If Pride had a BMF belt who would have earned it ?
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No one, because pride had class.
Sure they had freak show fights but they were always non title.
If some weird alternate reality, practically half the roster.
Enson, Frye, Wandy
Sure they had freak show fights but they were always non title.
If some weird alternate reality, practically half the roster.
Enson, Frye, Wandy
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This 100%. PRIDE had class, world renown prestige. And like you said, the freakshow fights never detracted, never for the title. Even then, it was more massive weight discrepancies. Can x fighter beat this guy who is so much bigger/stronger? Skillshow matches.
And agreed, half their roster were practically BMF'ers.
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He's not the bmf he's the best eva...No one has mentioned the NYBA Phil Baroni???
Bunch of casuals up in here…
Eva.
Or was until....you know...
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The stare down was from the first fight which Wanderlei would have won if there was decisions, but it was special rules where if no one got KOed it was an automatic draw. In the second fight he packed on a bunch of muscle for the OWGP cause he thought he was going to have to fight Barnett or Big Nog and it backfired cause he lost his speed advantage that he had in the first fight.
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Wandy for sure, he fought Cro Cop twice who was way bigger and Hunt and fought other killers as well
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Wand is my pick
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i hate the fact that we now use BMF to describe someone and are using this term in the context of PRIDE FC. the real badasses were the ones who took on challenges, against all odds prevailed. And also the tournament winners, fighting two fights in one night.
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I immediately thought Wand, but he was already the champ
I'd throw minowaman in the mix
He fought anyone, any weight, any time
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then you just want...a PRIDE grand prix or a divisional belt. also won by the axe murderer FWIW
there's levels to this. BMF isn't about who's the best.
I think the easiest vote is Wanderlei.
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That’s a damn tough question. First instinct was wand, but so many ultra bad ass moments happened in pride
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The BMF fights have been:
Masvidal / Diaz
Justin / Dustin
Justin / Max
Where the hell did you get that they were just throwing together random fun fights and not important fights between great fighters?
Wand isn't winning a Pride BMF fight against most of the people he'd have to fight for one unless you give him Sakuraba to guarantee it.
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It’s hard to place anyone over Wand. When you think of violence in MMA, he is king.
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Sorry but Wandy checks all the boxes man
[x] Won a GP
[x] 73% finish rate
[x] Excellent record 22-4-2
[x] Nicknamed the Axe Murderer
[x] has the look
[x] has the reputation
Not saying he's the only one buit he's the best one imo
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Literally all of that is completely irrelevant as to whether or not Wand actuallys WINS a BMF fight. The title is WON in a fight, not GIVEN to someone.
Neither you nor anybody else saying Wand have explained how you imagine he beats guys he could fight for it among his Pride competitors like:
Fedor (beats Wand)
Cro Cop (KO'd Wand)
Nog (probably beats Wand)
Shogun (was thought to be better)
Hendo (KO'd Wand)
Etc.
Who is Wand beating to actually win the title? It's probably not among those guys and those are some of the other obvious choices for a Pride BMF fight he could fight. Heck, even giving him fights like Igor or Sergei are tall orders. BMF fights have been among guys in the same weight class or within 1 of each other so that's who Wand has to beat to win one.
Wand may be the Axe Murderer, but he's simply not likely to actually win a Pride BMF title fight.
