even a microscopic understanding of supply chains you would know you don't put all your eggs in one basket. What no meme this time? Rob you're dropping the ball.

hurr durr, it's as if tsmc AND samsung are building fabs in the usa (and europe. and japan...), or something.

hurr durr, it's as if that was stated about 400 times now.

lolz @ supply chains. you were just sucking apple's dick a week ago.

lolzors @ china bombing taiwan. china WANTS taiwan... why would they bomb it? smart! BIG BRAIN SHIT

'WHAT IF CHINA BOMBS INTEL!? ZOMG!?! SUPPLY CHAINS!'

uberlolz @ wumao desperation. worst. poster. ever.

 

[PEB]

hurr durr, it's as if tsmc AND samsung are building fabs in the usa (and europe. and japan...), or something.

hurr durr, it's as if that was stated about 400 times now.

lolz @ supply chains. you were just sucking apple's dick a week ago.

lolzors @ china bombing taiwan. china WANTS taiwan... why would they bomb it? smart! BIG BRAIN SHIT

'WHAT IF CHINA BOMBS INTEL!? ZOMG!?! SUPPLY CHAINS!'

uberlolz @ wumao desperation. worst. poster. ever.

You're such a sh"t poster you don't see that fact. Now play the racist card idiot.

"
A shortage of auto chips has exposed TSMC’s key role in the supply chain

By
Alan Crawford,

Jarrell Dillard,

Helene Fouquet, and

Isabel Reynolds

January 25, 2021, 4:06 PM EST
As China pushes the world to avoid official dealings with Taiwan, leaders across the globe are realizing just how dependent they’ve become on the island democracy.

Taiwan, which China regards as a province, is being courted for its capacity to make leading-edge computer chips. That’s mostly down to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the world’s largest foundry and go-to producer of chips for Apple Inc. smartphones, artificial intelligence and high-performance computing.
Taiwan’s role in the world economy largely existed below the radar, until it came to recent prominence as the auto industry suffered shortfalls in chips used for everything from parking sensors to reducing emissions. With carmakers including Germany’s Volkswagen AG, Ford Motor Co. of the U.S. and Japan’s Toyota Motor Corp. forced to halt production and idle plants, Taiwan’s importance has suddenly become too big to ignore.

U.S., European and Japanese automakers are lobbying their governments for help, with Taiwan and TSMC being asked to step in. Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Emmanuel Macron discussed the potential for shortages last year and agreed on the need to accelerate Europe’s push to develop its own chip industry, according to a French official with knowledge of the matter.

The auto industry’s pleas illustrate how TSMC’s chip-making skills have handed Taiwan political and economic leverage in a world where technology is being enlisted in the great power rivalry between the U.S. and China -- a standoff unlikely to ease under the administration of Joe Biden.

Taiwan’s grip on the semiconductor business -- despite being under constant threat of invasion by Beijing -- also represents a choke point in the global supply chain that’s giving new urgency to plans from Tokyo to Washington and Beijing to increase self-reliance.

By dominating the U.S.-developed model of outsourcing chip manufacture, Taiwan “is potentially the most critical single point of failure in the entire semiconductor value chain,” said Jan-Peter Kleinhans, director of the technology and geopolitics project at Berlin-based think tank Stiftung Neue Verantwortung.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...rously-dependent-on-taiwan-for-semiconductors

 

[rob mafia]

You're such a sh"t poster you don't see that fact. Now play the racist card idiot.

"
A shortage of auto chips has exposed TSMC’s key role in the supply chain

By
Alan Crawford,

Jarrell Dillard,

Helene Fouquet, and

Isabel Reynolds

January 25, 2021, 4:06 PM EST
As China pushes the world to avoid official dealings with Taiwan, leaders across the globe are realizing just how dependent they’ve become on the island democracy.

Taiwan, which China regards as a province, is being courted for its capacity to make leading-edge computer chips. That’s mostly down to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the world’s largest foundry and go-to producer of chips for Apple Inc. smartphones, artificial intelligence and high-performance computing.
Taiwan’s role in the world economy largely existed below the radar, until it came to recent prominence as the auto industry suffered shortfalls in chips used for everything from parking sensors to reducing emissions. With carmakers including Germany’s Volkswagen AG, Ford Motor Co. of the U.S. and Japan’s Toyota Motor Corp. forced to halt production and idle plants, Taiwan’s importance has suddenly become too big to ignore.

U.S., European and Japanese automakers are lobbying their governments for help, with Taiwan and TSMC being asked to step in. Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Emmanuel Macron discussed the potential for shortages last year and agreed on the need to accelerate Europe’s push to develop its own chip industry, according to a French official with knowledge of the matter.

The auto industry’s pleas illustrate how TSMC’s chip-making skills have handed Taiwan political and economic leverage in a world where technology is being enlisted in the great power rivalry between the U.S. and China -- a standoff unlikely to ease under the administration of Joe Biden.

Taiwan’s grip on the semiconductor business -- despite being under constant threat of invasion by Beijing -- also represents a choke point in the global supply chain that’s giving new urgency to plans from Tokyo to Washington and Beijing to increase self-reliance.

By dominating the U.S.-developed model of outsourcing chip manufacture, Taiwan “is potentially the most critical single point of failure in the entire semiconductor value chain,” said Jan-Peter Kleinhans, director of the technology and geopolitics project at Berlin-based think tank Stiftung Neue Verantwortung.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...rously-dependent-on-taiwan-for-semiconductors

lolwut? what racist card? and lolz @ this loooooooooong debunked 1/2021 bs. ffs, the automakers want a JIT inventory and moronically canceled their orders... then tried to uncancel them, months later. that's the "chip shortage" in a nutshell. zero shortage. ffs, how is it a shortage when the fabs pumped out MORE "chips?" fucking clown.

hey, remember when amd/nvidia/tsm/etc had a shortage of chips and couldn't make money?

...me, neither.




bonus hypocrisy points for calling anyone a shit poster while you're copypastaing spam like you're getting paid for it.

regardless, WE GET IT. YOU HATE TAIWAN.



edit: maybe you should make another clown shoes thread for how you're obsessed with taiwan that can be basically your own shitty, nonsensical livejournal like this and this - what is that, 120 posts in a row of just you spamming bs? wumaojournal.com

 

[PEB]

lolwut? what racist card? and lolz @ this loooooooooong debunked 1/2021 bs. ffs, the automakers want a JIT inventory and moronically canceled their orders... then tried to uncancel them, months later. that's the "chip shortage" in a nutshell. zero shortage. ffs, how is it a shortage when the fabs pumped out MORE "chips?" fucking clown.

hey, remember when amd/nvidia/tsm/etc had a shortage of chips and couldn't make money?

...me, neither.




bonus hypocrisy points for calling anyone a shit poster while you're copypastaing spam like you're getting paid for it.

regardless, WE GET IT. YOU HATE TAIWAN.



edit: maybe you should make another clown shoes thread for how you're obsessed with taiwan that can be basically your own shitty, nonsensical livejournal like this and this - what is that, 120 posts in a row of just you spamming bs? wumaojournal.com

You're the clown to end all clowns yeah fake news dimwit. Keep spouting your nonsense 120 plus times in a row because you are a cancer.

 

[rob mafia]

You're the clown to end all clowns yeah fake news dimwit. Keep spouting your nonsense 120 plus times in a row because you are a cancer.

dat idiocy.

2/19/2022 https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...untain-the-reason-is-too-familiar-182056.html

cool, so there it is. and that's on taiwan because... it's where global foundries is, amirite? or renesas? that's gotta be tsmc, no?




also, when i said:

ffs, the automakers want a JIT inventory and moronically canceled their orders... then tried to uncancel them

i didn't think i'd actually need to point out that they couldn't just magically undo the canceling. but alas, here we are. yes, they were unable to turn back time and uncancel the orders. and yes, other customers that bought the automakers would-be wafers... didn't time travel and lose them, either.




forever wumao.

MUST...BLAME...TAIWAN...AT ALL COSTS! who cares if facts are absent!


edit: the funniest part about your burning hatred of taiwan... is that your mancrush, despite running his own fab, buys from tsmc. it's weird to see you post so much spam that's e-fellating patty while spamming so much anti-taiwan fud. like... pick one. lolz.

 

[rob mafia]

(re: cnbc interviews and congress testimony)

the funniest part about watching patty beg for govtbucks seemingly every fucking day while promising so much expansion...

is that they barely have any euv and even if they try to set up these new "shells," they literally can't get enough euv to actually fill them. so patty's either a con man or a clown.

i bet intel wishes they used some of that ridiculous buyback money for euv, instead. who could have foreseen that blowing so much money into buybacks wasn't a way to fix their fabs?

meanwhile, tsm and samsung have ~90% of the world's euv machines. and intel has promises, hope, and dreams. and ~20 euv machines by eoy 2023 (up from ~12 now). vs ~133 for tsm and ~54 for samsung.

but hey, amd is in the rearview mirror of the clown car!

 

[PEB]

(re: cnbc interviews and congress testimony)

the funniest part about watching patty beg for govtbucks seemingly every fucking day while promising so much expansion...

is that they barely have any euv and even if they try to set up these new "shells," they literally can't get enough euv to actually fill them. so patty's either a con man or a clown.

i bet intel wishes they used some of that ridiculous buyback money for euv, instead. who could have foreseen that blowing so much money into buybacks wasn't a way to fix their fabs?

meanwhile, tsm and samsung have ~90% of the world's euv machines. and intel has promises, hope, and dreams. and ~20 euv machines by eoy 2023 (up from ~12 now). vs ~133 for tsm and ~54 for samsung.

but hey, amd is in the rearview mirror of the clown car!

You're ether a brain dead talking head for TMSC or you put money in AMD stock. I don't care were the government puts its money as long as its to shore up supply chains. Intel the only one who is stepping up to fix this troll. IBM, Globalfoundries, Apple could look to this heck even TSMC but they need to do it here not somewhere that could be tied up in a war. TSMC looking for US cash to I hear.

"
TAIPEI – The announcement by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC) last week to build a fab in the United States was very likely motivated by a number of political factors, according to people with knowledge of the matter. It’s a move that could haunt TSMC and its future."

"On May 15, the company announced it will build a 5nm fab in the U.S. state of Arizona with support from that state and the U.S. federal government. Hours after the TSMC news broke, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced new restrictions on TSMC’s second-largest customer, HiSilicon of China. People say the two events were related to the issue of U.S. export control.

On May 15, the company announced it will build a 5nm fab in the U.S. state of Arizona with support from that state and the U.S. federal government. Hours after the TSMC news broke, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced new restrictions on TSMC’s second-largest customer, HiSilicon of China. People say the two events were related to the issue of U.S. export control."

Where your fake dribble about TSMC seeking money from Arizona an US government? Yes older article but I was curious you go ahead an shoot thos down but it shows TSMC too looking to uncle Sam.

 

[rob mafia]

You're ether a brain dead talking head for TMSC or you put money in AMD stock. I don't care were the government puts its money as long as its to shore up supply chains. Intel the only one who is stepping up to fix this troll. IBM, Globalfoundries, Apple could look to this heck even TSMC but they need to do it here not somewhere that could be tied up in a war. TSMC looking for US cash to I hear.

"
TAIPEI – The announcement by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC) last week to build a fab in the United States was very likely motivated by a number of political factors, according to people with knowledge of the matter. It’s a move that could haunt TSMC and its future."

"On May 15, the company announced it will build a 5nm fab in the U.S. state of Arizona with support from that state and the U.S. federal government. Hours after the TSMC news broke, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced new restrictions on TSMC’s second-largest customer, HiSilicon of China. People say the two events were related to the issue of U.S. export control.

On May 15, the company announced it will build a 5nm fab in the U.S. state of Arizona with support from that state and the U.S. federal government. Hours after the TSMC news broke, the U.S. Department of Commerce announced new restrictions on TSMC’s second-largest customer, HiSilicon of China. People say the two events were related to the issue of U.S. export control."

Where your fake dribble about TSMC seeking money from Arizona an US government? Yes older article but I was curious you go ahead an shoot thos down but it shows TSMC too looking to uncle Sam.

lolz @ spamming ancient news as if it disproves patty begging for taxpayer money... again. which he's done dozens of times this year. how many times has tsmc begged for govbucks?

and lolz @ talking shit while unable to refute a single fucking thing. intel factually does not have the euv for their expansion plans and they factually can't get euv in time for them. but hurr durr, you hate taiwan and that obviously trumps everything, hurr durr!

 

[PEB]

Don't do it Nvidia Intel's dying according to Rob Mafia.

"
Rivals Nvidia and Intel Might Join Forces To End Chip Shortage
Nvidia and Intel may come together to manufacture more chips as shortages persists.

"
But economics doesn't typically work like that. In the words of renowned British economist Charles Robbins, "Humans want what they can't have."

Abundance and scarcity are two sides of the same coin. Societies typically deal with scarcity by increasing supply.

And if there's one thing that's dominated news headlines when it comes to scarcity its chips or semiconductors."

"Makers of semiconductors or chip manufacturers have been grappling with the impact of global supply chain shortages that have led to a dearth of chips that are used in everything from cars to home appliances for nearly two years."

"
Everyone from automakers like Ford (F) - Get Ford Motor Company Report and General Motors (GM) - Get General Motors Company Report, one of the hardest-hit sectors due to these chip shortages to tech companies like Apple (AAPL) - Get Apple Inc. Report, which has started producing its own chips, to semiconductor giants; are trying to find ways around this conundrum.

And Nvidia (NVDA) - Get NVIDIA Corporation Report the largest chip company in America by market value is open to exploring a deal with rival chipmaker Intel (INTC) - Get Intel Corporation Report as it seeks to expand and diversify its supply base."

I predict Samsung, IBM and Globalfoundries could join it.

https://www.thestreet.com/.amp/tech...-intel-might-join-forces-to-end-chip-shortage

"Nvidia Chief Executive Officer Jensen Huang said he wants to diversify his company’s suppliers as much as possible and will consider working with Intel. Nvidia currently uses Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. and Samsung Electronics Co to build its products."

"
We’re very open-minded to considering Intel,” Huang said Wednesday in an online company event. “Foundry discussions take a long time. It’s not just about desire. We’re not buying milk here.”

Intel jumped to a session high on the news. CEO Pat Gelsinger announced last year that the chipmaker, once the world’s technical leader, would seek to construct new factories and manufacture products for others, even rivals.

Huang said Intel’s effort to compete with the two Asian companies as a foundry operator will require more than building plants, it will have to fundamentally change its culture and operations.

“Being a foundry at the caliber of TSMC is not for the faint-hearted,” he added. “TSMC dances with the operations of 300 companies worldwide.”

Intel will need to learn to attune itself to the way that customers want to work, which hasn’t been part of the company’s experience as it makes chips of its own design, Huang said. Nonetheless, moving into the business of being an outsource manufacturer is something that Intel has to do, he said."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/24/nvidia-and-intel-lead-rally-in-semiconductor-stocks-.html

 

[rob mafia]

Don't do it Nvidia Intel's dying according to Rob Mafia.

"
Rivals Nvidia and Intel Might Join Forces To End Chip Shortage
Nvidia and Intel may come together to manufacture more chips as shortages persists.

"
But economics doesn't typically work like that. In the words of renowned British economist Charles Robbins, "Humans want what they can't have."

Abundance and scarcity are two sides of the same coin. Societies typically deal with scarcity by increasing supply.

And if there's one thing that's dominated news headlines when it comes to scarcity its chips or semiconductors."

"Makers of semiconductors or chip manufacturers have been grappling with the impact of global supply chain shortages that have led to a dearth of chips that are used in everything from cars to home appliances for nearly two years."

"
Everyone from automakers like Ford (F) - Get Ford Motor Company Report and General Motors (GM) - Get General Motors Company Report, one of the hardest-hit sectors due to these chip shortages to tech companies like Apple (AAPL) - Get Apple Inc. Report, which has started producing its own chips, to semiconductor giants; are trying to find ways around this conundrum.

And Nvidia (NVDA) - Get NVIDIA Corporation Report the largest chip company in America by market value is open to exploring a deal with rival chipmaker Intel (INTC) - Get Intel Corporation Report as it seeks to expand and diversify its supply base."

I predict Samsung, IBM and Globalfoundries could join it.

https://www.thestreet.com/.amp/tech...-intel-might-join-forces-to-end-chip-shortage

"Nvidia Chief Executive Officer Jensen Huang said he wants to diversify his company’s suppliers as much as possible and will consider working with Intel. Nvidia currently uses Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. and Samsung Electronics Co to build its products."

"
We’re very open-minded to considering Intel,” Huang said Wednesday in an online company event. “Foundry discussions take a long time. It’s not just about desire. We’re not buying milk here.”

Intel jumped to a session high on the news. CEO Pat Gelsinger announced last year that the chipmaker, once the world’s technical leader, would seek to construct new factories and manufacture products for others, even rivals.

Huang said Intel’s effort to compete with the two Asian companies as a foundry operator will require more than building plants, it will have to fundamentally change its culture and operations.

“Being a foundry at the caliber of TSMC is not for the faint-hearted,” he added. “TSMC dances with the operations of 300 companies worldwide.”

Intel will need to learn to attune itself to the way that customers want to work, which hasn’t been part of the company’s experience as it makes chips of its own design, Huang said. Nonetheless, moving into the business of being an outsource manufacturer is something that Intel has to do, he said."

...you would believe this, wouldn't you?

nvidia went from tsmc to samsung... back to tsmc, and were unhappy with samsung's yields.

they're TOTALLY going to make not only the same mistake, but on steroids, and go to an even worse fab with a worse record that's now also a competitor of theirs... and that lack the euv machines necessary for nvidia's products.

i'd be so stoked if nvidia leaves tsmc for intel. i'd go all-in on amd, leveraged to the tits.

 

[PEB]

...you would believe this, wouldn't you?

nvidia went from tsmc to samsung... back to tsmc, and were unhappy with samsung's yields.

they're TOTALLY going to make not only the same mistake, but on steroids, and go to an even worse fab with a worse record that's now also a competitor of theirs... and that lack the euv machines necessary for nvidia's products.

i'd be so stoked if nvidia leaves tsmc for intel. i'd go all-in on amd, leveraged to the tits.

You hate to be wrong but you are way wrong Intel already making 10nm chips in Oregon and is almost completely installed the robotics and the machinery from ASML to make 7nm chips.

"ASML's most advanced machines in current commercial production, known as EUV lithography systems because of the "Extreme Ultraviolet" light waves they use to map out the circuitry of computer chips, are as big as a bus and cost around $150 million each."

"ASML said it has received orders for five prototypes of the next iteration of the system, known as "High NA" EUV machines, which will have a different optical system with a higher numerical aperture, will be even larger, and cost around $300 million each."

If China takes over Taiwan the situation could be far worst.
"Recognizing the strategic importance of EUV machines, and under pressure from the United States, in November 2019, the Dutch government prevented ASML from shipping an EUV machine to China. Related news coverage painted ASML as a pawn in the U.S.-China trade war, but the Dutch decision was about so much more. There are many strategically important technologies in the development pipeline that are potentially dangerous or destabilizing. They include artificial intelligence, autonomous weapons systems, hypersonic missiles, cyberweapons, surveillance tools, and the latest generation of nuclear weapons. These technologies, and many others, require state-of-the-art chips to develop and deploy. Keeping these chips away from the Chinese government, or those acting on its behalf, can pre-empt many worst-case human rights and security scenarios in the coming decades. The Chinese government cannot engage in techno-authoritarianism or arms races if it lacks advanced chips."

https://www.brookings.edu/techstrea...e-at-the-center-of-chinese-dual-use-concerns/

 

[rob mafia]

You hate to be wrong but you are way wrong Intel already making 10nm chips in Oregon and is almost completely installed the robotics and the machinery from ASML to make 7nm chips.

lolz!

10nm isn't good enough for nvidia, genius.

and intel factually does not have enough euv machines... nor will they. but i already said that, so...

"ASML's most advanced machines in current commercial production, known as EUV lithography systems because of the "Extreme Ultraviolet" light waves they use to map out the circuitry of computer chips, are as big as a bus and cost around $150 million each."

"ASML said it has received orders for five prototypes of the next iteration of the system, known as "High NA" EUV machines, which will have a different optical system with a higher numerical aperture, will be even larger, and cost around $300 million each."

If China takes over Taiwan the situation could be far worst.
"Recognizing the strategic importance of EUV machines, and under pressure from the United States, in November 2019, the Dutch government prevented ASML from shipping an EUV machine to China. Related news coverage painted ASML as a pawn in the U.S.-China trade war, but the Dutch decision was about so much more. There are many strategically important technologies in the development pipeline that are potentially dangerous or destabilizing. They include artificial intelligence, autonomous weapons systems, hypersonic missiles, cyberweapons, surveillance tools, and the latest generation of nuclear weapons. These technologies, and many others, require state-of-the-art chips to develop and deploy. Keeping these chips away from the Chinese government, or those acting on its behalf, can pre-empt many worst-case human rights and security scenarios in the coming decades. The Chinese government cannot engage in techno-authoritarianism or arms races if it lacks advanced chips."

https://www.brookings.edu/techstrea...e-at-the-center-of-chinese-dual-use-concerns/

wow, more anti-taiwan fud... who could have foreseen this from you? wumao gotta wumao

again,

I GET IT. YOU HATE TAIWAN. YOU'RE OBSESSED WITH TAIWAN. WE KNOW.

ffs.

 

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lolz!

10nm isn't good enough for nvidia, genius.

and intel factually does not have enough euv machines... nor will they. but i already said that, so...



wow, more anti-taiwan fud... who could have foreseen this from you? wumao gotta wumao

again,

I GET IT. YOU HATE TAIWAN. YOU'RE OBSESSED WITH TAIWAN. WE KNOW.

Thanks to China's aggressive tactics towards Taiwan Taiwanese engineers have been reached out to by Intel to move to the US. Intel not missing a beat by going after key engineers on advanced chip manufacturing.

It seem very positive sign that Taiwan engineers are interested in moving to the US as the question of Taiwan’s stability comes into question. But go ahead say I'm racist to Taiwanese people.

China wants to control the destiny of the world's electronics an Russia an them are both working to that end. Funny meme time.

 

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Thanks to China's aggressive tactics towards Taiwan Taiwanese engineers have been reached out to by Intel to move to the US. Intel not missing a beat by going after key engineers on advanced chip manufacturing.

It seem very positive sign that Taiwan engineers are interested in moving to the US as the question of Taiwan’s stability comes into question. But go ahead say I'm racist to Taiwanese people.

China wants to control the destiny of the world's electronics an Russia an them are both working to that end. Funny meme time.

cool story, that'll magically fix intel's lack of euv!

oh, wait.