Elections I went to see Bernie Sanders speak last night.

[nhbbear]

Found it and time stamped if you're interested.

Not it.

 

[nonoob]

Wasn't his 2016 proposed tax rate a crazy 10% kept with free transportation & housing ?

 

[chardog]

still going after the billionaire bad tropes..... what should matter is that wealth disparity in america can be at appalling levels, and only some billionaires are contributing to it...... probably more millionaires in congress contributing to it than anything else....

 

[MarloStanfield]

Let me start of by saying that I have never been a fan of Bernie’s and I have never been to a political rally or event. Actually, that’s not true, I had to work with capital police many years ago when mitt romney was running for potus and John Bohner came to speak at my city. I was the highest ranking sergeant on duty, so it fell in my lap. And long story short, I gorged myself on the free food they gave us for the $1000 plate event. I ate multiple filet mignons and lobster risotto to the point where I was uncomfortable. Later on, I was alone in the hallway and I farted and it smelled so bad and then John Bohner appeared and was coming to the back hallway to smoke a cigarette. He wanted to talk to me and we spoke for a moment, me knowing the whole time he was in a fart cloud. At one point, I think he noticed and then abruptly ended the conversation. So I farted on the number three man in the country lol.

My wife really wanted to go see Bernie speak, as she is a liberal while I am not. None of her friends could go and she was disappointed, so I told her I would go. She was in complete disbelief that I would go to something she knows I wouldn’t want to just for her.

My thoughts on the matter were that Bernie hates billionaires and so do I. They shouldn’t exist.

As for the actual rally, the first speaker talked about the flooding in this area and how 12 people died in the flooding and it took trump 38 days to ok fema funds and 55 days total before any actual aid came through-at a trickle. The flooding was in June, yet other areas go flooded after us and they got their funding and fema aid much quicker. This state voted for trump overwhelmingly and always has. So it was a shock that he turned his back on us when we needed help.

As for Bernie, he went off on the 1% hoarding 90% of the wealth and I agree with him on this aspect. They hold more wealth than the bottom 52% of the entire population. He really hates musk, who he said has 400 billion dollars and talked about how the big beautiful bill gave tax breaks to billionaires and large corporations, again, I agree with him there.
In short, we both hate oligarchs, which was the whole premise of his show.

He talked about how expensive healthcare is and how it is unaffordable for most people. I agree with him there. He said that healthcare is a human right, same as education. I have to agree with him there.

He talked about our failing education and how teachers should be making much more money: again, agree.

Then he talked about the BBB and how it will remove 15 million people off of their healthcare, including veterans and I can’t see any good in this bill, I agree this is fucked up.

My only issue is that even though what he says sounds good, I don’t believe he could ever get it done-no one could.

So why do people think Bernie is so radical? I know prior to this, I had only heard he is an extreme socialist, but it didn’t see anything extremely radical in what he was saying.

So, what are your thoughts on Sanders? Do you think he will run again? He was an energetic speaker, so I believe it’s a strong likelihood he runs because he didn’t seem all that elderly or like he could run out of steam. I also believe Elizabeth Warren is gearing up to run and gavin gruesome will definitely run. We will probably see Corey booker throw his hat into the ring. Of all those candidates, if forced to vote for one, I would choose Bernie.

I have pics of him, but I don’t see the usual “attach files” so I can upload my pics from my phone and I sure as hell am not loading my pics onto the internet just to post the link because it is a pain in the ass.

You’re a good man, I’m proud to have you as a sherbro

 

[nhbbear]

You’re a good man, I’m proud to have you as a sherbro

Because I went to Bernie with an open
Mind or because I farted on John Boehner?

 

[I Am Legion]

He hates billionaires but him and the progressive squad are ok with tens of millions lol.

 

[IanEdwards]

He hates billionaires but him and the progressive squad are ok with tens of millions lol.

It may be worth pointing out here*, a billionaire has enough money to exert vast influence on society, including but not restricted to, lobbying and influencing government policy, influencing lawmaking, and affecting the entire local economies of areas in which they choose (or indeed don't choose) to locate their endeavours. For example ask residents in the vicinity of Elon Musk's gigafactory how they feel about the occasional power outages they have as a result of it overloading the grid, or the massive spike in air pollution giving rise to a similarly massive spike in asthma cases.

Someone with lets say 10 million, has pretty much fuck-all direct influence on anything.

Billionaires are extremely impactful, in short, mere multimillionaires aren't even in the same galaxy of impactfulness.


* when I say 'it may be worth pointing out here', what I mean is 'It seems I will have to point it out myself if you are too fucking dumb to distinguish between a quantitative and a qualitative difference'

 

[Crazy Source]

He hates billionaires but him and the progressive squad are ok with tens of millions lol.

You guys suck at math.

 

[UberHere]

It may be worth pointing out here*, a billionaire has enough money to exert vast influence on society, including but not restricted to, lobbying and influencing government policy, influencing lawmaking, and affecting the entire local economies of areas in which they choose (or indeed don't choose) to locate their endeavours. For example ask residents in the vicinity of Elon Musk's gigafactory how they feel about the occasional power outages they have as a result of it overloading the grid, or the massive spike in air pollution giving rise to a similarly massive spike in asthma cases.

Someone with lets say 10 million, has pretty much fuck-all direct influence on anything.

Billionaires are extremely impactful, in short, mere multimillionaires aren't even in the same galaxy of impactfulness.


* when I say 'it may be worth pointing out here', what I mean is 'It seems I will have to point it out myself if you are too fucking dumb to distinguish between a quantitative and a qualitative difference'

In other news, money is power in this world…..

 

[nhbbear]

It may be worth pointing out here*, a billionaire has enough money to exert vast influence on society, including but not restricted to, lobbying and influencing government policy, influencing lawmaking, and affecting the entire local economies of areas in which they choose (or indeed don't choose) to locate their endeavours. For example ask residents in the vicinity of Elon Musk's gigafactory how they feel about the occasional power outages they have as a result of it overloading the grid, or the massive spike in air pollution giving rise to a similarly massive spike in asthma cases.

Someone with lets say 10 million, has pretty much fuck-all direct influence on anything.

Billionaires are extremely impactful, in short, mere multimillionaires aren't even in the same galaxy of impactfulness.


* when I say 'it may be worth pointing out here', what I mean is 'It seems I will have to point it out myself if you are too fucking dumb to distinguish between a quantitative and a qualitative difference'

Multi millionaires still exert tremendous influence, especially in smaller ponds. Take one and put them in a city of 50k and they practically run the place. I agree, billionaires can exert influence over a much larger area and when they get their fingers into politics, they can cause ripples across the entire country. Look at that cunt soros and what he did to the various prosecutors across the country with his injection of capital to their campaigns leading to victories and entire cities with progressive criminal justice policies

 

[IanEdwards]

Multi millionaires still exert tremendous influence, especially in smaller ponds. Take one and put them in a city of 50k and they practically run the place.

someone with 5-10 million like Bernie though? nah.

 

[I Am Legion]

You guys suck at math.

Who is "you guys" and you deny Bernie is worth tens of millions?

Bernie-$3 million from Government pay over lifetime, but earns a few million a year from speaking engagements and books. Most say between $15-$25 million.

Bernie Sanders Biography & Facts | The GK Tree

Dive into Bernie Sanders’ life, career, and political influence with key facts and insights on his journey and impact on American politics.

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You don't think it's hypocritical of Bernie and AOC to be flying on private Jets and eating at 5 star places on this "tour"? We can disagree on normal topics, but when things are egregious like this or all the Pols getting rich on insider trading on both sides, we should be able to call a spade a spade.

 

[IanEdwards]

In other news, money is power in this world…..

in other news someone with a thousand times more wealth than a millionaire doesn't exist in the same sphere of influence

 

[lowlife]

I like Bernie and generally agree with what he says. Trumpers in here will call him a "sellout," among other things, but they support trump/maga unconditionally so it's hard to take anything they say seriously.

 

[Crazy Source]

Who is "you guys" and you deny Bernie is worth tens of millions?

Bernie-$3 million from Government pay over lifetime, but earns a few million a year from speaking engagements and books. Most say between $15-$25 million.

Bernie Sanders Biography & Facts | The GK Tree

Dive into Bernie Sanders’ life, career, and political influence with key facts and insights on his journey and impact on American politics.

thegktree.com

You don't think it's hypocritical of Bernie and AOC to be flying on private Jets and eating at 5 star places on this "tour"? We can disagree on normal topics, but when things are egregious like this or all the Pols getting rich on insider trading on both sides, we should be able to call a spade a spade.

The difference between your millionaire with 10-20M and a billionaire is massive. It's a different universe. I live on a road with modest houses and there is a guy 6 houses down that is a millionaire. He's just a normal fella that runs a yogurt shop that does good business. Being a millionaire isn't nearly the benchmark it used to be.

As far as flying on a jet and eating nice food, come on man. That angle is weak af.

 

[UberHere]

in other news someone with a thousand times more wealth than a millionaire doesn't exist in the same sphere of influence

No shit. Why obsess on something you’ll never change though? Not good for your mental health.

 

[chardog]

The difference between your millionaire with 10-20M and a billionaire is massive. It's a different universe. I live on a road with modest houses and there is a guy 6 houses down that is a millionaire. He's just a normal fella that runs a yogurt shop that does good business. Being a millionaire isn't nearly the benchmark it used to be.

As far as flying on a jet and eating nice food, come on man. That angle is weak af.

the difference between 99% of the population and someone with 10M is massive as well, about as impossible of a task to attain

the issue shouldnt be that billionaires exist, but who have they hurt to attain such wealth. The same can be said about politicians, people without talent in making money becoming incredibly wealthy after joining the club. At least with Bezos and his shenanigans he pulls NOW one he's attained such wealth, you can say that he built his system with vision, brains, and unwavering commitment...... that's better than a politician loading up on stocks before handing out grants, even if the profit is less than that of amazon.

 

[Crazy Source]

the difference between 99% of the population and someone with 10M is massive as well, about as impossible of a task to attain

the issue shouldnt be that billionaires exist, but who have they hurt to attain such wealth. The same can be said about politicians, people without talent in making money becoming incredibly wealthy after joining the club. At least with Bezos and his shenanigans he pulls NOW one he's attained such wealth, you can say that he built his system with vision, brains, and unwavering commitment...... that's better than a politician loading up on stocks before handing out grants, even if the profit is less than that of amazon.

Agreed, but I don't consider Bernie one of those politicians "loading up on stocks before handing out grants". Do you?

 

[chardog]

Agreed, but I don't consider Bernie one of those politicians "loading up on stocks before handing out grants". Do you?

I don’t think so, however i don’t post much attention to have an informed post on there guy.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Who is "you guys" and you deny Bernie is worth tens of millions?

Bernie-$3 million from Government pay over lifetime, but earns a few million a year from speaking engagements and books. Most say between $15-$25 million.

Bernie Sanders Biography & Facts | The GK Tree

Dive into Bernie Sanders’ life, career, and political influence with key facts and insights on his journey and impact on American politics.

thegktree.com

You don't think it's hypocritical of Bernie and AOC to be flying on private Jets and eating at 5 star places on this "tour"? We can disagree on normal topics, but when things are egregious like this or all the Pols getting rich on insider trading on both sides, we should be able to call a spade a spade.

as he said, i don't think you understand math. $15 million is literally so little to people like bezos and musk they would lose money by stopping to pick it up if they dropped it.