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In 8 ufc fights, Dern has only 3 takedowns.

Yeah, and $200k of that $836k are FoN bonuses, lol. Talk about subsidies not likely in her future!

Sorry, its just not that great looking in to the future for her. She lost her first really competitive fight. She's got zero for the top 3, and just lost to #5? I know you feel emotionally compelled to White Knight her, but it's a no brainer - make MORE money the PVZ way and avoid future ego-crippling losses and CTE.

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You would never see that money she made , stop hating dude it makes you look petty. She making money outside the UFC too. You asked for numbers and I provided them.


Investing even half of that can set her up for the rest of her life.
 
You would never see that money she made , stop hating dude it makes you look petty. She making money outside the UFC too. You asked for numbers and I provided them.


Investing even half of that can set her up for the rest of her life.

She already has slight CTE, considering she's forgot how to conjugate verbs in English and form gramatically correct sentences. How much more CTE do you want her to suffer? She could probably make 5X her MMA income on OnlyFans if she shows more nudity. Its a no brainer before she becomes a non-brainer!
 
She already has slight CTE, considering she's forgot how to conjugate verbs in English and form gramatically correct sentences. How much more CTE do you want her to suffer? She could probably make 5X her MMA income on OnlyFans if she shows more nudity. Its a no brainer before she becomes a non-brainer!

Just admit you got owned when you said don't reply without numbers . I provided them and made you look foolish. Now you tried to say "oh well umm 800k is not that much) for 6-7 fights that some actually ended in one round lol.

You should of known that I have known her since she was 8 years old and her main training partner in bjj since she was a blue belt. I'm a black belt in bjj under her father.

Most people who been here a long time knows that I provided evidence of this over the years.

I have debunked her accent topic multiple times. Don't know why your so angry at her. She's never did anything to you lol.
 
Just admit you got owned when you said don't reply without numbers . I provided them and made you look foolish. Now you tried to say "oh well umm 800k is not that much) for 6-7 fights that some actually ended in one round lol.

You should of known that I have known her since she was 8 years old and her main training partner in bjj since she was a blue belt. I'm a black belt in bjj under her father.

Most people who been here a long time knows that I provided evidence of this over the years.

I have debunked her accent topic multiple times. Don't know why your so angry at her. She's never did anything to you lol.

You can't "own" anyone because your argument was made weak - that's why you still haven't acknowledged how long it took to earn, how much goes to mgmt, coaching, gyms, trainers, etc., the fact that MOST of it is win bonuses and subjective FoTN bonuses, which will disappear going forward, the liklihood she will suffer CTE, and she'll make more $$$ being a T&A girl on OnlyFans.
 
You can't "own" anyone because your argument was made weak - that's why you still haven't acknowledged how long it took to earn, how much goes to mgmt, coaching, gyms, trainers, etc., the fact that MOST of it is win bonuses and subjective FoTN bonuses, which will disappear going forward, the liklihood she will suffer CTE, and she'll make more $$$ being a T&A girl on OnlyFans.

How old are you? Why do you keep wanting women to sell their @$$ to make money? You sound like a simp dude.

Her sponsors money alone pays for management, gym and coach fees lol.

You haven't admitted that you will never see the money she made so far . CTE, what women have it right now Dr?

Investing any if the money she made so far will set her up for the future . So it doesn't matter when she leaves the UFC. You do know people make money on investments and real estate.

You don't have to sell your body to be well off.
 
Well obviously you never been in one lol
And you have … been in a mcdojo… which is far more shameful than having not… actually oh wait .. Damn I have … those 90s karate corners that dunk black belts onto 90 pound single digit aged kids
 
How old are you? Why do you keep wanting women to sell their @$$ to make money? You sound like a simp dude.

Her sponsors money alone pays for management, gym and coach fees lol.

You haven't admitted that you will never see the money she made so far . CTE, what women have it right now Dr?

Investing any if the money she made so far will set her up for the future . So it doesn't matter when she leaves the UFC. You do know people make money on investments and real estate.

You don't have to sell your body to be well off.

You don't have to suffer CTE to be well off. She already sells her body, so it wouldn't be anything new to her.

What is the exact $ amount of her sponsor income?
 
How much sponsorship money does someone like Dern make? My understanding is that fighters were hit hard by the Reebok deal.

Well I know a ballpark from what her father told me and I can tell you it's alot more than her contracts in the UFC lol.
 
The best thing Sherdog and the MMA fans can do is just forget about Dern. She was/is overhyped and nothing special in MMA. It's funny that 4 years ago my friend thought she was so hot and she would be amazing and beat everyone in the UFC, like most people who folllow BJJ thought. I had never heard of her so I was excited to see her in UFC too. Now he doesn't even watch her fights or know who or when she is fighting next. He said he did watch the first round on Saturday and then got bored and turned it off.
 
You don't have to suffer CTE to be well off. She already sells her body, so it wouldn't be anything new to her.

What is the exact $ amount of her sponsor income?

I only know what her father told me and it's more then her contracts. That's all I'm saying on that front.

So what women have CTE right now? Where the evidence? You keep speaking in what ifs. If you really believe that then you would give me a list of women displaying CTE.

Also you can't tell if someone has CTE until they passed and an autopsy is done on the brain.
 
I only know what her father told me and it's more then her contracts. That's all I'm saying on that front.

So what women have CTE right now? Where the evidence? You keep speaking in what ifs. If you really believe that then you would give me a list of women displaying CTE.

Also you can't tell if someone has CTE until they passed and an autopsy is done on the brain.

Ok Mackenzie, I'll go with your premise - You actually think women can't get CTE???

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Dern simply did not look strong in the fight. Her BJJ might be amazing but it seemed she was easily getting over powered. She currently does not have enough skills to compete. Her striking is sub par, her striking defense is sub-par, and her clinch / wrestling game is sub-par. Hard to use BJJ if you can not get the person down first. If she could at least train take downs then that maybe enough to get by while she improves striking.
 
go to a proper wrestling coach. going with triple cringe isn't enough and we don't know if he's a good Td teacher; most of the best teachers weren't the best athletes. i woudl say go to AKA, and let he be dagestan ready.
 
Ok Mackenzie, I'll go with your premise - You actually think women can't get CTE???

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Sure they can, but doesn't me they will. Right know there is no test able to show who has CTE or who will get it. You're reading comprehension needs work. It appears you didn't even know CTE can't be proven until death.

It's to just randomly say he or she will have CTE when you know that's not a fact they will.
 
Sure they can, but doesn't me they will. Right know there is no test able to show who has CTE or who will get it. You're reading comprehension needs work. It appears you didn't even know CTE can't be proven until death.

It's to just randomly say he or she will have CTE when you know that's not a fact they will.

They will Mackenzie. Isn't it time you put your kid to bed?
 
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