I thought North Korea was the ****ed up side?

[ultramanhyata]

It was the 80s, almost 30 years ago, its like bitching about 70s Germans because of what they did in the 40s.

So the political party under which these Korean atrocities occurred was defeated in war and has now been outlawed in the country?

 

[Renard]

It's weird. The people actually have sex with each other.

South Korea/Fertility rate
1.30 births per woman (2012)

Fertility rate even lower than Japan, fucking lol

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

It's official: North Korea sets the geo-political bar for all nations relative to what is the good or evil treatment of its citizens.

You're probably also really impressed with the moral performance of Saudi Arabia, another one of the USA's prosperous buddy nations.

I certainly have a realistic view of human nature and realize if the country is large enough, there are enough bad people in it capable of doing bad stuff. Luckily South Korea is a civilized country where these things happen very rarely.

Typical idealistic leftist. Go cry more into your Trix about how unfair the world is.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You're probably also really impressed with the moral performance of Saudi Arabia, another one of the USA's prosperous buddy nations.

Not to mention other nations that the US has "backed": Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, the Philippines, among many, many others. They're all doing really well.

I know a Rex Kwon Do post is basically asking for comedy but that one was special even for those standards.

 

[Rod1]

So the political party under which these Korean atrocities occurred was defeated in war and has now been outlawed in the country?

No, but SK went from a third world country into a first world one.

 

[ultramanhyata]

No, but SK went from a third world country into a first world one.

I was trying to explain why holding SK accountable, today, for their actions in the 1980's is different than trying to hold Germany accountable, today, for their actions in the 1940's.

Economic growth has nothing to do with it.

 

[Orgasmo]

People tend to forget that North Korea wasn't always the retarded child of the two Koreas. Until the late 1970's, it was actually the better developed part of the Korean Peninsula. It was only after the collapse of the Soviet Union that they turned into a total bizzaro state that they are today. South Korea was ran by an authoritarian government until massive protests forced political reforms in the 1980's. The South Korean military-junta did their fair share of human right abuses back when it was in power.

 

[Rod1]

I was trying to explain why holding SK accountable, today, for their actions in the 1980's is different than trying to hold Germany accountable, today, for their actions in the 1940's.

Economic growth has nothing to do with it.

The title uses the word "is" that implies the present.

SKorea used to be a shithole? sure it did, but it moved past it, i thought leftists loved these kinds of stories.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Not to mention other nations that the US has "backed": Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, the Philippines, among many, many others. They're all doing really well.

I know a Rex Kwon Do post is basically asking for comedy but that one was special even for those standards.

Almost as well as Maduro's Venezuela that you never fail to stick up for.

Given Possum Jenkins's love of left-wing dictators and distaste for white people, I'm surprised I haven't seen him shilling for Mugabe yet. Or maybe he has and I just missed it.

 

[ultramanhyata]

The title uses the word "is" that implies the present.

SKorea used to be a shithole? sure it did, but it moved past it, i thought leftists loved these kinds of stories.

I was just showing you the absurdity of your attempted "Germany" moral defense.

 

[Rod1]

I was just showing you the absurdity of your attempted "Germany" moral defense.

Absurdity? its not like the nazis invented racism and antisemitism, last time i checked FDR which libs loved was a massive racist, not even talking to black olympic medallists (which Hitler at least did) and putting the japanese in internment camps. In the 70s America was nowhere near as racist as it was in the 40s.

Skorea used to be a western backed dictatorship and it moved to become a first world democracy, trying to draw a parallel between then and now is a joke.

 

[EmpireShallFall]

The DPRK legalized weed. How bad can they be?

 

[Burning Hammer]

Scary good.

I've stated previously I enjoy your posts, this one I don't understand. We have free will, and exercising it is appropriate. I see things different probably on issues like pornography, from the Christian viewpoint it's seen as lustful. However I don't see many people lust for the individual. I could even argue that one lusts for their wife or significant other since it's sexual desire. It's natural to procreation.

 

[leto1776]

So the political party under which these Korean atrocities occurred was defeated in war and has now been outlawed in the country?

They weren't defeated in war, but the government that was in power in S. Korea in the 80s in no longer in power. They were ousted. So find something at least in the last few years to shit on them for.

 

[leto1776]

People tend to forget that North Korea wasn't always the retarded child of the two Koreas. Until the late 1970's, it was actually the better developed part of the Korean Peninsula. It was only after the collapse of the Soviet Union that they turned into a total bizzaro state that they are today. South Korea was ran by an authoritarian government until massive protests forced political reforms in the 1980's. The South Korean military-junta did their fair share of human right abuses back when it was in power.

South Korea was pretty crappy for a while, but the North never really recovered after the war. The Soviets never really did much for them, because nobody could stand Kim Il Sung.

 

[jemimaman]

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[Brazilian HKD]

How does that compare to China and Brazil? I don't think they're anywhere on that level, but I've heard some horror stories from those two places in regards to hosting the Olympics

Well in Brazil the situation was very strange TBH. It wasn't an official extermination, but a mixture of government complacency, police corruption and kids with access to ilegal guns that allowed for the events that ended in underground extermination groups.

You would be surprised how easily "civilized" people can become part of such violence when their kid is raped by a 12yrs old that won't get ijail time and the police won't be able to touch them due to the crazy laws....unless there is money involved.

The funny thing is that I only remembered the crap I saw around me after my kid was born, maybe my mind was blocking it from realizing how normal these events look like when you are used to them. Scary

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Well in Brazil the situation was very strange TBH. It wasn't an official extermination, but a mixture of government complacency, police corruption and kids with access to ilegal guns that allowed for the events that ended in underground extermination groups.

You would be surprised how easily "civilized" people can become part of such violence when their kid is raped by a 12yrs old that won't get ijail time and the police won't be able to touch them due to the crazy laws....unless there is money involved.

The funny thing is that I only remembered the crap I saw around me after my kid was born, maybe my mind was blocking it from realizing how normal these events look like when you are used to them. Scary

Can you elaborate more on this please?

 

[indo80]

North Korea is worse because when things like this happen in the South it's called a scandal, but when it happens in the North it's just called Tuesday.

South Korea is still the most impressive success story in the entire 20th century. From backwater to what it is today in a matter of decades. That's the power of America's backing. When you have communists back you, you end up North Korea. LOL.

I agree, India was in bed with the soviet union during the cold war and the result is them being decades behind china. I am not a conservative but communism absolutely doesnt work. Even in India today a communist governed state like West Bengal is far behind a capitalist state like Gujarat. Communism is a failed philosophy. USA backing did help a lot of countries.

 

[Brazilian HKD]

Can you elaborate more on this please?

Sure
I moved to Brazil in the 90's. This is from Sao Paulo's point of view in my neighborhood Luz The amount of street children was insane. Some of them were in groups of 20 kids. Most of them were around just asking for food, or money. Most brazilians being very charitable, helped.

They didn't even had money to buy crack, so they used glue from shoes or nail polishers.
After some time things started escalating. Drug dealers would use the kids to sell drugs (the brazilian law has a Scandinavian esque type of law about minors not being held accountable for their actions). Some predators used street girls as their targets. Crack became easier to get, and with it handguns.

The people working around the area started to get afraid. Some of them were the same people who helped the kids with free food and money times ago. The kids grew and you could no longer see if they were minors or youg adults anymore.

Violence escalated after some years. Kids started robbing, murdering, raping.Police would try to get the kids, but by law they had to release them afterwards. It was on that period that one good friend of mine was murdered. A 14 yrs old kid robbed the store my friend worked in. The kid, having a power trip, decided to surrender my friend and play a game of russian rollette with my friend's head. He lost.

The cops started getting frustrated. Neighbors wanted justice. The government ignored the issue.

After some years things went totally out of control. People were willing to pay the police to exterminate those criminal kids who weren't considered responsible for their actions. They would beat the crap out of the kids, sometimes without any proof, take them to some places, and the kids would dissappear. Everybody knew what happened but was afraid to ask the cops. Between criminals who would target them or criminals who would target other criminals, they preferred the last.

These kids grew, many of them survived. Some of them went to a place we call Cracolandia (crackland) where they live as real life zombies. Others became powerful, extremely violent, and leaders. That's how the drug cartel in Sao Paulo became more powerful than Rio's.