If NFL is A level athleticism

[MarkyMcFly]

Seems my point went over your head, because thats definitely not the only thing football players are doing. Running is what they are doing on top of all the other stuff.

It's like comparing a sprinter that prepares for his 100m only to a sprinter that just ran 7km and does the 100m afterwards.

IT's like comparing a sprinter than ran a 7k and does the 100m afterwards...

To a runner, running 20 yards....but having to worry about a 260 lbs linebacker who runs a 4.5 40 smashing them in half

They both have their intricacies


Also, the broad jump is an event that was in the olympics at one point, now it's mainly in Track and Field comps.

 

[YourBoss]

Standing vertical vs 1 step vs running are different. Ronaldo was measured at 30-31inches standing vertical in 2014 go look it up

doesnt matter. its the same muscles.
You tell me the fat dude could jump 40 inch 1 step vertical. doubt it. And those NFL and NBA players all train specifically for this stuff. I very much doubt Ronaldo trains this stuff at all.

 

[Ube]

Man you guys are still arguing about this? Different sports require different forms of athleticism.

 

[Quebec Nick]

How did Greg Hardy do so well with lifelong exercise induced asthma?

Because you take your pump and you breath just as good as anyone.

I have asthma since I'm 8 years old and I train everyday (BJJ or running) sometimes I take the pump when I feel I need it and sometimes I don't but it just helps me if I have a cold or something.

It's not freaking lung cancer it's just that you have more inflammation than most people and you react more to allergens and effort. The pump doesn't give you a boost it's just stop inflamation into your lungs and puts you on an even field with everyone else.

One of the best runner in history Gebrselassie opted out of the Beijing Olympics marathon because they banned is asthma pump in one of the most polluted city in the world.

 

[TheAmericanGazelle]

The obsession with "A-level athleticism" is generally based in latent homosexuality with a few sprinkles of BBC desire as a result of heavy pornography consumption.

Many studies have shown this.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

That's montravius Adam's, 304 lbs and his vertical at the combine was 1 inch less than Ronaldo's 30 inch vertical. He also ran a 4.87 second 40 yard dash. Like most lineman he keeps his weight up specifically for his job. If he slimmed down to 285 and spent a few months training for it he would have a better vertical than ronaldo

I'm surprised Ronaldo vertical is not higher man

Soccer players are bums lol

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

I'm surprised Ronaldo vertical is not higher man

Soccer players are bums lol

Bum sports followed by bum countries confirmed.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Bum sports followed by bum countries confirmed.

I'm a bum then lol

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Standing vertical vs 1 step vs running are different. Ronaldo was measured at 30-31inches standing vertical in 2014 go look it up

D1 how does box jumps equate to standing vertical?

It's obviously much easier isn't it?

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

I'm a bum then lol

I’m sorry Sherbro. Put on a wrestlemania dvd and change your bum life.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

I’m sorry Sherbro. Put on a wrestlemania dvd and change your bum life.

Haha only if it's old skool wwf shit

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

D1 how does box jumps equate to standing vertical?

It's obviously much easier isn't it?

Not really easier just cant equate since you're lifting your knees

 

[kflo]

Bolt wanted to try longer and in Europe, but he didn't make the cut despite his athletic ability. Football players are also getting paid more than NFL players and there's no risk of CTE. Only people that can't make it in football would ever consider murican football. It's the same argument with MMA as one of the MMA greats Aldo couldn't make a football career in Brazil.

bolt isn't a soccer player. you can't just claim him as one because he wanted to dabble in the sport as another hobby.

i guess if you can't make it in basketball, then baseball, you go to soccer and if you can't make it in any of those you play football? football average salary is close to $3m a year, across 1700 players. why are you trying to present them as low earners? it's about the same average as la liga.

Total average is absolutely not meaningless if you're comparing sports and acting like people transitioning from the NFL are some kind of A-level-athletes compared to MMA fighters by default. You can't only look at peak performers and say NFL players are A-level. This should be self evident and obvious even to an idiot.

total average is meaningless when we are discussing athletes across completely different positional objectives. the average size of an nfl offensive lineman is 6'5 315 lbs. the average receiver and defensive back is about 6' 200 lbs. their jobs are completely different. among 6' humans the wr / db group are elite athletes. among 6'5 humans who can lift and move heavy things, the nfl offensive linemen are elite athletes. and this is true for everyone in between as well. this is of course fact.

Murican student athlete slave market tests don't mean shit. Get the grown ups involved and it'll make more sense maybe. Also, no football player comparison.

this makes no sense at all. i don't know what "no football comparison" means either.

 

[Takamine86]

@Takamine86

why you dodging my question, son?

My question - do you believe Arthur Jones would win a fight against Jon Jones?

I will gladly answer your question, but as I already told you, before I answer your question, you address the post I made to you first.

If you're not going to address the points I have made first, as far as I'm concerned, you've conceded to me. So there is no longer any point of me debating with you, you've already waved the white flag. But if have any counter arguments to the points I have made in my post, I gladly respond to that as well as any question you have for me.

 

[Regal Boy]

People on this forum are coping low IQ morons who believe in the "multiple intelligence" theory.

In reality, there is no such thing as "body-kinesthetic" intelligence. Athleticism is a form of muscle memory that can be trained.

 

[Khaiser]

I will gladly answer your question, but as I already told you, before I answer your question, you address the post I made to you first.

If you're not going to address the points I have made first, as far as I'm concerned, you've conceded to me. So there is no longer any point of me debating with you, you've already waved the white flag. But if have any counter arguments to the points I have made in my post, I gladly respond to that as well as any question you have for me.

How bout you summarise your post into something that has a question, son?

 

[Khaiser]

bolt isn't a soccer player. you can't just claim him as one because he wanted to dabble in the sport as another hobby.

i guess if you can't make it in basketball, then baseball, you go to soccer and if you can't make it in any of those you play football? football average salary is close to $3m a year, across 1700 players. why are you trying to present them as low earners? it's about the same average as la liga.



total average is meaningless when we are discussing athletes across completely different positional objectives. the average size of an nfl offensive lineman is 6'5 315 lbs. the average receiver and defensive back is about 6' 200 lbs. their jobs are completely different. among 6' humans the wr / db group are elite athletes. among 6'5 humans who can lift and move heavy things, the nfl offensive linemen are elite athletes. and this is true for everyone in between as well. this is of course fact.



this makes no sense at all. i don't know what "no football comparison" means either.

Saying something is fact doesn’t make it fact, son.

The highest paid 5 athletes in sport in 2019 are all to be found in football, boxing and tennis. All 3 sports are global and accessible. This puts to bed the idea that the best athletes are drawn to the NFL/NBA because it makes the most money. That is a fact.

 

[Khaiser]

The average salary for an NFL player was $2.1m per annum in 18/19.

That’s the same average salary for someone playing football for Burnley <45>

 

[Takamine86]

doesnt matter. its the same muscles.
You tell me the fat dude could jump 40 inch 1 step vertical. doubt it. And those NFL and NBA players all train specifically for this stuff. I very much doubt Ronaldo trains this stuff at all.

It does matter actually, here is Ronaldo himself telling you in the video it matters and demonstrating the difference.

Ronaldo has a running 30 inch vertical That is running. Guys in the NFL/NBA get their jumping measured standing in place like Ronaldo did in his first jump. & even a lot of the big guys jump higher than 30 inches standing in place.




Saying that athletes like Ronaldo doesn't work on Jumping just shows you don't know much about sports or athletes in general. All elite level athletes who compete in a sport that require running/jumping do Plyometrics. Soccer does require both running and jumping.

Jumping is how athletes measure and work on their explosiveness. That GSP double we all love so much. The explosiveness comes from being able to do this.

 

[kflo]

Saying something is fact doesn’t make it fact, son.

The highest paid 5 athletes in sport in 2019 are all to be found in football, boxing and tennis. All 3 sports are global and accessible. This puts to bed the idea that the best athletes are drawn to the NFL/NBA because it makes the most money. That is a fact.

tennis and boxing are not "accessible" to most kids growing up. there is generally a high cost of entry in tennis, and boxing is not practiced much at the youth level and you have few gyms and much fewer good gyms.

the average nba salary is double the premier league average so don't just post top 5 and act as if that itself shows where the money is. comparing the pay overall in the nba to boxing overall is laughable. tennis too. you have about 1700 nfl players with an average salary of close to $3m across those 1700. so i think there's more to "following the money" than looking at the highest paid.

and i'm not sure how you're addressing my fact by arguing against something i never argued to begin with. i never said the best athletes simply follow the money. there are many factors that influence the sports they play. in the US, the main sports though that draw the most talent are baseball, basketball and football. they have the biggest infrastructure, the biggest $$$, and lowest cost of entry, and the potential for money and fame. and in the case of football and basketball, raw athleticism is a big differentiator (moreso in the nfl).

i've been respectful to you, take that son shit elsewhere, bro.