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What about yogurt? Are you allowed to at least eat that
Ido talking about not training with vegans
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Not with dairy in, though there's some extremely good alternatives now a days.. the Oatly Greek Style I genuinely can't tell the difference... And I was a yoghurt snob.
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I always envisioned a super mma gym run by Ido Portal as touchnut teacher, coach Edmund for dem hands, Dolce is the nutrionist, Ngannous Rastaman trainer will handle wrestling and BJJ and finally, Fabia as a Sage/lover/guru and will also teach how to chase ur oponent with knife. The mma Avengers. U cant lose with that lineup!!
It is a systematic review of the existing studies and yes it is legit, it follows the Cochrane guidelines and only includes randomized controlled trials.
There is also this one, more recent, also very legit:
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/10/8/e033687
Bear in mind those studies are for treating severe B12 deficiencies so it's much more demanding than daily supplementation.
So oral supplementation is definitely fine.
Which should be obvious... omnivores don't inject themselves with bacon and steak.
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Right, but I know she specifically mentioned "brain fog" as a reason. That seems like something just nebulous enough that it could be contorted to any particular goal. I'm wondering if she actually had something to support a deficiency (not that it would support her allegation that it was caused by veganism) or if she just threw it out there as an excuse.
Help me get it then. I understand what he's saying about not turning down meat in the moment with regards to the particular animal on the plate but he then went on to explicitly acknowledge the impact of these moments as a collective. If he wants to make the point that people can make a positive difference with reduction efforts or without total abstinence, then he betrayed his efforts by acknowledging that we are capable of almost entirely avoiding the dilemma in the first place if we make certain choices. He's simultaneously framing this decision to eat a plate of meat in any particular moment as inconsequential because it doesn't matter to the dead animal already on the plate and meaningful because declining it could prevent the next dead animal on a plate. It's astoundingly contradictory.
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Whats wrong with dairy?
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thanks for the links.
Its weird i was always told only the methylcoblimin sublingual under tongue works slightly but injection is the sure fire way.
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Cows milk.. It's a very fucked up practice usually involving artificial insemination, taking mother's away from children, selective breeding etc etc ... Many deem it a crueler industry than the meat one.
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Your good with me bro... rock on. What I have a problem with is all these pencil dick bitches trying to say that they're right & we're wrong. Fook that
At 1:14 from the video in the OP... this douche bag kid says "show them the protein situation." & then shows his fooking starving ass 6 pack as supposed proof that his carnivorous 6 pack is different from a vegan's. Fooking hell do I ever worry for this new generation of kids.
It seems to be true that you'll see a difference at the highest level of body building, but who wants to look like that. The fact is that you can look ripped, sexy & lean & mean as a vegan & be healthy as fook... & since you don't have rotting meat in your intestines, your farts don't stink as bad. (true fact bitches... our shit literally doesn't stink as bad as yourz so suck on that
)Especially today, we know exactly what to supplement with in order to make up the difference, & we know exactly how to load up on protein for example which has become the centerpiece of the topic.
So vegans have to supplement with B12? True... but did your dumb ass know that the cattle industry has fooked their own fucking cattle with their fuckery for so fucking long that that they actually have to inject fooking B12 into their cattle meat because they're now deficient in it? Did you know that? Look that shit up before you shoot back some smart ass comment to me about how a vegan or even a pescitarian has to supplement B12. Don't look now, but so do you muther fookeh... your meat provider is just injecting the shit before you buy it. Both are supplements... so don't give me some bullshit about a meat diet doesn't require supplements. Especially while your vitamin D depleted basement dwelling ass hasn't seen the sun in 3 fucking weeks. Point being that even meat eaters need to supplement.
It can look terrifyingly complicated when you first enter this study for yourself. However, It's like anything scientific... once you understand it... it's actually not that complicated. This saying here... tells us a lot about why the vegan diet has failed so much in the past for people & thus has gotten a ton of bad press.... they just didn't know what they were doing. With what we know today, it's absolutely possible to meet any of your nutritional needs with a vegan diet.
Don't get me wrong... you really gotta know wtf you're doing... & you gotta get one of those DNA tests too to see what genetic natural deficiencies are that you might have... that you gotta make up for in diet choices or supplements, but that also goes for carnivorez too. Everyone needs to know what they're biologically gifted in & more importantly biologically deficient in. (23andme.com) Once you figure that out, you simply use the science available to develop an eating lifestyle around your specific situation. There's a lot of mis-information out there... (such as these jerk offs in the video in the OP) but if you keep at it, your personal path will become crystal clear. It's easy. So figure it out for you & quit bothering me.
I'm personally a pescitarian. My carnivorous friend calls me a "Pesk" when we go out to eat together to throw bro shots at me to the waitress while I'm ordering, but I'm easily way more healthy than him despite his unreal genetically gifted matabolism that allows him to shovel in moundz of crap & not gain a single fooking pound. (Yes I'm jealous as fook about that) Anywayz... we're talking about Vegans & I actually eat fish & dairy without a second thought... but I've extensively studied the scientific findings on being a full on Vegan as I developed my choice of culinary intake... & it's totally do-able. It's a helluvalot simpler as a pescitarian.... but if you supplement correctly & build an eating lifestyle around your Vegan choice... there's plenty of information that can show you the shortcomings of the diet & how you can over come them to live a healthy & happy life.
In closing I'd like to say, who gives a fook what other people eat. Focus on yourself, get a genetic test done, get your gut biome in order, supplement with vit. D if you don't go outside enough, & carve out an eating lifestyle you're happy with & leave me teh fook alone about wtf I eat. (unless your my buddy who throwz bro shots at me because that's actually pretty fooking entertaining. & trust me... his "Standard American Diet" (SAD) eating ass will be taking some shots back too
)For shock value.... dedicate a good hour study on "irradiation in foods" yeah that's fucking nuclear waste being fed to you. They can twist it all they want but that's wtf it is... & their sales pitch is that it kills all the harmful bacteria in the food. Guess what else it kills? ALL THE FOOKING LIVING ENZYMES. Which is the best part about whatever teh fook you're eating. That's how they get the longer shelf life.... they've killed anything living in it. Your living cells want living food. They thrive off of it. So feed them living food & your living cells will thrive. This is easy. That's the true true. You can eat "SOME" dead food... but if you haven't focused on it... you're probably eating way more than is healthy & you'll pay the consequences & blame god for some disease that struck down your innocent ass in the dead of night. Really? No fooking responsibility put on all the bullshit you've been shovelling into your pie hole all these years. Geez... the health of the body I walk around in isn't important enough to study is it?
or is it?
Anywayz... It's against USA law to irradiate organically labelled food... so to simplify it... just buy organic... or grow your own... (without the fooking pesticides.) learn how to companion crop & how to use natural methods to deter pests such as helpful nematodes & shit like that. There's a ton of things you can do without spraying a single fooking chemical on your precious food you've spent so much time & care into growing... that will enter your body & either help it or poison it with chemicals per the choices you make about your food intake.
or just do what you want. Teh fook do I care? but don't call me out muther fucker about what I want to eat. It's none of your fucking business. If you don't mind leaving me teh fook alone to do wtf I want to do with my life... then god bless you... none of the harsh stuff I said here was aimed at you... & fuck those bitches in teh OP's video.
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Were you always vegan or did you just become one from browsing the internet and researching? At what point did you become vegan if you were not one since birth?
What an ugly wall of broscience bullshit...Your good with me bro... rock on. What I have a problem with is all these pencil dick bitches trying to say that they're right & we're wrong. Fook that
At 1:14 from the video in the OP... this douche bag kid says "show them the protein situation." & then shows his fooking starving ass 6 pack as supposed proof that his carnivorous 6 pack is different from a vegan's. Fooking hell do I ever worry for this new generation of kids.
It seems to be true that you'll see a difference at the highest level of body building, but who wants to look like that. The fact is that you can look ripped, sexy & lean & mean as a vegan & be healthy as fook... & since you don't have rotting meat in your intestines, your farts don't stink as bad. (true fact bitches... our shit literally doesn't stink as bad as yourz so suck on that
Especially today, we know exactly what to supplement with in order to make up the difference, & we know exactly how to load up on protein for example which has become the centerpiece of the topic.
So vegans have to supplement with B12? True... but did your dumb ass know that the cattle industry has fooked their own fucking cattle with their fuckery for so fucking long that that they actually have to inject fooking B12 into their cattle meat because they're now deficient in it? Did you know that? Look that shit up before you shoot back some smart ass comment to me about how a vegan or even a pescitarian has to supplement B12. Don't look now, but so do you muther fookeh... your meat provider is just injecting the shit before you buy it. Both are supplements... so don't give me some bullshit about a meat diet doesn't require supplements. Especially while your vitamin D depleted basement dwelling ass hasn't seen the sun in 3 fucking weeks. Point being that even meat eaters need to supplement.
It can look terrifyingly complicated when you first enter this study for yourself. However, It's like anything scientific... once you understand it... it's actually not that complicated. This saying here... tells us a lot about why the vegan diet has failed so much in the past for people & thus has gotten a ton of bad press.... they just didn't know what they were doing. With what we know today, it's absolutely possible to meet any of your nutritional needs with a vegan diet.
Don't get me wrong... you really gotta know wtf you're doing... & you gotta get one of those DNA tests too to see what genetic natural deficiencies are that you might have... that you gotta make up for in diet choices or supplements, but that also goes for carnivorez too. Everyone needs to know what they're biologically gifted in & more importantly biologically deficient in. (23andme.com) Once you figure that out, you simply use the science available to develop an eating lifestyle around your specific situation. There's a lot of mis-information out there... (such as these jerk offs in the video in the OP) but if you keep at it, your personal path will become crystal clear. It's easy. So figure it out for you & quit bothering me.
I'm personally a pescitarian. My carnivorous friend calls me a "Pesk" when we go out to eat together to throw bro shots at me to the waitress while I'm ordering, but I'm easily way more healthy than him despite his unreal genetically gifted matabolism that allows him to shovel in moundz of crap & not gain a single fooking pound. (Yes I'm jealous as fook about that) Anywayz... we're talking about Vegans & I actually eat fish & dairy without a second thought... but I've extensively studied the scientific findings on being a full on Vegan as I developed my choice of culinary intake... & it's totally do-able. It's a helluvalot simpler as a pescitarian.... but if you supplement correctly & build an eating lifestyle around your Vegan choice... there's plenty of information that can show you the shortcomings of the diet & how you can over come them to live a healthy & happy life.
In closing I'd like to say, who gives a fook what other people eat. Focus on yourself, get a genetic test done, get your gut biome in order, supplement with vit. D if you don't go outside enough, & carve out an eating lifestyle you're happy with & leave me teh fook alone about wtf I eat. (unless your my buddy who throwz bro shots at me because that's actually pretty fooking entertaining. & trust me... his "Standard American Diet" (SAD) eating ass will be taking some shots back too
For shock value.... dedicate a good hour study on "irradiation in foods" yeah that's fucking nuclear waste being fed to you. They can twist it all they want but that's wtf it is... & their sales pitch is that it kills all the harmful bacteria in the food. Guess what else it kills? ALL THE FOOKING LIVING ENZYMES. Which is the best part about whatever teh fook you're eating. That's how they get the longer shelf life.... they've killed anything living in it. Your living cells want living food. They thrive off of it. So feed them living food & your living cells will thrive. This is easy. That's the true true. You can eat "SOME" dead food... but if you haven't focused on it... you're probably eating way more than is healthy & you'll pay the consequences & blame god for some disease that struck down your innocent ass in the dead of night. Really? No fooking responsibility put on all the bullshit you've been shovelling into your pie hole all these years. Geez... the health of the body I walk around in isn't important enough to study is it?
or is it?
Anywayz... It's against USA law to irradiate organically labelled food... so to simplify it... just buy organic... or grow your own... (without the fooking pesticides.) learn how to companion crop & how to use natural methods to deter pests such as helpful nematodes & shit like that. There's a ton of things you can do without spraying a single fooking chemical on your precious food you've spent so much time & care into growing... that will enter your body & either help it or poison it with chemicals per the choices you make about your food intake.
or just do what you want. Teh fook do I care? but don't call me out muther fucker about what I want to eat. It's none of your fucking business. If you don't mind leaving me teh fook alone to do wtf I want to do with my life... then god bless you... none of the harsh stuff I said here was aimed at you... & fuck those bitches in teh OP's video.
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My parents were both sporadically, I grew up probably 80% vegetarian, my Dad was vegan for 18 years before i was born and a trained Vegan Chef.. honestly though my decision came from watching YouTube videos of conversation and debates on it, which then led to doing my own research into the nutritional side and watching the film's often associated with it.
Has been about 9 months now.
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What's ugly about it? The part you didn't understand or the part you didn't want to hear?
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Vegetarian diet is good, but vegan diet is very difficult to maintain without being malnutritioned. There are no indigenous people living like that for a reason. There are carnivore people though.
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so your parents are hippies? I know some guy who was vegan or vegetarian since birth but his family are hindu.
Which part did you get from actual scientific litterature?
Apparently you're in grave danger if you eat anything before getting 23andmed first... LMFAO
And the part on irradated food, it's all made up by activists websites.
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A little I guess, though very far from your stereotype , they were more so "punks" I would say, but not the super crusty kind.. though my Dad has passed now and my Mother is quite conservative now a days.
I'd be intrigued to talk to more people who have been vegan from birth, know a fair amount of Vegetarians but it's nowhere near the same thing.
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Agreed, but I'm not giving up meat. I wish that it was easier to be able to know what meat in the supermarket has been ethically raised (to any degree). "Organic", "free range", "grassfed", "all natural", etc. etc. etc. I do the best I can, but then you're told ____ (insert label) doesn't mean jack.
