In 10 years, Khabib will unanimously be considered the GOAT.

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Sycho Sid said:
10 years os a long ass time in the fight game. He may not even be the lw goat by then
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This. For all we know, there could be some 18 year old prodigy about to make his debut, and turn into an undefeated champ across the FW, LW, and WW divisions. On a slightly more realistic note, Izzy can claim the GOAT mantle in a few years as long as he keeps defending the 185lbs belt and maybe win the 205lbs belt if he keeps improving.
 
balkanbomber85 said:
religious bias... usman converted from islam to christianity, thats why he gets so much hate from many kabib fans on sherdog
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Possibly. But my issue was that khabib is gonna end up being more about “potential goat” rather than “actual goat” because he retired early. Several other fighters have more accomplishments than he does in overall mma. Even Usman is already at khabib achievement or soon to surpass it.
 
The ONLY way he is ever in consideration for the all time GOAT is if he unretires and defends the title at least four more times.

Until then, he’s a top 7 goat.
 
Goat St Pierre said:
2 Losses which he both avenged and early in his career, one being against the former WW Goat. I actually like Fedor and I do consider him one of the Goats, but part of his 'legendary' run consisted of unknown Japanese wrestlers. One who was 0-1. Would that ever happen in the UFC?
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>Avenged LOSS to Matt Serra


You do realize how absurd that sounds in a GOAT discussion right?


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I'm not sure anyone's allure has grown with time, maybe Bo Jackson? But I doubt Khabib's claim would grow over time. It doesn't really work like that, usually the recency bias kicks in.

Edit: Example is Bill Russell, his claim to GOAT has diminished even though 11 titles is still the outright leader. People over time criticize the quality of opponents and the parity of the past.
 
No he won't, in ten years people will look at his record and realised 16 of those fights were against ridiculously low competition, and then even in the UFC he only fought 6 proven elite fighters.

Great record, but not GOAT worthy.
 
If zero MMA losses are all it takes to be considered the GOAT, then I’m the GOAT of all GOATs.

For real though, Khabib is going to be the ultimate what if story. He came kind of close but ultimately quit too early to be anywhere near the top 5.
 
Young Calf Kick said:
Simply due to the fact that his accomplishments will never be equaled.

Nostalgia is a powerful emotion, but you already know this just by looking at all the PRIDE/Fedor fanboys over here.

GSP, Fedor, Silva and Jones were all great champions, GOATs in their respectful divisions. But there is only one champion without a single asterisk to his name, and his name is Khabib Nurmagomedov.

Retired undefeated at 29-0. Undefeated retirements don’t happen in MMA.
He’s only lost one round in his entire professional career.
Has never faced serious adversity for longer than a minute in a single fight.
Never bled in the Octagon.
Dominated every single fighter they put in front of him, objectively the most dominant Mixed Martial Artist of all time.
By far the greatest MMA grappler of all time.
Did it without PEDs.

Literally the only thing that’s being held against him objectively is his somewhat “low” amount of title defences.

The argument of his level of opposition being subpar is complete bullshit. RDA, Barboza, McGregor, Poirier and Gaethje is at least as good a resume as Fedor’s, Anderson’s and GSP’s.

The only GOAT candidate that faced a higher level of competition is Jon Jones. But being a habitual PED abuser disqualifies you from being the GOAT anyway, because one cannot be the greatest in any field if the person had to cheat in order to be considered as such. If you cheat, you don’t play the same game.

No matter how many titles and championships Lance Armstrong won, after the public found out about his EPO use, the reputation went completely down the gutter, and rightfully so.

People still in denial about this are immature little children, in 10 years they will have gotten a little older and wiser. Other groups that will come around in this timespan are the salty McGregor fanboys.

In 10 years,
People will remember GSP for his greatness, but will also remember him tapping to strikes, losing twice and getting the living shit beat out of him by Johny Hendricks.
People will remember Anderson for his greatness, but will also remember his many losses (in particular to Weidman), and occasional steroid use.
People will remember Fedor for his greatness, but will also remember his low level of competition, him getting KO’d multiple times (when he was older, but still) and getting subbed by Werdum.
People will remember Jones for his greatness, but will also remember his habitual steroid abuse, forever casting a shadow over all his accomplishments, and his lackluster performances/robberies, him looking like a shadow of his former self after juicing was no longer an option.

But in 10 years, what people will remember about Khabib is that not a single fighter has even come close to beating him. They will remember only dominance, an undefeated 29-0 record, the annihilation of the UFC’s poster boy, a perfect career without a single mistake.

In 10 years, Khabib will unanimously be considered the GOAT.

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A lot of words to talk about a guy who only defeated 5 fighters who people will even remember 10 years from now at best. Talk to me about GOAT status after he takes three years off then comes back and wins the WW belt. Three title defenses in his career and unanimous GOAT? That’s some good kool-aid brother !
 
Humankind cant pick one religion after thousands of years. Good luck with your mma goat list. Ffs we have people who believe that earth is flat.

We dont know what that "greatest" even mean. And even if we had clear scoring rules about it how you deal with those mma fans who dont believe in logic.
 
In the future we will see that media is going to play the biggest role in how past fighters are judged. If you don't have a crazy good hl reel you won't be remembered. Khabin has a decent hl reel so he will have people in 2040 talking about him but not in the same way they will talk about bones, Anderson and Fedor who have stellar records and amazing hl reels. As for someone like gsp, he will be forgotten and not on anyone's radar. What kind of hl reel is jabbing koscheck in the eye and getting outboxed by Jake sheilds and holding Dan Hardy's arm for 20 minutes.
 
Goat St Pierre said:
2 Losses which he both avenged and early in his career
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There is no shame in his loss to Hughes. Not everyone can be Fedor, and GSP used to be cool then, finishing fights and shit.

But is laughable how all Mardi GraSP cultist act like his losses weren't in title fights, but some "eartly losses" while learning the ropes in some obscure promotion. Especially the Serra fight, second UFC title shot and 15th fight ot of 28.
 
I see people comparing khabib to Marciano again. Obviously not boxing fans and just read stats

Nobody considers marciano goat because he scraped through a few older guys in tough fights

It's not comparable to khabib's dominance

I'm sure if Rocky dominated all his 49-0 opponents (we will allow 48, as tibau wasn't dominated) and was never left a mark, he would seriously be in the conversation

Also boxing is steeped in history and he's up against Ali etc

Many call gsp goat? He isn't even half as good in mma as someone like floyd or manny are in boxing

Khabib is the best, most dominating fighter in history
 
Dana's Moonface said:
I see people comparing khabib to Marciano again. Obviously not boxing fans and just read stats

Nobody considers marciano goat because he scraped through a few older guys in tough fights

It's not comparable to khabib's dominance

I'm sure if Rocky dominated all his 49-0 opponents (we will allow 48, as tibau wasn't dominated) and was never left a mark, he would seriously be in the conversation

Also boxing is steeped in history and he's up against Ali etc

Many call gsp goat? He isn't even half as good in mma as someone like floyd or manny are in boxing

Khabib is the best, most dominating fighter in history
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The Marciano comparisons are terrible, Marciano fought guys past their prime where HWs were very small and would get destroyed just based on size in today's division. He also had many questionable decisions. Its like most of sherdog doesn't know about boxing lol
 
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