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Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread



“National” guard, Gavin. Your command of them is a privilege but there are no co-equal commanders in chief

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Actually you might be right. It looked more like an airport to me, but I found something similar.
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I was a little surprised to see the barbed wire at first, but they need to keep people out of the facility. I mean, who hasn't thought about breaking into a ballpark and raising hell on the field?
 


“National” guard, Gavin. Your command of them is a privilege but there are no co-equal commanders in chief

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One of those where appointed by Biden deep state I tell you deep state. lol

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These people you call felons aren’t being charged with that though. The bottom line is this:
  1. If we wish to pursue criminal charges, then the immigrant in question should be charged here, tried in US courts, and any jail/prison sentence would be served in US jails and prisons.
  2. If we decide to go the civil route and just deport them, then the immigrant should be free to go in whatever country we deport them to.
These people have not been charged or convicted of crimes in either the US or El Salvador—for what reason are they in prison? By what mechanism do we have the right to have them imprisoned in some foreign gulag? It’s not like we’re extraditing them to face specific charges. Our government is disappearing people off the street and throwing them into prisons from which there seems to be no way out. That’s some monstrous shit to support.
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It’s not ok to throw people in prison without charges. Period. Especially a prison they have no reasonable way to leave eventually.

But again, there are people imprisoned who didn’t come here or stay here illegally.

Leonel Eschavez didn’t come here or stay here illegally. He used the CBPOne app, made an appoint ment at a port of entry, was processed in by our government, filled out the proper paperwork to seek asylum, got a legal work permit and was gainfully employed, and he was showing up for his court dates for his asylum claim. He didn’t do anything illegal.

Where is he now?

In prison in El Salvador without ever being charged with a crime by either our government or theirs, along with all of these other people who have committed no crime.


Your link is trying to say all should not be deported. I would like to see if they revolve his green card and was he already on a deport list when he was pick up. If so why.
 
Your link is trying to say all should not be deported. I would like to see if they revolve his green card and was he already on a deport list when he was pick up. If so why.
He couldn’t get a green card yet. Asylum seekers can only apply for a green card once they’ve been granted asylum, he was still going through the court process for his asylum claim.

He wasn’t on a deportation list. He was staying with his cousin, and his cousin was undocumented. ICE showed up at the house looking for the cousin, and Eschavez answered the door. ICE sorted out very quickly that Eschavez wasn’t the guy they were looking for, but they noticed his tattoo on his arm and asked about it. The tattoo is in memory of Eschavez’s deceased sister, and is a tattoo of tree branches and his sister’s name. ICE said they wanted to take him in to ask some questions about the tattoo and that they’d bring him back home right after.
—He never came home, they sent him to prison in El Salvador.



They’re doing this shit all the time, man. Look at Chicago recently. There are immigrants in an anti-detention program called ISAP (Intensive Supervision Appearance Program). They have to follow a bunch of rules and have regular immigration check ins to avoid being detained. ICE sent a bullshit text message to a bunch of them to show up for a check-in, saying it would be a violation of the program if they didn’t show. When the people showed up, it was a trap and they were arrested and detained.
 
He couldn’t get a green card yet. Asylum seekers can only apply for a green card once they’ve been granted asylum, he was still going through the court process for his asylum claim.

He wasn’t on a deportation list. He was staying with his cousin, and his cousin was undocumented. ICE showed up at the house looking for the cousin, and Eschavez answered the door. ICE sorted out very quickly that Eschavez wasn’t the guy they were looking for, but they noticed his tattoo on his arm and asked about it. The tattoo is in memory of Eschavez’s deceased sister, and is a tattoo of tree branches and his sister’s name. ICE said they wanted to take him in to ask some questions about the tattoo and that they’d bring him back home right after.
—He never came home, they sent him to prison in El Salvador.



They’re doing this shit all the time, man. Look at Chicago recently. There are immigrants in an anti-detention program called ISAP (Intensive Supervision Appearance Program). They have to follow a bunch of rules and have regular immigration check ins to avoid being detained. ICE sent a bullshit text message to a bunch of them to show up for a check-in, saying it would be a violation of the program if they didn’t show. When the people showed up, it was a trap and they were arrested and detained.

Most asylum is bullshit and if they came through Mexico they should have applied there. If they ate here on some program during Biden then they can be kicked out now under Trump.

Im fine with them challenging the reason in court which is being done and in the end it looks like the Supreme Court will decide and si far they have sided with Trump. If they don't then Trump will have to follow the decision and find a different way it get illegals out.
 
Most asylum is bullshit and if they came through Mexico they should have applied there. If they ate here on some program during Biden then they can be kicked out now under Trump.

Im fine with them challenging the reason in court which is being done and in the end it looks like the Supreme Court will decide and si far they have sided with Trump. If they don't then Trump will have to follow the decision and find a different way it get illegals out.
It’s up to a court to decide if he gets asylum, and he’s been going through that process and showing up for court dates.

Bottom line is this: he did not break a single law (as far as I am aware, anyway), yet he is in prison with no way out. You may not want him here, but he wasn’t an “illegal.” He didn’t do anything illegal.
 
It’s up to a court to decide if he gets asylum, and he’s been going through that process and showing up for court dates.

Bottom line is this: he did not break a single law (as far as I am aware, anyway), yet he is in prison with no way out. You may not want him here, but he wasn’t an “illegal.” He didn’t do anything illegal.

If the program was a Biden program then Trump has the right to stop it the same way Biden stoped it.

If courts finds what happened to him was not legal then it will be up to the US to get him released.
 
It’s up to a court to decide if he gets asylum, and he’s been going through that process and showing up for court dates.

Bottom line is this: he did not break a single law (as far as I am aware, anyway), yet he is in prison with no way out. You may not want him here, but he wasn’t an “illegal.” He didn’t do anything illegal.
Going through the courts the right way and this lawless administration kicks him in the nuts. This is going to go down as a very shameful period in our history.
 
If the program was a Biden program then Trump has the right to stop it the same way Biden stoped it.

If courts finds what happened to him was not legal then it will be up to the US to get him released.
Your viewpoint is really problematic. Again, the biggest issue isn’t even that he’s been deported, it’s that he’s been imprisoned. We don’t just randomly imprison people in foreign countries and then try and get them back if a judge say it was wrong. Eschavez was already in a court process. There was never any order for his removal, and there’s no reason he should be in a prison somewhere.

I see I’m not going to change your mind so I’ll move on.
I’ll just say that never in my wildest dreams did I think so many of my fellow Americans would support imprisoning people in foreign countries for no reason, and with little or no hope of their being released. Really sad.
 
Your viewpoint is really problematic. Again, the biggest issue isn’t even that he’s been deported, it’s that he’s been imprisoned. We don’t just randomly imprison people in foreign countries and then try and get them back if a judge say it was wrong. Eschavez was already in a court process. There was never any order for his removal, and there’s no reason he should be in a prison somewhere.

I see I’m not going to change your mind so I’ll move on.
I’ll just say that never in my wildest dreams did I think so many of my fellow Americans would support imprisoning people in foreign countries for no reason, and with little or no hope of their being released. Really sad.

If he is truly not a criminal or gang member then no he should not have been sent to prison. However if that's so the court should find that.

They freefed that guy that is now charged with human trafficking and other charges. We will see how that works out.
 
If he is truly not a criminal or gang member then no he should not have been sent to prison. However if that's so the court should find that.

They freefed that guy that is now charged with human trafficking and other charges. We will see how that works out.
Nobody should be given what is essentially a prison sentence (and an endless one at that) without being found guilty of anything, and let alone without a trial. This is exactly the kind of qualified goal post moving that is taking big ass bites out of our constitution. You guys have to make it about _who_ is having their rights violated, rather than the rights themselves. Only that flips around hard when the person in question has a compatible virtue signal going on.
 
If he is truly not a criminal or gang member then no he should not have been sent to prison. However if that's so the court should find that.

They freefed that guy that is now charged with human trafficking and other charges. We will see how that works out.
This is a complete perversion of due process. The court finding should be required to put someone in jail, not to get them out of jail.
 
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