In Islam, MMA fighting is haram(not allowed,sin). Khabib's complaint is the epitome of hypocrisy

[m25105]

out of context ? Please read the koran or any of the evil abrahamic religions and u will mostly see evil in there. Stop being apologists. Its only harming our society. Pc ppl.... disgusting

I've read it.. three times. Maybe you should do it too.

 

[bad seed]

Mideast Muslims consider it haram. But those Caucasian Mountain tribes have fighting ingrained into their culture so their brand of Islam has to accomodate it.

 

[Wolf Of Sherdog]

You mean statistical facts like this?

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for

Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

This guy knows whats up. I challenge anyone to disprove him. Cant be done

 

[Wolf Of Sherdog]

I've read it.. three times. Maybe you should do it too.

Oh i have. Throwing up in my mouth many times while doing it. So you are claiming it is peaceful religions that dont deserve critisism for all the disgusting evil they have done to the world?

 

[FierceHitman]

This guy knows whats up. I challenge anyone to disprove him. Cant be done

check last page

 

[subhuman trash]

Has Khabib been questioned about this? Never seen him comment on it.

 

[m25105]

Oh i have. Throwing up in my mouth many times while doing it. So you are claiming it is peaceful religions that dont deserve critisism for all the disgusting evil they have done to the world?

If you've read it, then you've would recognise the fallacy of this in the opening post.

since the Quran says punching somebody in the face with a fist is not allowed (opposite to stoning sentence but whatever..).

You did not.

 

[EXOICHO]

A quick scan of the Internet reveals that it's not nearly as unanimous a view as you and the OP claim - which, in itself, isn't surprising given believers' tendency to deny ambiguity within the religion. It's factually irrelevant that you "grew up Muslim" or what your current views on fighting are. The only thing that matters is empirical evidence and that doesn't seem to support your case.

Most of the support for it being halal is using "evidence" that is not from the Qur'an itself. I stated that I grew up muslim because it IS relevant, actually. You can google anything and get tons of conflicting opinions, and then when you go into the actual communities, it is clear what the belief is. Just like how if you google abortion issues in Canada, you'll think it's up for debate and still a big argument. Googling things and pretending you understand the religion doesn't make you factual .

 

[Wolf Of Sherdog]

Yeah all that stuff happened TO Bosnian Muslims, not by them. By Orthodox Christians. Read up on the 90s Bosnian war .



lol



lol spot on.


As for the topic on hand, it is a somewhat debated issue in the muslim community. Wrestling is indeed permissible as even Prophet Muhammed, peace be upon him, was a good wrestler. Perhaps more likely than not this is why Khabib's style is so wrestling oriented. At end of the day nobody is perfect.

One of the more disgusting aspects of islam is the ''peace be upon him'' thing. How can u morally think that he is the greatest man to live? Seriously. Imagine the pain and misery of Aisha and countless other girls.. Its pretty insane that its even accepted as a religion

 

[Final Say]

You mean statistical facts like this?

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for

Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

Did you even fact check these stats from this hateful bullshit you just copy and pasted? Because they're wrong. Not only are the numbers wrong, but any objective observer wouldn't take this post seriously anyway because it clearly draws biased conclusions.

'Statistical facts', fuckin please!

As far as the topic goes, it's almost like not every religious person follows their respective scripture to a T. Amazing, can't believe it.

Shit is ridiculous, lotta fuckin RETARDS in this thread.

 

[Wolf Of Sherdog]

Did you even fact check these stats from this hateful bullshit you just copy and pasted? Because they're wrong. Not only are the numbers wrong, but any objective observer wouldn't take this post seriously anyway because it clearly draws biased conclusions.

'Statistical facts', fuckin please!

As far as the topic goes, it's almost like not every religious person follows their respective scripture to a T. Amazing, can't believe it.

Shit is ridiculous, lotta fuckin RETARDS in this thread.

The retards are the ones protecting and accepting this evil ideology. Thanks for destroying the greatness we manage to make even though we have been held back by abrahamic evil forever. God damn christians came and fucked up everything and now islam are gonna come and fuck up the rest of the little good things we have.. Fuck off

 

[FootstompShonie]

I'm staying out of this one, who cares what religion a fighter is or their personal beliefs/values.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Khabib's tweet is the dumbest thing I've ever read on sherdog.
Almost all deeply religious Muslims and Islamic scholars agree that sports like boxing are haram, since the Quran says punching somebody in the face with a fist is not allowed (opposite to stoning sentence but whatever..).
And there is no exception made from that anywhere in the Quran. So if it applies to boxing it obviously applies to MMA fighting.
Khabib disrespects his muslim fans by fighting in the UFC.

edit:
Sources for example:


and:

https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/9498/is-boxing-haram

Well, when you hear Mark Hunt start his post fight interview with something like "Jesus, thank you! This one was for you!" - it honestly has me in a state of severe confusion.

Why, oh why, would Jesus want you to knock another child of god's lights out for financial reward?

Like I love MMA, I love combat sports, but lay off the bullshit!

 

[KONE]

Did you even fact check these stats from this hateful bullshit you just copy and pasted? Because they're wrong. Not only are the numbers wrong, but any objective observer wouldn't take this post seriously anyway because it clearly draws biased conclusions.

'Statistical facts', fuckin please!

As far as the topic goes, it's almost like not every religious person follows their respective scripture to a T. Amazing, can't believe it.

Shit is ridiculous, lotta fuckin RETARDS in this thread.

This has to be the most pathetic response imaginable. "the stats are f-f-fake. Not all muslims do bad things!"

You do know multiple predominantly muslim countries still go by Sharia Law, right? Can you guess what that means?

 

[Final Say]

The retards are the ones protecting and accepting this evil ideology. Thanks for destroying the greatness we manage to make even though we have been held back by abrahamic evil forever. God damn christians came and fucked up everything and now islam are gonna come and fuck up the rest of the little good things we have.. Fuck off

So we're going to combat this perceived 'evil ideology' with a similarly evil reaction ??? You fuck off. I have a total lack of religion in my life, but I'm not a complete idiot either

 

[5Rounder]

Most of the support for it being halal is using "evidence" that is not from the Qur'an itself. I stated that I grew up muslim because it IS relevant, actually. You can google anything and get tons of conflicting opinions, and then when you go into the actual communities, it is clear what the belief is. Just like how if you google abortion issues in Canada, you'll think it's up for debate and still a big argument. Googling things and pretending you understand the religion doesn't make you factual .

I don't pretend that I understand the religion, but I do have the ability to assess whether a claim is supported by evidence through basic research. Relying on personal experiences drawn from your own communities and extrapolating that to universal application is the antithesis of reasoned analysis. Case in point - abortion is very much a live issue in Canada, especially in certain communities (notably the Muslim community).

 

[legedema]

No punching people in the face... But chopping peoples heads off & blowing people up is ok... Islam isn't a religion. It's a mental illness.

watch below link

 

[m25105]

This has to be the most pathetic response imaginable. "the stats are f-f-fake. Not all muslims do bad things!"

You do know multiple predominantly muslim countries still go by Sharia Law, right? Can you guess what that means?

Funny enough, they are mostly all the strongest allies of the West. I always love the double standards so many posters have here.

"Look how bad Muslims are, look at their history" "Well what about when the West orchestrated coups, or invaded these countries?" "That's ancient history! What's next, are you gonna bring up the crusades" (more rambling continues, followed by some video by Ben Shapiro and other warhawks).

 

[Final Say]

This has to be the most pathetic response imaginable. "the stats are f-f-fake. Not all muslims do bad things!"

You do know multiple predominantly muslim countries still go by Sharia Law, right? Can you guess what that means?

That's not at all what I said. The stats ARE fake and the conclusions given from the fake stats are totally biased horse shit that ONE person believes.

And I didn't say that not all Muslims are bad, because that's an obvious common sense fucking fact

Of course I know what sharia law is, and it has absolutely nothing to do with my posts.

 

[lecter]

If you've read it, then you've would recognise the fallacy of this in the opening post.

You did not.

What are you babbling about???


“When any one of you fights, let him avoid (striking) the face.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, 5/215).
‘Stone her, but avoid the face.’ (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 4/152)
“The scholars said: it is forbidden to strike the face because it is soft and all of a person's beauty and most of his senses are located there. If the face is hit, there is the fear that all or some of them may be destroyed or disfigured. Any defect in the face is a terrible thing because it is so prominent and obvious, and usually the person who is hit in the face will not be spared some disfigurement.” (al-Fath, 5/216).

Then the Quran itself forbids you to to anything which does harm to yourself, including harm to your body.