If the President does it, it's not Illegal

[44nutman]

How dare you question our Dear Leader the Orange Messiah, The Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla, Lord Trump

 

[Limbo Pete]

Why did Nixon leave office? I can't remember. Did he just get tired of being President?

He obviously didnt read the secret clause in the Constitution that says Presidents can literally do whatever they want

 

[HereticBD]

Oh hey look here's a constitution
I'll be damned... says it right there

"President is above the law."

Time for Trump to get out a chainsaw and finally kill Rosie O'Donnell on live tv

Yeah, you got nothing.

 

[HomerThompson]

He obviously didnt read the secret clause in the Constitution that says Presidents can literally do whatever they want

What a dummy that guy was.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Yeah, you got nothing.

Tune in next week when Trump beats a chained Joe Biden to death with a golf club

 

[HereticBD]

Why did Nixon leave office? I can't remember. Did he just get tired of being President?

He resigned, and was almost immediately pardoned for any crimes he "might" have committed. Charged with nothing. Convicted of nothing. Lived the rest of his life lavishly.

Whoa, they were a little hard on him, don't ya think? Totally not above the law. ROFL.

 

[HomerThompson]

He resigned, and was almost immediately pardoned for any crimes he "might" have committed. Charged with nothing. Convicted of nothing. Lived the rest of his life lavishly.

Whoa, they were a little hard on him, don't ya think? Totally not above the law. ROFL.

The point is if there's the ability to prosecute a President, and there is. It's constitutionally supported. The fact that the powers in the U.S. went easy on Nixon doesn't change the fundamental nature of our Democracy, or the intent and words of the constitution. The President is not above the law.

Eat shit and live.

 

[HereticBD]

The point is if there's the ability to prosecute a President, and there is. It's constitutionally supported.

Nice theory. In practice however...

The President is not above the law.

Yes, he unquestionably is.

Eat shit and live.

 

[dudeguyman]

Well, we all knew this was coming eventually. Apparently, it started before we even knew though. In January, Trump's team sent a letter to Mueller stating that it's impossible for the President to obstruct justice. This is completely ludicrous, and an affront to our Democracy.

Having said that, I look forward to the Trump Bots defending this incredible level of Executive overreach.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/02/politics/trump-special-counsel-memo-avoid-subpoena/index.html

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's lawyers argued in a confidential January letter to special counsel Robert Mueller that the President cannot illegally obstruct the Russia probe because he, as the top law enforcement officer, has authority over all federal investigations, The New York Times reported Saturday.

The 20-page letter from Trump attorney Jay Sekulow and then-Trump lawyer John Dowd, which CNN reported on last week and the Times has obtained, says that Trump could not possibly have committed obstruction in the Russia investigation because the Constitution empowers him to "terminate the inquiry, or even exercise his power to pardon if he so desired."
Trump's "actions here, by virtue of his position as the chief law enforcement officer, could neither constitutionally nor legally constitute obstruction because that would amount to him obstructing himself," Dowd and Sekulow wrote.
The two argued that "no President has ever faced charges of obstruction merely for exercising his constitutional authority" and that a President can "order the termination" of a Justice Department or FBI investigation "at any time and for any reason."


Trump's lawyers sent the letter as part of a broader argument that the President should not have to sit down with the special counsel.
Citing records handed over to the special counsel and interviews Mueller's team has had with White House staff, Sekulow and Dowd wrote in the letter, "In light of these voluntary offerings, your office clearly lacks the requisite need to personally interview the President."

 

[spin]

Tune in next week when Trump beats a chained Joe Biden to death with a golf club

The point is if there's the ability to prosecute a President, and there is. It's constitutionally supported. The fact that the powers in the U.S. went easy on Nixon doesn't change the fundamental nature of our Democracy, or the intent and words of the constitution. The President is not above the law.

Eat shit and live.

He's playing the principle vs reality game.


No need to say anything more

 

[44nutman]

It is not illegal for a father to dictate his sons response to meeting Russians in a building owned by the father. The father can tell the son to say “Hey it’s about adoptions. We love the children’s”
It could be illegal if say the President did something like the above scenario.

 

[Limbo Pete]

He's playing the principle vs reality game.


No need to say anything more

I know
I'm an old hat at this game plus also an irl historian

 

[spin]

I know
I'm an old hat at this game plus also an irl historian

I figured you guys had it covered, it's just such obvious shitposting

 

[HomerThompson]

I figured you guys had it covered, it's just such obvious shitposting

Change your vote, dammit!

 

[Prefect]

It might not be illegal but it most definitely will be retarded.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Nice theory. In practice however...



Yes, he unquestionably is.

Would you be so kind as to cite where the constitution explicitly states potus is immune from any prosecution while in office

 

[Cojopi Extomino]

The President is above the law. Sorry, it's true.

The effort you put into sounding stupid is kind of admirable. But solid argument; “water isn’t wet cause I said so, lalalalala”. Very well thought out.

Already have discussed it. Step up your stalker game.

Where? Can you link me so I can make fun of you some more for being a submissive bitch in another thread?

Uhhh, correct? Seriously Pete, why are Presidents held to a different standard when they break the law? Is it perhaps because they have a different set of rules to play by, than the average citizen?

Still waiting for you to cite the rule of law that absolves a president of any possible criminality. This whole “well it hasn’t happened so it must be true” is the same argument I can use to claim I’m above the law. So are you saying I’m above the law too simply because there’s no precedent of prosecuting me for crimes?

Because even Scyther brought more to the table than that little fella. Try harder.

You're saying they are not above the law, so why don't you prove it? Give me a case where this nice little saying holds any weight at all. I'll wait.

Done: there’s literally nothing in the constitution that says the president can’t be held responsible for wrong doing. It specifically states no one is above the rule of law. And the OP is citing nothing more than Trump’s desperate interpretation of the constitution, not an actual fact contained within it.

So to summarize: you’re completely fucking wrong on every point you’ve made, and now we’re all gonna laugh at you.

Ha, ha.

 

[Seano]

You want to talk about the "legal" question, but understand that it's unsettled. What's there to talk about then? It's unsettled.



Have you? I think you just really hate Trump. Other Presidents have gotten away with far worse than what Trump is accused of. I'd even go so far to say that the Presidents who were brought to task over their "crimes", like Nixon or Clinton, were trivial in comparison to the really bad shit others have gotten away with(at home, or abroad), without any real attention being paid to them at all.



Nah, you just hate Trump.



Because he's doing good work. .



Let me know when the American government actually resembles your definition of that.



Right. Those honorable folks at the FBI, CIA, and Special Council will finally break the chains...

 

[spin]

Change your vote, dammit!

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Sounds like Drumpfs cult members want him to disband the government and declare himself king.