I'm worried for our boy Mike Perry...

[AstralPanda]

So that’s your argument? “That guy says he’s real so I think he’s real.” Do you understand how naive that sounds?

it's one point I have drawn upon out of many. There's dozens of fighters who've commented on Jake Paul

All of whom have been pretty respectful and acknowledge that he put the time in and has attained a modest level of skill in the sport.

Notice how you don't ever see fighters come out and talk shit about him.

Only the basement warriors.

Frankly, it's a good point. Which contributes to an overarching point which I made throughout this thread.

The greatest minds and analysts in the sport are able to give credit where it's due, even people who don't like him.

But you know better. You know it's all fake. You know he just put on a pair of boxing gloves one day and decided to fight.

 

[AmonTobin]

Mike Perry sustained more damage in that fight than almost any fight ive seen all year.

Are our eyes lying?

How did you think they faked the punches? Did they rig the cameras too?!

I think Mike Perry punched air when Jake wasn't even moving. I think Nate Diaz punched air and gave the softest body shot when Jake was stuck in the mud. These pro fighter know how to move.

 

[AmonTobin]

it's one point I have drawn upon out of many. There's dozens of fighters who've commented on Jake Paul

All of whom have been pretty respectful and acknowledge that he put the time in and has attained a modest level of skill in the sport.

Notice how you don't ever see fighters come out and talk shit about him.

Only the basement warriors.

Frankly, it's a good point. Which contributes to an overarching point which I made throughout this thread.

The greatest minds and analysts in the sport are able to give credit where it's due, even people who don't like him.

But you know better. You know it's all fake. You know he just put on a pair of boxing gloves one day and decided to fight.

So my question still stands. People supporting him is your proof that he isn't staging fixed fights? No there's pro fighters and boxers and trainers speaking up about Jake faking it. They're not basement dwellers. You're making that up. Please name the greatest minds in the sport who are praising his talents. I''ll wait.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Explain the strikes count for Nate Diaz in Masvidal fight compared to the strikes total in the Paul boxathon.

One opponent is in his 20s, 200+lbs and probably has a harder right hand than Usman. The other is a 39 year old who spent his career at 170 and 155lbs and lacked power even in MMA gloves. No shit the two fights might look different lol.

 

[AmonTobin]

So my question still stands. People supporting him is your proof that he isn't staging fixed fights? No there's pro fighters and boxers and trainers speaking up about Jake faking it. They're not basement dwellers. You're making that up. Please name the greatest minds in the sport who are praising his talents. I''ll wait.

Rampage Jackson has asked guys on his podcast if they had to sign nondisclosure agreements. Look it up.

 

[AstralPanda]

Do you understand what it means to get paid to get punched? Thats what a scripted boxing match is. Thats why ufc vets are perfect for this gimmick. They’re tough as hell and can take punches from boxing gloves if the price is right. You think Mike Perry doesn’t know how to eat punches? He bare knuckle boxes. Tonight was child’s play. He doesn’t give a fuck.

Tonight was child's play, yeah you'd know, since you never even watched the fight.. lol

He took more damage in this fight than any point of his career by a huge margin bro.

That wasn't child's play. That kind of damage ends careers and cracks chins for good.

Mike Perry just isn't that good. I said it a million times before the fight. I called exactly what would happen, and it happened. Because there's levels to boxing.

Jake doesn't need to rig a fight against someone he has a gigantic edge in skill and experience over within multiple dimensions of the sport.

All this mythical fight experience you speak of perry having means absolutely nothing in a boxing ring

Only thing it means is that you don't even understand boxing on the most basic levels the way you treat these things interchangeably like they're in any way equal.

Boxing is a different sport.

Even a mid grade amateur is good enough to beat the vast majority of MMA fighters.

Why rig fights when you're clearly superior to your opponent in every way?

If you're gonna do it, why not pick opponents that will actually garner more credibility? Especially since he gets so much hate for fighting MMA fighters

Im sure there's a few top 20 guys hurting for cash that would gladly take a pay day to take a dive.

Surely, if you're gonna to that route, that would make the most sense


But he chooses to pay guys to take a dive that he has a giant advantage over and wouldn't need to anyways?

The logic is immaculate, truly.

 

[AmonTobin]

it's one point I have drawn upon out of many. There's dozens of fighters who've commented on Jake Paul

All of whom have been pretty respectful and acknowledge that he put the time in and has attained a modest level of skill in the sport.

Notice how you don't ever see fighters come out and talk shit about him.

Only the basement warriors.

Frankly, it's a good point. Which contributes to an overarching point which I made throughout this thread.

The greatest minds and analysts in the sport are able to give credit where it's due, even people who don't like him.

But you know better. You know it's all fake. You know he just put on a pair of boxing gloves one day and decided to fight.

Rampage has discussed nondisclosure agreements with Jake Paul opponents on his podcast. Is he a basement dweller? Pretty sure he's been boxing longer than Jake Paul has been alive.

 

[AmonTobin]

Tonight was child's play, yeah you'd know, since you never even watched the fight.. lol

He took more damage in this fight than any point of his career by a huge margin bro.

That wasn't child's play. That kind of damage ends careers and cracks chins for good.

Mike Perry just isn't that good. I said it a million times before the fight. I called exactly what would happen, and it happened. Because there's levels to boxing.

Jake doesn't need to rig a fight against someone he has a gigantic edge in skill and experience over within multiple dimensions of the sport.

All this mythical fight experience you speak of perry having means absolutely nothing in a boxing ring

Only thing it means is that you don't even understand boxing on the most basic levels the way you treat these things interchangeably like they're in any way equal.

Boxing is a different sport.

Even a mid grade amateur is good enough to beat the vast majority of MMA fighters.

Why rig fights when you're clearly superior to your opponent in every way?

If you're gonna do it, why not pick opponents that will actually garner more credibility? Especially since he gets so much hate for fighting MMA fighters

Im sure there's a few top 20 guys hurting for cash that would gladly take a pay day to take a dive.

Surely, if you're gonna to that route, that would make the most sense


But he chooses to pay guys to take a dive that he has a giant advantage over and wouldn't need to anyways?

The logic is immaculate, truly.

He doesn't have a giant advantage over them though. That's just your way of explaining the improbable to yourself. They are much more skilled and experienced than him. A lifetime's worth in fact. You can't blame them on being old or washed up because Nate Diaz looked just fine in his last fight. Night and day. Please explain why Nate threw like 12 punches in the whole match that didn't touch Jake Paul's face but then threw 50x as many in the first round and the last round of the masvidal fight. Use your brain.

 

[Morris88]

Mike is gonna beat the brakes off this ponce, don't be scared homie

I'm here to eat huge piles of crow, and shit.

DAMMIT MIKE YOU HAD ONE JOB!!

 

[AstralPanda]

Rampage has discussed nondisclosure agreements with Jake Paul opponents on his podcast. Is he a basement dweller? Pretty sure he's been boxing longer than Jake Paul has been alive.

NDA is common in business. All big fights have them in varying degrees. That isn't evidence of anything.

Woodley was even asked that question and denied it, which sounded very truthful in tone and body language.

He said they'd have to pay him 20 mil for him to actually take a dive. And basically set him up for life

 

[AmonTobin]

Tonight was child's play, yeah you'd know, since you never even watched the fight.. lol
He took more damage in this fight than any point of his career by a huge margin bro.
That wasn't child's play. That kind of damage ends careers and cracks chins for good.
Mike Perry just isn't that good. I said it a million times before the fight. I called exactly what would happen, and it happened. Because there's levels to boxing.
Jake doesn't need to rig a fight against someone he has a gigantic edge in skill and experience over within multiple dimensions of the sport.
All this mythical fight experience you speak of perry having means absolutely nothing in a boxing ring
Only thing it means is that you don't even understand boxing on the most basic levels the way you treat these things interchangeably like they're in any way equal.
Boxing is a different sport.
Even a mid grade amateur is good enough to beat the vast majority of MMA fighters.
Why rig fights when you're clearly superior to your opponent in every way?
If you're gonna do it, why not pick opponents that will actually garner more credibility? Especially since he gets so much hate for fighting MMA fighters
Im sure there's a few top 20 guys hurting for cash that would gladly take a pay day to take a dive.
Surely, if you're gonna to that route, that would make the most sense
But he chooses to pay guys to take a dive that he has a giant advantage over and wouldn't need to anyways?

The logic is immaculate, truly.

Mike taking damage is not proof that he didn't throw the fight. The fact that Jake took no damage just like every fight besides the Tommy Fury fight should raise suspicions. Especially since he's not fast or nimble. One look at Jakes foot work and it's clear he moves like an oaf.
You're wrong pro and amateur fighting experience means everything. I've watched Nate Diaz's whole career. I know how he moves. You still haven't provided an explanation for nate Diaz's low output numbers in paul fight. yet looking like his old self in the following fight. I've already explained why paying famous ufc fighters to box is a great gimmick and why it's better than paying shitty nobody boxers to take a dive. That should be self explanatory.

 

[AmonTobin]

NDA is common in business. All big fights have them in varying degrees. That isn't evidence of anything.

Woodley was even asked that question and denied it, which sounded very truthful in tone and body language.

He said they'd have to pay him 20 mil for him to actually take a dive. And basically set him up for life

Lol. That was your take away? You're so fucking gullible dude. BTW Woodley fell face first and protected his landing with his arms and shoulders. It was the most fake shit I've ever seen. In health care doctors will drop a persons hand on their own face to test if they're faking being unconscious. If the hand hits them in the face they aren't acting. If they move their hand to spare their face, the doctor has called their bluff. Woodley protecting his face on the landing is proof he was faking it.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

He doesn't have a giant advantage over them though. That's just your way of explaining the improbable to yourself. They are much more skilled and experienced than him.

Again, you are overestimating them (and MMA) and underestimating Jake (and boxing).

Take Perry for example, who the fuck is he really? a dude who had his first ammy fight in 2012 in his 20s. Got signed to the UFC less than 2 years after turning pro, lost most of his fights there. His previous boxing match was him getting stopped by some dude who only ever beat one guy with a winning record.

Why is it so unbelievable to you that a bigger dude who has trained exclusively boxing for 6/7 years could be better than Mike Perry at boxing? are you just getting hung up on the concept of someone being a "pro fighter"?

 

[AstralPanda]

He doesn't have a giant advantage over them though. That's just your way of explaining the improbable to yourself. They are much more skilled and experienced than him. A lifetime's worth in fact. You can't blame them on being old or washed up because Nate Diaz looked just fine in his last fight. Night and day. Please explain why Nate threw like 12 punches in the whole match that didn't touch Jake Paul's face but then threw 50x as many in the first round and the last round of the masvidal fight. Use your brain.

They are much more skilled in MMA.

That's what you don't seem to understand.

MMA is not boxing.

There is a world of difference In the boxing level between an MMA fighter and someone who's trained pure boxing under a legitimate coach in a disciplined way.

In that circumstance, Jake Paul has been the more experienced fighter against everyone except Fury.

Even a mid level amateur boxer who hasn't even gone pro is good enough to beat the vast majority of MMA fighters with relative ease. That's how big of a gap there is between the two sports.

His whole team is dissecting these opponents from every conceivable angle strategically, tactically. Every tendency, every strength and weakness picked apart. Sparring partners are brought in to mimic the style and danger being presented, on an even higher level than they're capable of.

Nate is best on the inside, when he can swarm you and gain momentum.

However, movement, staying on your bike and timed counters are a strong pattern interrupter for Nates style. He was also hit hard early, every time he would move forward, Jake would counter.

All of which lead to hesitancy. As opposed to Masvidal, who struggled to let his hands go and basically moved backwards the entire fight with no real strategy.

Two vastly different scenarios.

Nate is historically a very slow starter as well. Both Conor fights, the masvidal fight in MMA, the Leon Edwards fight, his whole career is full of bouts where he didn't come online until later in the fight. He's literally known for it.

His last fight with Masvidal is actually the only one I can recall off the top of my head where he was 100% on from the jump.


So, again, reaching heavily.

 

[AstralPanda]

Lol. That was your take away? You're so fucking gullible dude. BTW Woodley fell face first and protected his landing with his arms and shoulders. It was the most fake shit I've ever seen. In health care doctors will drop a persons hand on their own face to test if they're faking being unconscious. If the hand hits them in the face they aren't acting. If they move their hand to spare their face, the doctor has called their bluff. Woodley protecting his face on the landing is proof he was faking it.

So you're saying this was a fake knockout.. I feel like I'm in a therapy session with someone who joined a cult at this point.

 

[AstralPanda]

Lol. That was your take away? You're so fucking gullible dude. BTW Woodley fell face first and protected his landing with his arms and shoulders. It was the most fake shit I've ever seen. In health care doctors will drop a persons hand on their own face to test if they're faking being unconscious. If the hand hits them in the face they aren't acting. If they move their hand to spare their face, the doctor has called their bluff. Woodley protecting his face on the landing is proof he was faking it.

Did you not see the huge amount of sweat in the air after that punch landed?

This is getting wild.. lol

 

[AmonTobin]

So you're saying this was a fake knockout.. I feel like I'm in a therapy session with someone who joined a cult at this point.

That's the setup that wows all the kids. You seriously don't think Woodley didn't see, didn't know that was coming??? Are you trolling? Jake literally telegraphs it. I saw that coming when I watched it live.

 

[AmonTobin]

Did you not see the huge amount of sweat in the air after that punch landed?

This is getting wild.. lol

You're so gullible dude. that's a fix. that's a setup. they rehearsed that. They 100% planned that.Yes the sweat flies!!! yes woodley stands at the ready. It went according to plan. It's like you've never seen Woodley fight before. He forgot how to throw punches in this fight just like Nate did.

 

[AmonTobin]

Did you not see the huge amount of sweat in the air after that punch landed?

This is getting wild.. lol

 

[AstralPanda]

That's the setup that wows all the kids. You seriously don't think Woodley didn't see, didn't know that was coming??? Are you trolling? Jake literally telegraphs it. I saw that coming when I watched it live.

Teddy atlas did a video on this exact knockout and broke down the setup.



What I was commenting more on is you saying the knockout was fake though. That's a wild statement.