Absolutely. I’m not arguing any of those points because I don’t really disagree with you on the specifics or nor the details . I’m also not trying to catch you in a, “gotcha”
As per his salary, chiros in the Oregon average 90-107k. He’s in a wealthy suburb of a very wealthy city so clearing 100 K is reasonable.
Not playing gotcha either. Just telling it like it is.
I am genuinely curious when you think somebody who’s here illegally should be safe from deportation prior to being a full-fledged legal citizen.
Pretty simple really. Anyone that has some kind of protected status - ongoing asylum cases, TPS, DACA or humanitarian parole - AND did not commit any crimes or lied on their applications can't be deported. Anyone else that's illegal can be deported.
And those protected people are actually not being deported. Any stories claiming that are lying and full of shit. There are a whopping 2.6 million people in this country that are waiting on an asylum claim. If Trump is actually deporting all asylees illegally, he'd be doing a lot higher numbers since we know where these people are.
What is happening is that Trump is letting the TPS of hundreds of thousands expire so he can deport them later and putting a pause on any more additional asylum cases.
I understand that we might not have all the details but I would rather take a story at face value and adjust my perspective as new information comes out rather than assume the worst wondering/hoping more information that paints this person in a negative light comes out.
If we take this particular story at face value and allow him to stay, here's what we're agreeing to:
A person can come and overstay their visa. If they simply apply for a green card, they're automatically allowed to stay for years (because that's how long these things take from a country like Iran.)
Simply applying for a green card doesn't give a person the right to stay here. He obviously didn't file for an adjustment of status because he'd be allowed to stay if he did.
I also can’t say why he didn’t bother going through the government red tape except to say that after 40 years in the American bureaucratic system myself it is a slog. I could understand why somebody might get married, start a family, start a business, and then slowly meander through the citizenship process at their own pace.
Well that's a really stupid thing to do since he came in during Trump's presidency who was trying to deport people then. He should have immediately applied for an adjustment of status (which is far easier to get than a green card and the normal prerequisite for a person in his situation) once he got married.
On the surface it feels like ICE is going after guys like this because it is easier (and safer) than catching dangerous criminals.
Both right and left wing media is constantly lying on both sides of this issue. Like constantly.
There are three main groups being deported. Here is what's happening:
1. They are going after criminals, but they are obviously hard to catch and require a lot of manpower just for one person. There are an estimated 650,000 illegals with a criminal record according to the NY Times. Getting all of those is going to be tough.
While we're going after the criminals, if the agents run into any people from the next two groups, they're also being detained.
2. The other large group are illegals with final deportation orders. There are 1.4 million people in this country that have exhausted all legal avenues to stay here and a judge ordered them deported. That means they got full due process and all appeals are done.
This is the main group that we keep hearing SOB stories about in the media. And the main people they're going after when they raid a particular location like a factory. They did a crime in their early 20's, but have been clean for 20+ years and have a family.
OR they simply lost their asylum or refugee case. It typically takes years (like 10 after all appeals are done) and they often have family here.
Most of the stories like "Mother of three deported" are most likely because she had a final deportation order from years ago, but just ignored it. We weren't heavily enforcing final deportation orders for literally decades.
3. The third group are illegals who came in during the last two years. These people are the ones who are being quickly shipped out using what's called "expedited removal." Anyone that is illegal, came within the last two years and doesn't have any protected status can be quickly detained and deported without seeing an immigration judge.
That's the law and has been for decades. Clinton. George Bush, Obama, Biden and Trump all use expedited removals.
That's the reason Obama is called the "deporter in chief" - his main weapon was expedited removal.
That's why the mainstream media is full of shit on this issue. Obama did the same exact shit and used detention centers at a FAR HIGHER pace and no one was rioting or complaining 24/7. It's just now the media is doing constant attacks on Trump on this issue and basically ignored it during Obama's term.
