Law ICE tracking app

[Confucamus]

Much like how citizens can be informed where ICE agents are located so they can avoid being in a potentially high tension situation.

Yeah, that's not what this is for. You know that. It's meant to help illegal aliens escape justice.

Either way, it is perfectly legal to tell people where you saw law enforcement. Regardless of what side of the issue you're on, you can't police people's ability to say "i saw some cops over there"

Telling people "where you saw them" is a little different than actively tracking their location and warning illegal immigrants in the area so they can avoid arrest.

 

[Damien Karras]

Yeah, that's not what this is for. You know that. It's meant to help illegal aliens escape justice.


Telling people "where you saw them" is a little different than actively tracking their location and warning illegal immigrants in the area so they can avoid arrest.

What's the raison d'être for the speed trap location feature on Waze then?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Yeah, that's not what this is for. You know that. It's meant to help illegal aliens escape justice.


Telling people "where you saw them" is a little different than actively tracking their location and warning illegal immigrants in the area so they can avoid arrest.

The legal distinction is functionally non existent. It is an app where you elect to report where you saw them. Perfectly legal. What people do with that information is on them. I, as a person born here, don't want to be around them either because nothing positive will come from it. Nothing wrong about that.

If there was a social media account doing the same thing it would also be legal. It just isn't something you can control

 

[Crazy Source]

Not to mention that there were more deportations under Obama than Trump

Obama was able to maintain due diligence and it cost less, and it was more effective.

Because what is being done now is for optics, not results. This is everything Trump does.

 

[Source]

TBH I always wondered how this was allowed

Google maps has started doing it as well

I believe it is considered part of the 1st Amendment. Same way you can signal other drivers there is a speed trap ahead.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

I believe it is considered part of the 1st Amendment. Same way you can signal other drivers there is a speed trap ahead.

Yeah. They're public servants, so theyre operations in plain view are not subject to privacy

 

[Hog-train]

Was your friend tackled, shackled, thrown in prison without due diligence before being deported? Was he sent to a ln alligator Alcatraz? Was he sent to a foreign country's prison?

Not sure why you think your anecdote adds anything to the topic. Nobody is saying illegal aliens shouldn't be deported. There is a police state in effect and now Trump is threatening to deport US citizens to boot.

There's this fan fiction going on that no one is getting due process before being deported. Due process does not mean a full hearing. Oftentimes, it's just a cursory review by an immigration judge.

Everyone complaining about "no due process" is really talking about what's called "expedited removal."

Expedited removal was created in 1996 and has typically been used at the border to quickly expel those who cross illegally. Now it is being used throughout the country.

"Under the expanded expedited removal policy, undocumented immigrants anywhere in the United States, who cannot prove they have resided in the U.S. for at least two years will be subject to an expedited deportation process."

Every President has used expedited removal in the past. George Bush used it to deport anyone within two weeks of entry and within 100 miles from the border. Obama and Biden also used expedited removal and it's a big reason Obama's deportation numbers were so large.

All Trump did was expand the policy so they're using it for anywhere in the country and for anyone who came in the last two years.

Trump is also using expedited removal for people coming into immigration court and as soon as their asylum cases get dismissed, he's removing them.

So technically, what he's doing is completely legal. All this hand wringing about "no due process" is not true at all. The cursory review of the case is getting due process.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

"They actually went to the spawn points."

 

[Ramon Antonio]

Seems like a risky app.

People could abuse this by making false reports and causing panic among the illegals.

Government could target the app to reveal location data of users etc.

 

[fingercuffs]

These people could’ve just entered America legally and not have to live paranoid with an app sending them constant alerts.

Why didn’t they enter America through the legal channels with appropriate documentation?

Have you had your head in the sand? Princess Papaya Pussygrabber's deporting people who are here legally. He's even talked about deporting American citizens.

 

[fingercuffs]

Does Waze interfere with law enforcement by telling you where the speed traps are set?

There was some guy on here years ago whining about not wearing a seatbelt signs like law enforcement were out to get him. When it's the exact opposite.

 

[fingercuffs]

There were cases that went to court about people physically notifying people of speed traps on the side of the road. Pretty it was ruled that they didn't interfere, so the apps would be fine.

If anything the app is encouraging you to follow traffic laws by keeping you aware of consequences

In California, law enforcement need to notify online before they set up routine pull overs for DUI/speed etc (what are they called?) It always makes me laugh with everyone on local Facebook groups harping on about their rights being this is a drinking town with no UBER.

 

[Fossor]

Seems like a risky app.

People could abuse this by making false reports and causing panic among the illegals.

Government could target the app to reveal location data of users etc.

The app was probably made by ICE. By setting off a few coordinated false alarms, the illegals could be directed straight to the Alligator Alcatraz.

 

[ShadowRun]

Have you had your head in the sand? Princess Papaya Pussygrabber's deporting people who are here legally. He's even talked about deporting American citizens.

Shit big Mike you better go back to your country before you end up in alligator jail

 

[Fluffernutter]

These people could’ve just entered America legally and not have to live paranoid with an app sending them constant alerts.

Why didn’t they enter America through the legal channels with appropriate documentation?

1. Build the wall.
2. Increase the size of the consulates abroad.
3. Increase the amount of FSO Consular officers.
4. Update the visas and visa process to allow for more people to enter legally.

 

[fingercuffs]

Shit big Mike you better go back to your country before you end up in alligator jail

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[Mr Holmes]

Many did.

This is about rules that just arbitrarily changed.

The rules allow for rules that just arbitrarily change.

 

[Siver!]

The rules allow for rules that just arbitrarily change.

He said "they could have just entered legally".

Many did.

 

[Mr Holmes]

He said "they could have just entered legally".

Many did.

Don't forget to read the fine print.

 

[Confucamus]

What's the raison d'être for the speed trap location feature on Waze then?

So that they're not speeding when they come up to the area of the speed trap. Please explain how this is the same. Are illegal aliens only breaking the law when they're in a certain area?