I do not see the big deal!

Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment Discussion' started by Sherdog, Dec 16, 2005.

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  1. Sherdog

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    This is not a sponsorship thing. This is my rule. Simple!


    Me being in the mma website business if i came on here and said mma weekly sucks. That would look very childish and cheesy. Any legit reviews are not questioned. This topic is getting very old. I hate to say it if you do not like it either let it go or leave. No company has EVER came to me and said i do not want people posting things about us. That is crazy to even think that.
    See my thinking was if someone was going to sponsor us as a site I thought they should get a few benefits. Plain and simple! No matter who they are. Why else would someone want to sponsor a forum? To just give us money? Think about it.
    If Chris feels his pop shot was correct fine. Get a kid to buy a pair of other shorts and a pair of yours and train for however long in them and write a review. Do not go about the way you are. If you feel this is bull crap I'm sorry but a business man would understand.

    The little comment "can I say that" well I think you are smart enough to answer that before you even ask it. The rules are simple follow them.
     
  2. Madmick

    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Okay, I think everything you said it reasonable (and I think you have a right to make money).

    Can the forum-goers post a comparison of fight shorts? I was thinking of doing that sometime soon, but I wanted more time in my NoGi's. I've been sick.
     
  3. Sherdog

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    I do not ever recall a LEGIT review being messed with at all. That is what this forum is for. have you ever been to the mma forum or off topic and see how many people say sherdog sucks? I do not care. From our numbers I would beg to differ.
     
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    Sherdog, I would just like to say that I understand your position. You need to create an advertising market, and the only way to do that is for their to be actual perks to advertising. I think some people are a little overzealous, but it is because of all the time put in and the respect shown by all these smaller companies. I for one appreciate this resource, and will continue to use it for as long as I can. If selling ads is what it takes, then that's what should be done. God Bless and keep up the good work.
     
  5. Fozzy1

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    The issue was not about a review being questioned, merely one statement which was out of line. So I dealt with the statement. We are not about to go deleting genuine reviews which compare products, don't be silly. That would be a complete oxymoron to the whole point of the gear and equipment "DISCUSSION" forum.

    Also, personally, I find it offensive when I try and deal with issues privately, and said user goes and brings stuff public just to create more tension.

    I'd also like to point something out, the rules were implemented because there needed to be a change. Alot of you remember my campaign to become mod. I simply asked to be given some authority on the forum, because at the time it was purely becoming a place for companies to come, plug their new products and then leave.

    Finally, some regulations were put in place, and now people are getting bent out of shape because of it. If you don't understand something, come to the people in charge and ask us. Also, these are OUR policies, not SPRAWL's. So if you have an issue, it is with us, the administration.

    ~Foz
     
  6. Madmick

    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Okay, sorry, I was just a little confused, because I didn't know what went down (I missed the thread before it was deleted), and I couldn't find the rules in the stickies. I remembered them being stated when the change first occurred, but I couldn't remember what they were and I couldn't find them; I read all three of Jeff's posts in the new sponsor sticky, and I didn't see them there.

    I'm afraid I've got a "duh" moment coming my way, but where are the rules formally stated?

    Thanks, guys.
     
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    People are morons. Run YOUR website the way YOU see fit. None of these assholes understand the cost or time it takes to run a VBulletin forum this big.
     
  8. Fozzy1

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    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=311041

    ~Foz
     
  9. Sinister

    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Foz KO1 users who want structure and then cry when they get it.

    lol
     
  10. Fozzy1

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    Exactly. It's structure. All of a sudden all these people who got a free avenue to advertise their products and could pretty much talk however we wanted (at one time, i remember someone racially slurred me, saying "go box some kangaroos" or something) but point being there was no order. Now that there is regulations and policies, it shouldn't be fought, if something is against policy, I take care of it. It shouldn't start big anti-foz, anti-sherdog crusades.

    ~Foz
     
  11. SSF

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    I think we will all be able to work within the guild lines. I haven't seen to much of a cramp in sales due to the changes so far.


    By the way, Jeff's been kind enough to work with me in the Platinum members area. You guys that don't have Platinum membership should join.

    www.SSFgear.com
     
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    Most of the regulations i think are fair and just, Sprawl sponsors and def deserves the privileges, they are bringing us a great product at a good price. As well as they are in touch with the consumer and talking with us directly
    If people want to post adds they should pay just like any other advertising medium would.

    I dont see a problem with it except.
    I think other companies should be able to promote sales or group buys. It results in better prices for consumers which is what sherdog was built on. Every single member of this site is a consumer at one time or another. We deserve and want better prices when they are available. If we charge for those opportunity's then it results in higher costs removing the whole purpose of the sale in the first place.

    Mod
     
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    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Again though, that becomes a matter of that one Company is paying for the right to do this and another is not. But if you pay attention to Jeff's post up there, he's saying you can post reviews of a Product or something of that sort that's just free information, just not something that is a blatant and direct advertisement. But if you post about a Product review and people are alerted to your Product quality, they'll go to your site, SEE you're having a sale, and you get the SAME results without having to directly violate the rule structure here.

    Like Ron says, if you go about it the correct way which is in compliance with what we're asking, your sales won't take too much of a crap. And Ron will also tell you that if you're willing to ask Jeff or any Mod who can help as to wanting to do something specific for a specific purpose, Sherdog staff has been more than willing to be lenient if it doesn't negate the entire purpose of someone being a Forum Sponsor.

    Plus there's also the factor that at some point Sprawl's sponsorship will end. At that point any waiting Company with the capability will have a chance to have the exact same benefits and everyone gets their turn reign supreme. lol
     
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    I don't know what originally started this, but some of these companies need to quit whining. You know the rules. Abide by them.
     
  15. Madmick

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    Foz, that was the thread with Jeff's 3 posts to which I was referring; I see where Sherdog says, "To everyone on the gear forum and other forums. The recent rules here are no different then any other forum on sherdog.net."

    I don't know what the rules are on the other forums (besides posting protocol like no porn, no profanity in thread titles, that sort of thing...I don't know what the rules of advertising are). So I guess I should have asked where those are posted.
     
  16. #1 when you are a title sponsor then you should get BIGGER and MORE banners. You should NOT be allowd to stop other company's from posting or talking about their stuff. That would pretty much make it a SPRAWL forum and not a gear and equipment forum. If someone and I don't care who couldn't handle my comment and see the smart ass in it when I asked "Can I say that here" then we have really come to a low. I asked "Can I say that here" out of sarcasim NEVER thinkingit was actually going to get deleted over. As I said before I tried to sponsor this forum and a mix up within the STAFF of Sherdog screwed it up so when the forum mod's tell me I didn't step up please find out the facts. I was ready with my credit card in hand. NOW, "IF" we did get the spot I definatly would never EVER censor what everyone talks about here. All I want for my MORE MONEY is a bigger banner. I had 4 posts deleted yesterday before anyone had a chance to read them and I think that is crap.

    Sprawl is a good company with great service (so I have heard) and they should not fear a company that has been here 1/2 as long. Now if it is not Sprawl but it is Shergod's rules then Shergod should not fear Sprawl losing business becuase of a wise crack or our shorts being compared to theirs. We will take the Pepsi challenge with ANYONES shorts any day of the week. I will actually buy both pairs for whoever is comparing them.

    Anyway I am not sorry for making a smart ass comment that had no factual eveneice behind it. It was pure sarcasim and everyone on this forum or sponsoring this forum needs to take a deep breath and realize there are other company's selling MMA clothes and there will be competition, and you can not lay the rug over others so that they can't speak.

    If anyone would like to talk to me email me at [email protected] so we don't have any other problems...

    PS. Sorry if my spelling is bad I am not going back to proof.

    CHRIS BRENNAN
    www.nogi.com
     
  17. Fozzy1

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    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219356

    more detailed G&E rules and regu;ations on the way. being updated as we speak... errr type.

    ~Foz
     
  18. Madmick

    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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  19. PS. If someone ELSE had both shorts and would have said "I feel my Nogi's would last longer than 4 pair of Sprawls" would it have gotten deleted or just writen off as opinion?
     
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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Does the fact I already own pairs of both exclude me from this offer? Cause I'm still a little hurt over the newbs grabbing the free sprawls.
     
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