Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

Aurelian said:
Ok toss away roughly 5 million votes. See how many elections the left wins.
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That's a good strategy to win more overall elections. But remember that we have the ability to think far in advance and see the eventual trends which will emerge. For example, since the 90s everyone has known the issues Trump won on would eventually come to a head. A party could have taken on the role of a vanguard, highlighting all those issues knowing it would make them lose in 2004, 2008, 2012, but delivering likely victories in 2016, 2020, and 2024. In this case the party would make up their losses and have the benefit of having power in the more consequential years when the public had a will for political change.
 
Fanu said:
Trump ain't restoring shit - sending in the army won't make everyone suddenly peaceful and forget why they started protesting in the first place.
It's just sweeping under the rug deep social divide, its just a matter of time before it erupts again in some other place (or in the same place).
US isn't united as a nation. Tribalism is eating you from the inside, and both the democrats and republicans are only adding oil to the fire instead of trying to find solutions by working together.
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This is all true.
So you have two choices.
1. Do nothing and let the people burn p
buildings, destroy things, and attack cops, destroying the area and property value.
2. Bring in the National Guard, start deporting these terrorists.

It very well might not help this divide, but doing nothing doesn't help either.
 
b34stmode said:
Trump hasn't done a thing to "restore" anything in California. That has been strictly the LAPD. The national guard protected a federal building, that is it.

and the narrative that Newsom is WANTING to bring in criminals is tired and played out. There is WAY MORE decent people who came here legally and then ended up on expired visas, overstayed, ran from poverty and war stricten lands and ended up here







Refreshing to see Rogan has the same views I do
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I agree a lot with Rogan also.

But we have two different arguments.

1. Should illegals be deported? Different argument.

2. We have riots in LA, there is a threat to civilians and federal buildings. Should the militarily be brought in to protect civilians, federal buildings, and restore law and order. The answer Is yes, of course.
 

US Marines make first detention in LA as more protests expected​

By Omar Younis, Brad Brooks, Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali

  • Marines detain man for nearly two hours, hand him over to DHS
  • Some 1,8000 anti-Trump demonstrations planned for Saturday
  • LA County sheriff says fewer than 1% of demonstrators causing harm
LOS ANGELES, June 13 (Reuters) - U.S. Marines deployed to Los Angeles made their first detention of a civilian on Friday, part of a rare use of military force to support domestic police and coming ahead of national protests over President Donald Trump's military parade in Washington.

The detention of the man, a U.S. Army veteran and an immigrant who obtained U.S. citizenship, punctuated a series of highly unusual events that have appealed to Trump supporters but outraged other Americans who are demonstrating discontent in the streets.

Trump has thrived politically on unconventional tactics.
But Democratic opponents are starting to push back. Fifteen protests are expected in Los Angeles alone, Mayor Karen Bass said, urging people to remain peaceful.

"We are here today because the raids have caused fear and panic," Bass said, joined by two dozen elected officials to oppose the raids and military presence. "Can the federal government come in and seize power from a state and from a local jurisdiction? How much will the American people put up with?"

About 200 Marines were assigned to protect the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles, part of a battalion of 700 Marines sent to support the National Guard, said Army Major General Scott Sherman, who is in command of both the National Guard and Marine forces.

The Marines and National Guard deployed in Los Angeles are assigned to protect federal property and personnel and may temporarily detain people, but they are required to turn them over to civilian law enforcement for any formal arrest.

ARMY VETERAN DETAINED​

Reuters witnessed Marines detain one person at the Wilshire Federal Building. Reuters images showed Marines restraining his hands with zip ties and then handing him over to civilians from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) nearly two hours later.

U.S. military confirmed the detention after being presented with Reuters images, in the first known detention by active duty troops.
The detained man, Marcos Leao, 27, an immigrant and a U.S. Army veteran, said after he was released that he was told to get on the ground upon venturing into a restricted area, as he crossed a line of yellow tape to avoid walking around the building.

Leao, who said he is Portuguese and Angolan and became a U.S. citizen through the military, said he complied with all commands and that the Marines apparently mistook him for a protester when he simply had business with the Veterans Administration office inside the building.

"They treated me very fairly," Leao said, adding that he was told, "Understand, this is a whole stressful situation for everybody, and we all have a job."

Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances," and that the detention would end when the person is transferred to civilian law enforcement.

DHS referred press queries to the Northern Command.
Meanwhile, Los Angeles demonstrations continued for an eighth straight day, after they were sparked last Friday by a series of immigrations raids.
The demonstrations have been concentrated in the downtown area, and fewer than 1% of those present have caused problems, Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said.

Some people have been charged with assaulting a police officer, looting, or damaging property.

There was a "big difference" between legitimate protesters and "people who are coming out to cause problems," Luna said at a press conference in which law enforcement officers said they welcomed peaceful protests on Saturday but warned they would arrest those who harm others or damage property.
Bass implemented a curfew over one square mile (2.5 square km) of the downtown area, which officials said has been useful for maintaining order.
Bass said there was "no termination date" for the curfew.

"We are hoping that if the cause of the turmoil ends, which is stopping the raids, then I can almost guarantee you the curfew will go away in short order," Bass said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...los-angeles-more-protests-planned-2025-06-13/
 
The left kills the CEO of United Healthcare.

Kills two Israeli ambassadors staffers.

Attempts to assassinate the President twice.

Doxxes and attempts to murder federal ICE agents and Police - all week

And now kills a Minnesota State Representative and her husband, while also injuring a State Senator and his wife.

This has become the party of terrorism.
 
LeonardoBjj said:

US Marines make first detention in LA as more protests expected​

By Omar Younis, Brad Brooks, Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali

  • Marines detain man for nearly two hours, hand him over to DHS
  • Some 1,8000 anti-Trump demonstrations planned for Saturday
  • LA County sheriff says fewer than 1% of demonstrators causing harm
LOS ANGELES, June 13 (Reuters) - U.S. Marines deployed to Los Angeles made their first detention of a civilian on Friday, part of a rare use of military force to support domestic police and coming ahead of national protests over President Donald Trump's military parade in Washington.

The detention of the man, a U.S. Army veteran and an immigrant who obtained U.S. citizenship, punctuated a series of highly unusual events that have appealed to Trump supporters but outraged other Americans who are demonstrating discontent in the streets.

Trump has thrived politically on unconventional tactics.
But Democratic opponents are starting to push back. Fifteen protests are expected in Los Angeles alone, Mayor Karen Bass said, urging people to remain peaceful.

"We are here today because the raids have caused fear and panic," Bass said, joined by two dozen elected officials to oppose the raids and military presence. "Can the federal government come in and seize power from a state and from a local jurisdiction? How much will the American people put up with?"

About 200 Marines were assigned to protect the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles, part of a battalion of 700 Marines sent to support the National Guard, said Army Major General Scott Sherman, who is in command of both the National Guard and Marine forces.

The Marines and National Guard deployed in Los Angeles are assigned to protect federal property and personnel and may temporarily detain people, but they are required to turn them over to civilian law enforcement for any formal arrest.

ARMY VETERAN DETAINED​

Reuters witnessed Marines detain one person at the Wilshire Federal Building. Reuters images showed Marines restraining his hands with zip ties and then handing him over to civilians from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) nearly two hours later.

U.S. military confirmed the detention after being presented with Reuters images, in the first known detention by active duty troops.
The detained man, Marcos Leao, 27, an immigrant and a U.S. Army veteran, said after he was released that he was told to get on the ground upon venturing into a restricted area, as he crossed a line of yellow tape to avoid walking around the building.

Leao, who said he is Portuguese and Angolan and became a U.S. citizen through the military, said he complied with all commands and that the Marines apparently mistook him for a protester when he simply had business with the Veterans Administration office inside the building.

"They treated me very fairly," Leao said, adding that he was told, "Understand, this is a whole stressful situation for everybody, and we all have a job."

Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances," and that the detention would end when the person is transferred to civilian law enforcement.

DHS referred press queries to the Northern Command.
Meanwhile, Los Angeles demonstrations continued for an eighth straight day, after they were sparked last Friday by a series of immigrations raids.
The demonstrations have been concentrated in the downtown area, and fewer than 1% of those present have caused problems, Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said.

Some people have been charged with assaulting a police officer, looting, or damaging property.

There was a "big difference" between legitimate protesters and "people who are coming out to cause problems," Luna said at a press conference in which law enforcement officers said they welcomed peaceful protests on Saturday but warned they would arrest those who harm others or damage property.
Bass implemented a curfew over one square mile (2.5 square km) of the downtown area, which officials said has been useful for maintaining order.
Bass said there was "no termination date" for the curfew.

"We are hoping that if the cause of the turmoil ends, which is stopping the raids, then I can almost guarantee you the curfew will go away in short order," Bass said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...los-angeles-more-protests-planned-2025-06-13/
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Bwagster said:
Yup, and it’s sad.
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Our State economy dwarfs every other in the US. It's so disproportionate that you just have lie out of hand to save face.

It is pretty funny watching the right-wingers here, guys that can barely string a sentence together, pretend to be captains of industry while simultaneously hiding what they do for a living.
 
oldshadow said:
The left complaining that the raids are scaring illegals. Well damn that a good thing if it scares them maybe they will packup and go home on their on.
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The actual leftist complaint is that 1) you twats 100% lied about going after the worst of the worst, and are so incompetent and desperate for numbers that you're literally pulling up on day laborer outside of Home Depot; and 2) you're violating the Constitution by calling this a rebellion.

I know both of those arguments are much harder to take on, so I understand your need to strawman and just pray.
 
Darkballs said:
The actual leftist complaint is that 1) you twats 100% lied about going after the worst of the worst, and are so incompetent and desperate for numbers that you're literally pulling up on day laborer outside of Home Depot; and 2) you're violating the Constitution by calling this a rebellion.

I know both of those arguments are much harder to take on, so I understand your need to strawman and just pray.
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They said starting with the worst of the worst. Any illegal can and should go. I have said that from the start. If you are here ileagly you should know if you are caught you are going to go.
 
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