Indoctrination through public schooling

[MVelsor]

share both your names with the kids

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No judgment on those who do, but... Absolutely Not.

 

[Wet Blanket]

The Dunning-Kruger-effect will sadly always ensure though that those who're not exactly too bright (or too educated) think of themselves as being more intelligent...

It has been my experience that people who are afraid of change or inward criticism will want to maintain the status quo and therefore end up being right wing conservative types.

 

[MVelsor]

 

[TheLinguist]

I'll let the other people that are pissed off after finding out about it follow up with the superintendent. I was fine with speaking my mind. Secondly, my kid is out of that school as of Friday. Taking a job for a lapse of judgment is a serious penalty.

That’s not a lapse of judgement imo, that’s the type of cancer within our society that needs to be eliminated

 

[Iron Nick]

It has been my experience that people who are afraid of change or inward criticism will want to maintain the status quo and therefore end up being right wing conservative types.

Basically, yes.

Ironically, these people also tend to believe that all people with other political beliefs are like the worst examples they've heard of, while simultaneously complaining about others being too black and white in their judgement..

 

[Rational Poster]

That's too far sir.

 

[Wet Blanket]

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No judgment on those who do, but... Absolutely Not.

Why not? Would you let your wife keep her name?

I know people who changed their last names to a new one that was a mashup of both of their originals when they got married. Cool idea imo.

 

[luckyshot]

They are getting one side on todays issues just like they were teaching rosy history before the door hasnt slammed shut on biased bullshit its swung through the other direction. Which makes sense since teachers are like 96% liberal and 99% female.

Lol, first of all, don't be mad that women and liberals generally value education more than men and conservatives do and are willing to take jobs making less money than they could in the private sector because they also value the collective public good more than conservatives do.

Secondly, values such as empathy, tolerance, and inclusion are not "biased bullshit," they are the bedrock of a functioning Democracy. If you don't like it, send your kid to private school. Or pull him out and home school him in whatever myopic worldview you want.

Personally, I am fairly conservative in my personal morality. I was raised Catholic, and I still seek to follow the Gospel teachings. But I am glad my kids are in public school so they can be exposed to different people and ideas and understand that not everyone thinks like I do.

When they come home, I make sure to talk to them about God and what I believe. I take them to Church and pray with them at night. I talk to them about what I believe to be right and wrong and why. But I also talk to them about how not everyone agrees on every issue.

It's called parenting. It's a difficult task, for sure, but doesn't seem to be impossible.

 

[cleetus]

What do you mean?

Parents should absolutely be the ones raising their kids and teaching them values.
If you feel threatened by a teacher suggesting to visit the website tolerance.org i just don't know anymore, sorry.

If you're locked down in a school for 6-8 hours a day with the same trash being thrown at you 180 days a year for 13 years, after believing that you are there to learn something, the pollution they are giving you will probably take hold.

What do you think a military boot camp is? Brainwashing. The schools are the same thing. Take a young person, indoctrinate them, and then it doesn't matter what's right and wrong. It worked for nazis, it worked for Boko Haram, and it sure as hell works for schools.

 

[WhiteMousse]

I was a pastor for seven years. I couldn't stomach it anymore.

And I'm telling you- you're all still in church. Different book maybe but you're all singing hymns

 

[Sketch]

Lol, first of all, don't be mad that women and liberals generally value education more than men and conservatives do and are willing to take jobs making less money than they could in the private sector because they also value the collective public good more than conservatives do.

Secondly, values such as empathy, tolerance, and inclusion are not "biased bullshit," they are the bedrock of a functioning Democracy. If you don't like it, send your kid to private school. Or pull him out and home school him in whatever myopic worldview you want.

Personally, I am fairly conservative in my personal morality. I was raised Catholic, and I still seek to follow the Gospel teachings. But I am glad my kids are in public school so they can be exposed to different people and ideas and understand that not everyone thinks like I do.

When they come home, I make sure to talk to them about God and what I believe. I take them to Church and pray with them at night. I talk to them about what I believe to be right and wrong and why. But I also talk to them about how not everyone agrees on every issue.

It's called parenting. It's a difficult task, for sure, but doesn't seem to be impossible.

 

[MVelsor]

Why not?

I've suffered the indignity of sex with women more times than I can remember. There was just no way in hell my baby boys (lost one to miscarriage) were going to be bestowed anything but their daddy's surname alone, man. It was just an instinctive decision that required little thought and got no resistance, so I'm content with that.

 

[DivineMind]

NOW, it's right in your face. NOW, the antifa horde and blm terrorists are left to destroy cities and given large parts of cities as safe spaces cordoned off by concrete barriers. NOW, killing cops and physically attacking anyone that isn't a leftist moron is en vogue.

At what point are you supposed to speak up? Or is that only for the terrorists?

You were supposed to speak up / care about schools being indoctrination camps and not teaching critical thinking... a long time ago. Not just because the teacher isn't on your "team" politically.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

naming a barren sheet of ice ‘Greenland’ doesnt make it green.

Not looking into the website in question but opting for simple word play doesn't mean you have a good point.

 

[deviake]

Nothing is more disgusting than making kids go to site called tolerance.org

From the About on the website:

https://www.tolerance.org/about

Our mission is to help teachers and schools educate children and youth to be active participants in a diverse democracy.

Teaching Tolerance provides free resources to educators—teachers, administrators, counselors and other practitioners—who work with children from kindergarten through high school. Educators use our materials to supplement the curriculum, to inform their practices, and to create civil and inclusive school communities where children are respected, valued and welcome participants.

Our program emphasizes social justice and anti-bias. The anti-bias approach encourages children and young people to challenge prejudice and learn how to be agents of change in their own lives. Our Social Justice Standards show how anti-bias education works through the four domains of identity, diversity, justice and action.

In its Declaration of Principles on Tolerance, UNESCO offers a definition of tolerance that most closely matches our philosophical use of the word:

Tolerance is respect, acceptance and appreciation of the rich diversity of our world's cultures, our forms of expression and ways of being human.

Tolerance is harmony in difference.

The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. used the Greek term "agape" to describe a universal love that "discovers the neighbor in every man it meets." The various disciplines concerned with human behavior have also offered a variety of adjectives: "pro-social," "democratic," "affiliative."

We are all of these, but we begin with a simple mission: to eradicate intolerance.

A project of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Teaching Tolerance was founded in 1991 to prevent the growth of hate. We began by publishing Teaching Tolerance magazine and producing films chronicling the modern civil rights movement. Today, our community includes more than 500,000 educators who read our magazine, screen our films, visit our website, participate in Mix It Up at Lunch Day, use our curriculum or participate in our social media community.

Our materials have won two Oscars, an Emmy and scores of honors. The project has been named a “Friend of the UN,” recognized by the Desmond Tutu Peace Foundation, and selected by President Clinton’s Initiative on Race as one of the nation’s “Promising Practices” to eradicate racism.

We view tolerance as a way of thinking and feeling—but most importantly, of acting—that gives us peace in our individuality, respect for those unlike us, the wisdom to discern humane values and the courage to act upon them.


Most nefarious thing I've ever seen

 

[deviake]

hombres

Speak american you bastard

 

[cleetus]

It's not "traditional". If you don't take your husband's last name and share both your names with the kids you are a commie terrorist trying to destroy 'Murca.

The people getting upset about this sort of thing are boomers that hate change and wonder why people don't wear suits when they fly anymore.

Go ahead and take your wife's last name then, that'd be so cool and woke! Make sure you change your first name to Cuck. Cuck Wokenstein.

 

[freakroor]

only fuckin idiots put their kids in public school. you reap what you sow.

 

[cleetus]

You were supposed to speak up / care about schools being indoctrination camps and not teaching critical thinking... a long time ago. Not just because the teacher isn't on your "team" politically.

*Guidance counselor. And how do you know what I've spoken up about in the past? The Pledge of Allegiance was another bone of contention when the kid's elementary school teacher "forgot" to do the Pledge for the 1st marking period. This is an ongoing problem with schools in general.

So yeah, I've spoken up in the past. Try a new angle to attack.

 

[DivineMind]

*Guidance counselor. And how do you know what I've spoken up about in the past? The Pledge of Allegiance was another bone of contention when the kid's elementary school teacher "forgot" to do the Pledge for the 1st marking period. This is an ongoing problem with schools in general.

So yeah, I've spoken up in the past. Try a new angle to attack.

I'm not really trying to accuse you of being a hypocrite. I'm responding more to your anger / incredulity. Schools have been indoctrination halls for the longest time.

Plus, if you taught your own kid how to think for him / herself, you wouldn't be bothered by a teacher giving their own opinions here and there.

And speaking up is different than doing something about it - ever petition the school board to change the curriculum to include critical thinking as a high priority?