Crime Incels: how online extremism is changing

panamaican said:
It's not really the same thing. The talk about overweight women are still beautiful is about how they perceive themselves. Their internal self-esteem. That they shouldn't value themselves based on their appearance. A fat guy can tell himself the same thing -- that his value isn't tied into how he looks. It would be the same thing.

As for the ratings thing - women are more relative in their thinking. So while a guy is going to judge each woman on her individual appearance, women are going to rate men relative to other men.

A guy sees a girl online and says "Would I fuck?", if the answer is yes then she's attractive, even if she isn't the most attractive. A woman sees a guy online and says "Is he more attractive than the last guy I looked it?" If the answer is yes, the new guy is "attractive" and the last guy isn't. If the answer is no then the new guy isn't attractive, only the last guy is.
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Well said, but can be summed up as: Men look for suitable mates, while women look for the MOST suitable mates.
 
The incel thing is another topic in the culture war, and like everything else the mainstream repeats the lines they've been given. "Men are sexist, this is men's fault, patriarchy".

When ONE THIRD of young men are incels and the online dating market discards everyone but the top 5-10%, society still comes up with reasons to shit on men.

"80+% of you can't get dates! What's wrong with you? Why are you defective and why can't you be like the top 10% or something?" <Lmaoo>
 
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Super_Nintendo said:
The incel thing is another of those topics in the culture war, and just like in every other topic the mainstream just repeats the lines they've been given. "Men are sexist, this is men's fault, the patriarchy".

When ONE THIRD of young men are incels and the online dating market discards everyone but the top 5-10%, society still comes up with reasons to shit on men.

"80+% of you can't get dates! What's wrong with you? Why are you defective and why can't you be like the top 10% or something?" <Lmaoo>
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Society solved this problem before, by using religion to enforce monogamy. Nearly every society on earth arrived at this solution independently, and then we just throw it away and think there won't be any consequences.... LOL
 
PBAC said:
guys tend to swipe on anyone on those things.

Actually, I don't really use Tinder anymore but my entire timeline is flooded with 10s and not by my own choice, to such an extent I question the validity of the profiles.

I'm not talking about matches btw just the profiles I am presented with
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I'm just explaining the incel mentality. It's not guys who can't get laid. It's guys who think they deserve 10s and those 10s should be waiting on them, cooking for them, doing all the cleaning. Nerdy gamers are getting laid. Incels are a different beast
 
D 1 Wrestler said:
I'm just explaining the incel mentality. It's not guys who can't get laid. It's guys who think they deserve 10s and those 10s should be waiting on them, cooking for them, doing all the cleaning. Nerdy gamers are getting laid. Incels are a different beast
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I know very little about how they function but I''ve read that they present themselves as gentlemen and consider themselves old fashioned in the modern swipe right for Chad culture. It's the Hikiko's I sympathize with more as they believe they are ugly and useless. A lot of them aren't ugly and in Japan, where they're most recognized, they teach themselves English just to hear from cultures that are different from their own. They seem like highly productive members of society being confined to the backrooms. It makes no sense, and then dating apps won't let these people interact either. That''s what dating apps are for. I think the same thing is happening with Incells but they are probably prouder that the standard Hiki. Dating apps are also fucking with people's minds, and I mean literally and directly.
 
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djacobox372 said:
Society solved this problem before, by using religion to enforce monogamy. Nearly every society on earth arrived at this solution independently, and then we just throw it away and think there won't be any consequences.... LOL
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Sshh! It's illegal to promote monogamy in woke culture! Marriage is an oppressive institution and anti-feminist! Onlyfans and abortions for all!
 
djacobox372 said:
Society solved this problem before, by using religion to enforce monogamy. Nearly every society on earth arrived at this solution independently, and then we just throw it away and think there won't be any consequences.... LOL
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lol monogamy is far from the norm and certainly not the norm in “nearly every society”.
 
Super_Nintendo said:
The incel thing is another of those topics in the culture war, and just like in every other topic the mainstream just repeats the lines they've been given. "Men are sexist, this is men's fault, the patriarchy".

When ONE THIRD of young men are incels and the online dating market discards everyone but the top 5-10%, society still comes up with reasons to shit on men.

"80+% of you can't get dates! What's wrong with you? Why are you defective and why can't you be like the top 10% or something?" <Lmaoo>
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A lot more than 10% of men are able to get dates from online dating. Really, any average guy can get dates on tinder, bumble or whatever. Not with the hottest girls but with average girls their age.
It's a bit absurd how women have it much easier and how some men get a lot more matches but you don't need that. If you are able to get a date a month you will not be an incel for long.
I know guys who are 5'3", and guys who are obese who are able to get laid. Sure, it's with plain or fat chicks but they're not incels.
 
Cuauhtemoc said:
A lot more than 10% of men are able to get dates from online dating. Really, any average guy can get dates on tinder, bumble or whatever. Not with the hottest girls but with average girls their age.
It's a bit absurd how women have it much easier and how some men get a lot more matches but you don't need that. If you are able to get a date a month you will not be an incel for long.
I know guys who are 5'3", and guys who are obese who are able to get laid. Sure, it's with plain or fat chicks but they're not incels.
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How do they try online when they like just 5% of the guys?

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I think this is probably going off topic, but I will say this, men are EXTRAORDINARILY stupid when it comes to simping. Like seriously, men deserve the fucking gold medal of simping stupidity when it comes to stuff like paying for foot pictures, wasting money on pornography, throwing money at Twitch streamers who show cleavage, or servers in bars. It must really inflate the egos of countless folks who don't bring much to the table in any deep or meaningful way.

There's the adage of "putting pussy on the pedestal", but this stuff is even more harmful in terms of warping egos. The amount of money men throw at women with luke-warm level I.Q.s is comical.
 
95% of the guys on Tinder are invisible and average women make 6 figures A MONTH on Onlyfans.

"The market is normal bruh. Just go out and be yourself".

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Super_Nintendo said:
95% of the guys on Tinder are invisible and beautiful specimens like this make 6 figures A MONTH on Onlyfans.

"The market is normal bruh. Just go out and be yourself".

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It's generally an expectations thing, I see ugly mofos with women all the time at work, they're just with women who are of compatible attractiveness to them, which is how it's always worked. If someone is a 2 they shouldn't expect to bag themselves a 5.
 
Super_Nintendo said:
How do they try online when they like just 5% of the guys?

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The stats do not mean it's always the same 5% of guys for every woman. Just like it doesn't mean it's the same 53% of girls for every man.
Tons of girls will swipe left on me but if even 1% swipe right it's still many more than I can handle.
 
Put on a nice shirt and get out there, you too can have a 3% chance of matching! And if you're not one of the chosen ones...well, I've called the feds and you're on an incel watch list now! Enjoy your life of video games and porn! Till next time, where I shame you for not being a stud in a market that discards 95% of you anyway.

 
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Cole train said:
Meh there have always been guys who cant get laid due to some physical or mental thing.Now theres internet to hear about them

Brothels might be one idea like in central euro or aus since it provides some kind of intimacy to person.In the end affection is basic need for mental health and going entire life without will fry your brain.

I dont believe in any violent uprising that you hear about in these discussions online but what might happen is guys start to drop out from society and live on welfare or go criminal which will put heavy strain on system.

Complicated stuff imo
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The problem is these assholes feel they're entitled to pussy without paying for or working at it. They're delusional losers.
 
Nameless King said:
I think every guy can get a girl. Personally I got issues with getting a gf. But its purely down to my preferences. I want good looking girl, top shelf, end of story. Nothing average. But then how can I expect to get top shelf when I am myself average. This is where escorts come into play which I do use. So I totally dont understand that movement at all. You want a gf? Have a realistic expectations of what can you get.
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I don't use escorts. I'm in my early 40s and look younger (a 26-year-old woman thought I was around her age about a year ago, I thought she was older than 26). I take care of myself. I prefer to date younger women, around 25-30 or so. Haven't had any issues dating women in my preferred range so far... As I get older (and wealthier), I may look into the sugar dating thing if I start to have problems. But I'm not there yet. Straight up prostitution/escorts isn't really my thing. I tried it once and didn't like it.
 
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