In 2008 we were contemplating Anderson vs cung le

[sangreporsangre]

Does anyone remember the first Strikeforce after they got bought out by UFC, I think Mauro started talking about hypothetical fights that could happen between Strikefore and UFC fighters now and threw Anderson vs Cung out there. Well Frank Shamrock started making these high pitched retarded Bruce Lee type of hiiyaaaa sounds lmao. It was really bizarre and cringe-worthy.

 

[Bluesbreaker]

Anderson was rangier but wasn't much bigger, particularly in 2008. Anderson's limbs and waist still back then were pretty lanky for a 185lber, let alone a LHW

You say he "could" fight comfortably at LHW but the fact is he DID fight comfortably at WW in 2006, just two years before this fantasy matchup. If he was bigger than Le, definitely not by "much"

I agree with the rest of your points

You're talking about the Rumble on the Rock tournament? Their weight limit was 175lb. Andy and Okami looked like AIDS patients at the weigh ins.

 

[mkt]

I personally think the clowning was a clear attempt to not get weidman to wrestle (he clowned maia pretty hard too). He got taken down really fast in round 1 of the first fight and it was obvious where that fight was going to go if weidman didn't attempt leglocks and just GNP'd him.

Maybe so, but he was almost 40. Just a slight drop in reflexes can be the difference in a KO and a glancing blow that does little damage.

 

[mkt]

oh so you are talking about the anderson that was just coming off getting flying heel hooked by 5 foot 9 chonan?? the same anderson that was getting triangled by 4-7-1 takase??

yes, that anderson would do much better.

Your name on here is perfect. That's about how serious anyone should take your drivel.

 

[dildos]

Your name on here is perfect. That's about how serious anyone should take your drivel.

i liked the part of this post where you actually responded and proved anything i said to be wrong.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Some people thought Cung would win. Most people thought Anderson would win. Don’t oversell it

 

[Blayt7hh]

Look, you just don’t understand lighting bro

 

[Perrichet]

It depends on the fighter. Rory McDonald was past his best days by his 20s. But no one is even close to their physical prime at 38.

Well Anderson was in his physical prime when he got tapped out by those 3 cans in PRIDE. One had a 4-7 record going into the fight

 

[Klaavical]

Look, you just don’t understand lighting bro

And angles?

 

[Perrichet]

Amanda Nunes faced every legend that was thrown in front of her and demolished them all.

I rate Cyborg, Ronda, Holly, GDR, Meisha and Valentina TWICE a lot higher than:

Dan Hardy, Thiago Alves, Matt Serra, Carlos Condit, almost 40 Hughes and Josh 0-6 all by KO Koscheck.

All of those women are legends in thier divisions and other sports. With the exception of 2 very close fights with Val, Amanda DEMOLISHED them when it counted. She didnt get sent to the Morgue by a 5'3 journeyman lw like Georges did.

So yes, I do believe Amanda Nunes belongs on a shrine ahead of georges.

Well done confirming what I already knew

 

[Blayt7hh]

Amanda Nunes faced every legend that was thrown in front of her and demolished them all.

I rate Cyborg, Ronda, Holly, GDR, Meisha and Valentina TWICE a lot higher than:

Dan Hardy, Thiago Alves, Matt Serra, Carlos Condit, almost 40 Hughes and Josh 0-6 all by KO Koscheck.

All of those women are legends in thier divisions and other sports. With the exception of 2 very close fights with Val, Amanda DEMOLISHED them when it counted. She didnt get sent to the Morgue by a 5'3 journeyman lw like Georges did.

So yes, I do believe Amanda Nunes belongs on a shrine ahead of georges.

GSP haters are so derpy it cracks me up. But also, makes me a little sad for them being so angry and stupid

 

[BigDramaShow26]

Le was awesome. I stumbled upon him on ESPN 2 as a kid in what was kick boxing I think? When I saw him show up on Strikeforce years later, I was pleasantly surprised. He didn't join into his mid 30s right? He still has a couple good wins.

 

[pankrat]

You're talking about the Rumble on the Rock tournament? Their weight limit was 175lb. Andy and Okami looked like AIDS patients at the weigh ins.

That's some sherdog broscience eye test dude.
They had as much problems and looked as depleted as so many MWs did to make 185. Rockhold, Muñoz, Romero - just to name a few - looked even worse to make the weight 10lbs heavier.

Okami in his year debut in UFC (same year) walked around at 190, he put mass on his frame through the years but no, it wasn't such a massive weight cut doesnt mater what your brosciene eye test tells you.

Here it is the weight in for that tournament. Silva looks just fine, lanky as he always was at that point in his career but smiling and not even specially depleted compared to so many other weightcutters that we see regularly:

 

[GrantB13]

He was on a 17 fight win streak at the time you Goofs..

Yes. But as I've argued before, prime does not mean unbeatable. Prime means best and Silva was not his best in the last couple fights leading up to Weidman.

 

[chupacabra5]

Silva's first 3 career losses were at the age most people would consider the prime of an athlete

Surely in MMA your prime is when you’re at your best. That will depend on your training to some extent.

 

[mmadeewana]

would have been a good fight but i wanted Luke vs AS more

 

[Bluesbreaker]

That's some sherdog broscience eye test dude.
They had as much problems and looked as depleted as so many MWs did to make 185. Rockhold, Muñoz, Romero - just to name a few - looked even worse to make the weight 10lbs heavier.

Okami in his year debut in UFC (same year) walked around at 190, he put mass on his frame through the years but no, it wasn't such a massive weight cut doesnt mater what your brosciene eye test tells you.

Here it is the weight in for that tournament. Silva looks just fine, lanky as he always was at that point in his career but smiling and not even specially depleted compared to so many other weightcutters that we see regularly:

You conveniently neglected to mention the weight limit for this tournament. Did you watch with the sound on?

 

[pankrat]

You conveniently neglected to mention the weight limit for this tournament. Did you watch with the sound on?

Hey dude, do you want to make any argument around those 5lbs or you are just pretending some kind of online moral victory? Same with the question you ask me, where do you want to get with it, what's your point?

Anderson and Okami had a pretty large frame but weren't really big MWs, specially back then when they barely worked the weight room (and probably before PEDs in Silva's case)
A really big MW as Rockhold, Muñoz, Romero among many others could not make 175lbs, much less at 30 y.o. They just can't. And if they do, they would look absolutely depleted, not like Silva or Yushin look in that video.

There is also reports from back then about the walk around weight of both of them, which wasnt above 200lbs, which again shows they weren't really that "big" of a MWs

Not to mention Okami has fought almost half of his career at WW, even in his late 30s, and Silva fough as low as at 168lbs in Shooto

 

[Ghostoftheville]

Surely in MMA your prime is when you’re at your best. That will depend on your training to some extent.

To an extent, yes, but are we honestly arguing that an athlete isn't at his physical prime at 28 when you have a better understanding of how you move, your speed and reflexes before they begin to recede due to age. When you've gained enough experience to have "fight I.Q.". When you're still young enough to learn the new tricks and improve from a loss but not so worn down that even a mild injury can cause a permanent physical change, obviously that is part of an athlete's prime

 

[chupacabra5]

To an extent, yes, but are we honestly arguing that an athlete isn't at his physical prime at 28 when you have a better understanding of how you move, your speed and reflexes before they begin to recede due to age. When you've gained enough experience to have "fight I.Q.". When you're still young enough to learn the new tricks and improve from a loss but not so worn down that even a mild injury can cause a permanent physical change, obviously that is part of an athlete's prime

Physical prime means nothing if you’re not at your peak in terms of skill. When people say “prime X” they mean X at their best in a particular sport.

This is why we say “prime X” and not “X in their 20s”.