News I'm watching the Johnny Depp defamation case

[GeneTunney7]

I'm just talking about your opinion here, not you:

I think that's bullshit.

My reasoning is that I have not seen any of his 'acting' performance, I have only what the news and people have reported as to their individual behaviours, and I find my sympathy lies with Depp more than Heard.

The facts speak for themselves as it were.

Perhaps I misspoke or you misunderstood me, but I was not saying that he was acting in the sense that he is lying or being sincere. Getting up in front of a judge, jury and the world’s media is a very daunting task and just the fear of it is enough for most people to simply avoid it totally and roll over. Depp’s performance on the stand has been the best, most comfortable and commanding I have ever seen in a court case, where as Amber has come across like an insincere bitch. I’m sure on some level that Johnny knew that he could relay his side of his story more convincingly than her take of events. Eventually, all these cases come down to a he said vs she said type of thing, and his true target audience is the public. Simply having truth on your side is not enough, you need to be confident and have the ability to persuade that target audience.

There is a very small chance he can win this as she did not even name him in the piece she wrote, and I think he knows that. He is doing this to restore his public image more than anything, and has succeeded tenfold.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

@GeneTunney7
Let's face it, he was past ihs prime, she was in her 20s. His dick got the better of him. Dozens of tales have gone the same way, just $100 million bucks in buttfuck Fairfax not the same way. Only decent thing the 10 months I lived there for.

@Golden Arms
Do you reckon we could do a marriage and divorce thing as a side hustle?

I think we'd make massive bank

 

[fingercuffs]

I think we'd make massive bank

I would marry and divorce the fuck out of you. Who proposes after?

 

[GeneTunney7]

I didn't know he was in a stable marriage when they got together. Not disputing, was he still with Vanessa?

I’m sure it got stale, as all marriages do, and he did not want to put in the hard work as he lives a very hedonistic lifestyle. Just look at the number of relationships he has been in and his issues with impulse control. He sees something and wants it, and being Johnny Depp usually no one tells him no.

So many in Hollywood are just detached from reality, morally bankrupt and trade out partners like regular people trade out oil filters for their car. Didn’t Liz Taylor have like 30 marriages? Lol, Amber is only like 37 and on her 3rd marriage already! I guess the type of person drawn to Hollywood and fame game is going to have some big time foundational issues anyways. You can count the functional and healthy Hollywood families on one hand.

 

[fingercuffs]

I’m sure it got stale, as all marriages do, and he did not want to put in the hard work as he lives a very hedonistic lifestyle. Just look at the number of relationships he has been in and his issues with impulse control. He sees something and wants it, and being Johnny Depp usually no one tells him no.

So many in Hollywood are just detached from reality, morally bankrupt and trade out partners like regular people trade out oil filters for their car. Didn’t Liz Taylor have like 30 marriages? Lol, Amber is only like 37 and on her 3rd marriage already! I guess the type of person drawn to Hollywood and fame game is going to have some big time foundational issues anyways. You can count the functional and healthy Hollywood families on one hand.

I really thought he and Vanessa were broken up, I didn't know they were still together when he and Amber got together.

 

[GeneTunney7]

I really thought he and Vanessa were broken up, I didn't know they were still together when he and Amber got together.

It’s possible that he broke up before they made it official, but he said in the court case that he pretty much fell in love on set and they were both married. Amber was married at that time to a woman too.

I wonder if she ever felt anything for him or he was just a meal ticket. She went from obscure leftover to now being a major star. Johnny gave her a serious red party life and saved her bum life.

 

[fingercuffs]

It’s possible that he broke up before they made it official, but he said in the court case that he pretty much fell in love on set and they were both married. Amber was married at that time to a woman.

I wonder if she ever felt anything for him or he was just a meal ticket. She went from obscure leftover to now being a major star. Johnny gave her a serious red party life and saved her bum life.

Didn't know either of them were married when they got together, I thought he and Vanessa were done and dusted way before before he got Ambered. The texts I send to people about other people, seriously could get me in some grief. I don't mean them in the same way he didn't mean them, you're just sat at the end of your tether and you're an artist with a plethora of words to contrive. But those texts are not doing well for him. She's showing up to court with a blazer and a buttoned up blouse.

 

[RogerB08]

Seriously. I'm with him, sometimes certain people just shouldn'tbe together. I'm certain she did sever his finger, I'm sure she stubbed a cigarette on his face and she is the thunderc*nt out of this who should probably be in jail.
I admire him for fronting it out in court.

Him being buddies with Marylin Manson doesn't speak too well for him either given all that's come out recently. Not trying to play guilt by association, but you are judged (or at least used to be) by the company you keep.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

I would marry and divorce the fuck out of you. Who proposes after?

we just rinse and repeat for eternity

 

[gspieler]

After hearing Depp's testimony, it sounds like Amber really shit the bed when tried to assassinate his character after the fact.

 

[Po]

he definitely did. Johnny Depp seems like a nice guy and I have no hate for him but the levels of Hollywood pretentiousness knows no bounds. I think they’ve all been acting too long and sometimes can’t distinguish between real life and a script anymore.

E.g. will smith having his opposite hand up as he slapped Chris rock, as if in his head he is a professional boxer and so is Chris rock so he needs to throw a check hook to be safe.

That's good technique tho. No fault in that.

 

[CaptHANDSUP]

That's good technique tho. No fault in that.

what’s the point? Guy had no idea it was coming, he got suckered. He wouldn’t be able to react, much less pull a simultaneous counter (check hook).

 

[Po]

what’s the point? Guy had no idea it was coming, he got suckered. He wouldn’t be able to react, much less pull a simultaneous counter (check hook).

What's the point? Just good habits. I do the same thing when there is no opponent at all when i shadow box.

Keep a hand up. Work on good entries and also good exits after throwing. Keep good footwork.

I guess training for Ali made Will Smith the same way.

 

[ssBaldy]

 

[listrahtes]

I'm just talking about your opinion here, not you:

I think that's bullshit.

My reasoning is that I have not seen any of his 'acting' performance, I have only what the news and people have reported as to their individual behaviours, and I find my sympathy lies with Depp more than Heard.

The facts speak for themselves as it were.

But the news reports itself are strongly biased depending on the sympathy of the writers. You dont get objective facts you get preselected "facts" based on emotional connection. Most of their relationship is unknown to us and honestly a lot of the trouble could be even unknown to Depp as he went very deep in his drug parties. It is also a fact that he took (and definitely takes) drugs to the point of blacking out. And you take HIS word for gospel? Pleasssse. Yes he has sympathetic intelligent friends testifying for him , but that also doesnt mean they arent fucked up assholes behind the curtains. Look at his texts. I know quite some people who had troubling divorces, being cheated..etc but none wrote even close to the psychopathic stuff he wrote like fantasizing about ways to kill her.

I am not defending Heard, she is a lying abuser and if I could guess was physical agressive towards him. The problem here is that a lot of people take the word of someone for truth because he knows how to present himself but is a hardcore drug addict for years.
Could very well be that he also injured her in one of his drug binges. We simply dont know and will never as this is just about airing dirty laundry in public.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

They seem like they were meant for each other tbh. Amber seems like shes one of those crazy types that might fling a knife at you...which she apparently did. Johnny seems like the type to drown himself in substances and live two seperate lives. Neither seem like the type of human beings you want to be too close to.

 

[Phlog]

But the news reports itself are strongly biased depending on the sympathy of the writers. You dont get objective facts you get preselected "facts" based on emotional connection. Most of their relationship is unknown to us and honestly a lot of the trouble could be even unknown to Depp as he went very deep in his drug parties. It is also a fact that he took (and definitely takes) drugs to the point of blacking out. And you take HIS word for gospel? Pleasssse. Yes he has sympathetic intelligent friends testifying for him , but that also doesnt mean they arent fucked up assholes behind the curtains. Look at his texts. I know quite some people who had troubling divorces, being cheated..etc but none wrote even close to the psychopathic stuff he wrote like fantasizing about ways to kill her.

I am not defending Heard, she is a lying abuser and if I could guess was physical agressive towards him. The problem here is that a lot of people take the word of someone for truth because he knows how to present himself but is a hardcore drug addict for years.
Could very well be that he also injured her in one of his drug binges. We simply dont know and will never as this is just about airing dirty laundry in public.

I'm going on the facts that they have offered, the worse they are the more they're reported.

What we know is what they think damns the other the most, I'm not interested in the rest, that's just normal shitty stuff.

With all the me too stuff men are absolutely in the spotlight and are essentially guilty until proven innocent, the news organisations are biased as hell towards women. Also news, like yourself are down on anyone suffering from drug addiction, which personally isn't really an issue. The behaviour is what matters.

Amber Heard has 2.5 times the Twitter followers as Johnny Depp, it's hard to believe you that there is a bias towards the less famous drug using male.

 

[Vergilius]

I agree with everything you said, but there is something to say about Johnny bringing this on himself. He was a married 50 year old man that cheated on and abandoned the mother of his children and his wife for a hotter, younger, 20 year old that was ALSO married. And to make matters worse, he was a powerful man producing a movie that she worked on under his supervision. What he did was a terrible thing to do, and tho he did not deserve the abuse, arriving at such a horrible outcome after doing such a horrible thing is all kind of a karmic lesson.

I think it's a wee bit puritan condemning Johnny Depp for doing a "terrible thing" for leaving his wife for another woman. Sh*t happens, people fall in love and relationships break up. His ex-wife doesn't seem to wish him any ill, so who are we to judge?

 

[GeneTunney7]

I think it's a wee bit puritan condemning Johnny Depp for doing a "terrible thing" for leaving his wife for another woman. Sh*t happens, people fall in love and relationships break up. His ex-wife doesn't seem to wish him any ill, so who are we to judge?

Never said it was evil or his wife wished bad upon him, but marriage is sacred and when the foundation of your relationship is co-adultery, you are asking for it. If you up and leave because your dick gets hard for a younger and prettier versioned model then you are asking for trouble and likely shite relationship skills and impulse control.

It may suck, and no one is worthy of being abused, but it is karmic that two adulterers ended up in such a shit show.

 

[listrahtes]

With all the me too stuff men are absolutely in the spotlight and are essentially guilty until proven innocent, the news organisations are biased as hell towards women. Also news, like yourself are down on anyone suffering from drug addiction, which personally isn't really an issue. The behaviour is what matters.

well that is something we agree on 100%. Imo our pov arent far away. I also think Amber is the more fucked up one by far of the two and me too did more harm than good. Depps portrayal at court is also far far away from how he really behaved. Still we have the same values.