If Manny beats Floyd

[Strange King]

It would move him above floyd on the goat standings but theres way more people above him .

I dont think so. Being KO'd not to long ago(3 times in his career) losing to morales and bradley and in some eyes never beating juan. Beating floyd once who has never lost and is already considered the best of all time, pac will not be ranked over floyd. If he is put above floyd then those people dont know shit about boxing

camacho beating SRL does not put camacho above him in the all time standings

 

[ironfist05]

As much as I'd like to belong to an incredibly important era, neither Pac nor Mayweather will be the greatest of all time. That's mostly down to Ray Robinson, Harry Greb, Sam Langford, and Henry Armstrong. Those are the candidates and nobody else can really draw in (Ezzard Charles on a good day has a real gripe).

no love for Archie Moore? He's up there. I think boxrec has him #1 AT, but then against, that's boxrec, which has a weird system.

 

[Seano]

no love for Archie Moore? He's up there. I think boxrec has him #1 AT, but then against, that's boxrec, which has a weird system.

Thats ridiculous.

 

[nac386]

Beating floyd once who has never lost and is already considered the best of all time, pac will not be ranked over floyd.

Is he? He's self appointed as the best ever, he came up with that all on his own. I haven't seen very many people agree with him.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Is he? He's self appointed as the best ever, he came up with that all on his own. I haven't seen very many people agree with him.

SRR is the best of all time...

 

[flat1985]

1-1 with Pac and a win over Marquez. Bradley beat Marquez clearly.

Pac clearly won both fights with Bradley.

 

[Seano]

Pac clearly won both fights with Bradley.

You are incorrect. Bradley will always be 1-1 with Pacquiao.

 

[flat1985]

Even if floyd lost he would still be the greatest of all time. As long as he has been doing and as great as hes been it wont matter what happens with pac.

I am a big Floyd fan but he is not the best ever not even top 10.

 

[flat1985]

You are incorrect. Bradley will always be 1-1 with Pacquiao.

On paper yes.

 

[Sir Punchalot]

They're definitely 1-1.

 

[kudo420]

You are incorrect. Bradley will always be 1-1 with Pacquiao.

So if pac beats Floyd exactly the same way the pac and Bradley fight played out you gonna defend pac like you do Bradley?

And yes I know that in history books it will always be a win for Bradley.

 

[Seano]

They're definitely 1-1.

And Roy still doesn't have that gold medal.

I had them fighting to a draw myself. If you check the fight night RBR thread, a lot of people thought Bradley won too. That fight is an example of the fans being wrong.

also, I've seen the press row scores. No need to google that. Someone is doing that right now I bet.

 

[flat1985]

They're definitely 1-1.

lol the suprise on the korean's face haha

 

[Seano]

So if pac beats Floyd exactly the same way the pac and Bradley fight played out you gonna defend pac like you do Bradley?

And yes I know that in history books it will always be a win for Bradley.

If he gets the win he gets the win. Our scores sitting on our couches our irrelevant to anyone but ourselves. If I think Floyd won, then I'll say so but I don't expect everyone else to do so because I say so.

Bradley won the first Pac fight and thats not up for debate.

Pac/Bradley was close and competitive, you could hear Roach telling Pac the fight was close in the corner and Pac came out and tried to showboat. Pac blew that fight. Showboating and fighting for 30 seconds of every round isn't going to get you the nod with some judges, no matter how loud the crowd is.

 

[flat1985]

And Roy still doesn't have that gold medal.

I had them fighting to a draw myself. If you check the fight night RBR thread, a lot of people thought Bradley won too. That fight is an example of the fans being wrong.

also, I've seen the press row scores. No need to google that. Someone is doing that right now I bet.

About 90% of boxingscene forum had it for Pac.

 

[Seano]

About 90% of boxingscene forum had it for Pac.

Wow, really? Boxingscene? Well now I think Pac really did win.

 

[flat1985]

Wow, really? Boxingscene? Well now I think Pac really did win.

Yet sherdog forum holds more weight.

 

[Seano]

Yet sherdog forum holds more weight.

didn't say that either. You're trying too hard.

 

[kudo420]

If he gets the win he gets the win. Our scores sitting on our couches our irrelevant to anyone but ourselves. If I think Floyd won, then I'll say so but I don't expect everyone else to do so because I say so.

Bradley won the first Pac fight and thats not up for debate.

Pac/Bradley was close and competitive, you could hear Roach telling Pac the fight was close in the corner and Pac came out and tried to showboat. Pac blew that fight. Showboating and fighting for 30 seconds of every round isn't going to get you the nod with some judges, no matter how loud the crowd is.

My point was that every time someone brings that fight up you are the first person to say nope its 1-1 and I agree with you. But I just wanted to know if you would do the same thing if the pac vs Floyd fight ends the same way?

Even if you think Floyd won but the majority here say pac won plus press row scores? are you gonna defend pac the same way you do Bradley?

 

[flat1985]

My point was that every time someone brings that fight up you are the first person to say nope its 1-1 and I agree with you. But I just wanted to know if you would do the same thing if the pac vs Floyd fight ends the same way?

Even if you think Floyd won but the majority here say pac won plus press row scores? are you gonna defend pac the same way you do Bradley?

You can tell he has a little hatred for pac for some reason.