In 10 years, Khabib will unanimously be considered the GOAT.

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You mean that glorified bodybuilder Lay n Pray artist that no one cares about watching?

we’ll continue this conversation if Usman ever learns to advance position and tries to work submissions instead of just stalling, laying on his opponents or holding them against the cage with footstomps.
I mean lol what’s yer basis for praising khabib but not Usman then? Because Usman won his last fight by ko

I meant specifically that Usman already has same number of title defenses as khabib did, and he’s not even in much goat talk yet. The real top mma fighters of all time have set the bar really high
 
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Sorry but you can live in fantasyland all you want while adults live in reality.

13 UFC wins....13...16 wins against nobodies.... retired after a handful of top fighters fighting him.

Hahahahahaha my goodness...... recency bias

Doesn't even have half as many good wins as GSP , Silva or Jones..... what a funny joke
 
No disrespect but when did you start watching MMA?

Fedor would’ve done his legacy a disservice going to the UFC in his prime when Pride had a monopoly on the HW’s. The UFC’s top dogs were Sylvia and AA both of whom Fedor finished out of his prime lol.
Fedor has several losses on his record now, i would put him ahead of Anderson and Jones though because he isn't a steroid cheat
 
He's not the GOAT but he's something more interesting. A mythical man who descended from the mountains, dominated like no other, and then abruptly returned from whence he came.
 
Rocky Marciano had the same career trajectory and very few consider him the GOAT today. Retiring young makes people think you took the easy route and would have been beaten had you continued.


edit: i see the point was already made. posted before thread-scan.
 
He's not the GOAT but he's something more interesting. A mythical man who descended from the mountains, dominated like no other, and then abruptly returned from whence he came.
Sounds like some GOAT shit to me.

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Rocky Marciano had the same career trajectory and very few consider him the GOAT today. Retiring young makes people think you took the easy route and would have been beaten had you continued.
Is Muhammad Ali the GOAT then because of the beatings he got for fighting past his prime? I don’t see how losing makes your accomplishments more valid.
 
LOL what a load of BS... nobody considers Marciano as the HW GOAT although he is 49-0, which is 20 more than Beep, a much higher finish ratio with 85% against Beeps 65% and I dont need to go into detail how his resume is like 20x more impressive than Beeps!

Religious bias is becoming a cancer on this forum.
 
GOAT’s don’t forfeit to Matt Serra.

Khabib
Jones/Fedor
GSP/Anderson

That is the order with Khabib cementing himself at the top.
You're off your rocker putting Khabib at the top.....a well knowledged MMA guy like yourself putting a 14-0 guy who never fought a legit stylistic threat as the best ever?

Yikes mate, these lockdowns have melted your brain.
 
Simply due to the fact that his accomplishments will never be equaled.

Nostalgia is a powerful emotion, but you already know this just by looking at all the PRIDE/Fedor fanboys over here.

GSP, Fedor, Silva and Jones were all great champions, GOATs in their respectful divisions. But there is only one champion without a single asterisk to his name, and his name is Khabib Nurmagomedov.

Retired undefeated at 29-0. Undefeated retirements don’t happen in MMA.
He’s only lost one round in his entire professional career.
Has never faced serious adversity for longer than a minute in a single fight.
Never bled in the Octagon.
Dominated every single fighter they put in front of him, objectively the most dominant Mixed Martial Artist of all time.
By far the greatest MMA grappler of all time.
Did it without PEDs.

Literally the only thing that’s being held against him objectively is his somewhat “low” amount of title defences.

The argument of his level of opposition being subpar is complete bullshit. RDA, Barboza, McGregor, Poirier and Gaethje is at least as good a resume as Fedor’s, Anderson’s and GSP’s.

The only GOAT candidate that faced a higher level of competition is Jon Jones. But being a habitual PED abuser disqualifies you from being the GOAT anyway, because one cannot be the greatest in any field if the person had to cheat in order to be considered as such. If you cheat, you don’t play the same game.

No matter how many titles and championships Lance Armstrong won, after the public found out about his EPO use, the reputation went completely down the gutter, and rightfully so.

People still in denial about this are immature little children, in 10 years they will have gotten a little older and wiser. Other groups that will come around in this timespan are the salty McGregor fanboys.

In 10 years,
People will remember GSP for his greatness, but will also remember him tapping to strikes, losing twice and getting the living shit beat out of him by Johny Hendricks.
People will remember Anderson for his greatness, but will also remember his many losses (in particular to Weidman), and occasional steroid use.
People will remember Fedor for his greatness, but will also remember his low level of competition, him getting KO’d multiple times (when he was older, but still) and getting subbed by Werdum.
People will remember Jones for his greatness, but will also remember his habitual steroid abuse, forever casting a shadow over all his accomplishments, and his lackluster performances/robberies, him looking like a shadow of his former self after juicing was no longer an option.

But in 10 years, what people will remember about Khabib is that not a single fighter has even come close to beating him. They will remember only dominance, an undefeated 29-0 record, the annihilation of the UFC’s poster boy, a perfect career without a single mistake.

In 10 years, Khabib will unanimously be considered the GOAT.

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Honestly i dont think so. He retired early and his best wins never saw belt again. Also his best and only wins are strikers. If nothing else he will get more of Stipe treatment in the future.
 
Fedor has several losses on his record now, i would put him ahead of Anderson and Jones though because he isn't a steroid cheat

You’re not wrong, but now you know WHY GSP can never be considered the GOAT... you said it: “Too many losses”.



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I mean lol what’s yer basis for praising khabib but not Usman then? Because Usman won his last fight by ko

I meant specifically that Usman already has same number of title defenses as khabib did, and he’s not even in much goat talk yet. The real top mma fighters of all time have set the bar really high

religious bias... usman converted from islam to christianity, thats why he gets so much hate from many kabib fans on sherdog
 
You’re not wrong, but now you know WHY GSP can never be considered the GOAT... you said it: “Too many losses”.



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2 Losses which he both avenged and early in his career, one being against the former WW Goat. I actually like Fedor and I do consider him one of the Goats, but part of his 'legendary' run consisted of unknown Japanese wrestlers. One who was 0-1. Would that ever happen in the UFC?
 
Great post OP. The goalposts of being a GOAT keep changing from Khabib haters because they can't cope with it.

Recently I've even seen one degenerate say the fact he never bled, got dropped etc means he never faced good fighters LOL and the rest of the haters hate Khabib's religions so...

All their favourite fighters have lost, got battered, took PEDS, greased, HGH'd, got dropped etc.... bar the Beeb which infuriates these haters deep inside especially considering how he's so successful outside his fighting career and has moved on already and helping his other guys etc... it's remarkable.

Khabib is the ultimate success story of MMA. Went in, dominated, became Champion, got rich, defended his belt, went out on top with ZERO damage, no controversies, moved on with his life successfully opening several business and owning his own promotion unlike others getting KO'd outside bars or fighting on with 10 fight losing streaks unable to have an identity without getting their asses kicked in a cage (reminds me of soldiers with PTSD unable to function back in society). Khabib is the GOLD standard of what everyone would like their career to go like.
 
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