I prefer Berine but Hillary will be better

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  1. kintana

    kintana Purple Belt

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    Though I am libertarian I do like Bernie Sanders stance on wall street, defense spending and making Washington work.

    But it seems that you need a politician not a idealist or revolutionary. That is why Hillary will be better.

    Most likely congress will be majority republican. This means that you need someone that knows how to play the political game. And Hillary can do that plus she is not a centrist not a leftist.

    This was the reason Obama did not get as much done as he could, he couldn't play the political game. The american president is not a ruler but merely a branch that needs the other branches support to create real change. Obama could never get congress to work because it was almost always a republican congress.

    I think Hillary being a Washington insider knows how to play the game better than Bernie.

    I like Bernie but probably most of what he says will not get done because he won't have the political support he needs.

    What do you guys think?
     
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    theBLADE1 The sharpest poster on the Sher

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    I don't know if you know this or not but the Republicans hate Hillary Clinton. The idea that she would be able to get more things by them is an absurd notion. Her campaign isn't about anything. She wants to be the president for her own personal ambitions where as Sanders wants to be the president to actually help people. Nothing about Hillary is better than Bernie.
     
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    theBLADE1 The sharpest poster on the Sher

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    Already have had is politicians. We are in desperate need of a idealist/revolutionary
     
  4. It would be cool if she picked Bernie as a VP. He could then be designated to work on special projects.
     
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    theBLADE1 The sharpest poster on the Sher

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    Will not happen. Bernie is going to win. And he will not pick her as his VP.
     
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    Fawlty Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Hillary has some genuine patriotic qualities and I believe she will generally act according to them. The almost desperate ambition is off-putting though, I admit. Sanders is in it for the best reasons imo.

    Both will face maximum obstruction from Republicans, so we had better put some Dem asses in some seats. I'm not sure who will take the worst heat from legislators, as asking an inbred moron to choose between respecting a woman and respecting a "socialist" is like asking them to choose between beer and guns.
     
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    Berine is the dark horse imo
     
  8. Wait you know he is going to win? Interesting....

    Who would you like as Bernies VP?

    The guy you are talking to hates Hillary and has bought radical GOP propaganda as true. You'll notice since he believes that she has no good qualities and only cares about herself.
     
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    Fawlty Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Is he? I haven't figured out where everybody stands around here. Bernie fans should obviously shift to Hillary if she gets the nom regardless, so there's no point in going out of their way to trash her.
     
  10. Rex Kwon Do

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    Yeah, idealists/revolutionaries in charge of powerful countries have proven to be great leaders.

    Lol.
     
  11. Anung Un Rama

    Anung Un Rama The Right Hand of Doom Platinum Member

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    I honestly believe Sanders has a better chance of working toward positive outcomes with the GOP than Hillary.
     
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    I'm thinking there's so much bad blood vs Hillary, and that Sanders is more than capable of proposing laws that stand a chance. It's plausible that he will work with Republicans better than her. I'm not confident either way on that.
     
  13. HA! A lot will surely but there are some radicals on here filled with hate who believe that 99% of elected officials in America are plotting against Sanders. @theBLADE1 is one of them.

    I am pretty sure Sanders would disagree with you there. But hey you are in your own world buddy.
     
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    I rebel against the notion that Hillary is a shue in and it's only a matter of time until she crushes Sanders like you make it out to seem

    I would like Elizabeth Warren but i'm sure whoever he chooses to be fit for the job.


    This guy has posted a countless number of different evidence to prove that Hillary pals around with Wall Street and only ever does thing for her personal game and has numerous times been on the wrong side of history. She does not show any of the judgment that I want in a leader. And you say I'm the one who buys the GOP lies. I don't buy into propaganda.
     
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    Hillary is a total bitch and has always been more liberal than Bill (bad thing imo) but it's pretty obvious that she will not raise taxes as high as Bernie and will probably work with the Republicans more as well.
     
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    Anung Un Rama The Right Hand of Doom Platinum Member

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    It's definitely an uphill battle either way, but not only do I think Sanders would be better positioned to work with the GOP on day 1, I think he's less likely to disenchant young voter and therefore more likely to oversee democrats taking back the house. Assuming he won't be obstructed by democrats as well as the GOP this could mean a realization of his goals.
     
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    I just can't like anything about her. I know too much about her I feel. But yes no matter who gets the Democratic nomination there will face absurd levels of obstruction. I just think Sanders actually has the intentions of helping people whereas Hillary is only doing this to fulfill her own egotistical ambitions. It has nothing to do with the GOP like soa(who does nothing but lie and make up absurd shit) says.
     
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    You have turned into a troll on the highest levels LOL. Why would Sanders disagree? He would get more things done because the Republicans haven't been trying to destroy him for over 20 years like Clinton. There is no way Hillary has a better chance at getting things done than Sanders does.

    You and evidence don't really go together it seems.
     
  19. I say it because Sanders does not have many centrist positions and the GOP already considers Hillary 'too far left'. See 2008 and the attacks against Hillary. Not to mention Sanders own party (The Democrats) aren't really embracing him and this is best evidenced by the lack of endorsements from Democrat Governors, Senators, Congressmen, and other party officials. Not to mention his lack of endorsements by the "superdelegates". It really says a lot when you are this crazed and you can't even realize that the party Sanders is running for has failed to endorse him to the level that Hillary has And you expect him to get "more done" when his own party doesn't even largely support him?

    By the way Hilary won the Popular vote in the 2008 Democratic primary but Superdelegates helped Obama win so you should feel some sympathy for Hillary and realize the system isn't 'rigged'.
     
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    Not a centrist, not a leftist? What is she, a conservative democrat or did u mistype?

    She will be like obama when it comes to dealing with Republicans; they will agree in private on issues lobbyists push for thr most. Like amnesty.

    Otherwise, like Obama, she'll just blame them for her lack of success. She's blamed them a lot already for benghazi and monica lewinsky and her emails. Why would she stsrt to work with them?
     

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