I disagree with #alllivesmatter

[VivaRevolution]

It's a cute response to BLM, but let's be honest here; do all lives really matter? Though it's not determined by race, I think we can agree that some lives matter more than others. If there was a choice between saving Jonas Salk and saving Osama Bin Laden, is anybody here really going to hold up their hands confused and think "All lives do matter, so I don't know whose life is more valuable"?

The response shouldn't be #alllivesmatter, it should be #somemorethanothers.

I think this is why I really like New Testament Christians, because I do think a true believer would struggle to answer you.

I think Bernie Sanders without a camera watching would struggle to answer the question.

I think both New Testament Christians and someone like Bernie are better people then myself, and the fact that most people would agree with you, and would approach valuing life in a pragmatic manor, shows a decline in culture and values.

 

[RighteousWar]

If you think "all lives matter" means every individual is equally good, then it went completely over your head. No one is saying Pol Pot's and Einstein's lives were equally valuable, only that Asian and Jewish lives (in this example), based solely on their race/ethnicity/uncontrollables, are equal. Just like the Founding Fathers didn't mean we're all literally physically or mentally created equal; we're simply equal in the eyes of the law.

Agreed, but who you suppose he believed "created" us?

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

So this must explain the reasoning behind 1,200 people from France traveling to the Middle East to fight for ISIS. This also explains why more than 15% of Muslim youths from Belgium think suicide bombings are acceptable. This must also explain why over 80% of Egyptians believe the penalty for leaving Islam should be death.

Sorry, but this narrative that most people that commit acts of terror are disenfranchised is nonsense. All of the 9/11 hijackers had college educations and almost all came from middle class backgrounds.

Also, most people killed by Islamic terror are Muslims, so the narrative that terror is a response to Western imperialism is silly.

Again I didn't say all.


But the people who committed such terrorist attacks were moved by the attacks committed by the west. They their people getting destroyed and want to do something about it.


The terrorist attack is their only means of fighting the west....They can't fight any other way since in conventional war, they will get destroyed.

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

Incorrect. Germans getting hacked to death on a train, French cartoonists getting murdered (for drawing a fucking cartoon) and a bunch of revelers on Bastille day in Nice getting run over have nothing to do with actions of the west, and literally everything to do with Islamic ideology.

Put down the Chomsky and pay attention to what the terrorists actually say. I'm not saying no one has been radicalized by the West due to drone strikes and such , but you're vastly overstating how much it contributes.

LMFAO.

Dude it's a chain reaction....It has started because of the injustices in the middle east, because of the west attack/control of the middle east.

The only reason these latest terrorist attack have happen is because of all the fuckery the West did in Iraq/syria...Isis got big and became the Real life Cobra of the world.....They asked people to attack, and guess what they are doing it, all these lone wolfs are following the command.


Chomsky is right, it has everything to with how the west/Israel has treated the middle easterns....and the west have only made the problem worst

 

[Dayman1984]

LMFAO.

Dude it's a chain reaction....It has started because of the injustices in the middle east, because of the west attack/control of the middle east.

The only reason these latest terrorist attack have happen is because of all the fuckery the West did in Iraq/syria...Isis got big and became the Real life Cobra of the world.....They asked people to attack, and guess what they are doing it, all these lone wolfs are following the command.


Chomsky is right, it has everything to with how the west/Israel has treated the middle easterns....and the west has have only made the problem worst

Chomsky should have stuck to linguistics , where he actually knows what he's talking about. We couldn't be farther apart on this issue. No point in continuing.

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

Chomsky should have stuck to linguistics , where he actually knows what he's talking about. We couldn't be farther apart on this issue. No point in continuing.

Yeah terrorist just decided to attack the west just because.....The delusional in you is amazing...Chomsky is a very smart man, you should listen.

 

[Dayman1984]

Yeah terrorist just decided to attack the west just because.....The delusional in you is amazing...Chomsky is a very smart man, you should listen.

I didn't say "just because". And it's not like your points have no validity, it's just that I think they are less impactful than you think. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

I didn't say "just because". And it's not like your points have no validity, it's just that I think they are less impactful than you think. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

You blame islam...you blame the fact that they are Islamist so decided to attack the west. When it's clear they attacked the west because the west started the bullshit.


This has been a chain reaction in response to American/Israel policies. I am not saying you have to disagree with the USA did but please at least know the root on all this has happened.

 

[punky brewster]

#IntelligentProductiveLivesMatter

I don't give two fucks about the color of your skin, and you shouldn't care about the color of mine either. Treat other people with respect, work hard and pay your fucking taxes. It's not a difficult equation.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Again I didn't say all.


But the people who committed such terrorist attacks were moved by the attacks committed by the west. They their people getting destroyed and want to do something about it.


The terrorist attack is their only means of fighting the west....They can't fight any other way since in conventional war, they will get destroyed.

But crusades?

 

[klnOmega]

Black Lives Matter (more) is a hate group so naturally they garner a lot of negative press and these little groups pop up in counter-protest.

Is normal.

All Lives Matter wasn't even meant as a protest. It was just normies who don't spend all day on Tumbler commenting on police shootings, and then #blm people mass internet attacking them for statements like All Lives Matter.

 

[bobgeese]

You blame islam...you blame the fact that they are Islamist so decided to attack the west. When it's clear they attacked the west because the west started the bullshit.


This has been a chain reaction in response to American/Israel policies. I am not saying you have to disagree with the USA did but please at least know the root on all this has happened.

You truly have no idea what you are talking about. Look into the Mahdi and their end of times theology, all of a sudden everything they do makes complete sense.

Before you respond with "blah blah, it's our fault."
Please explain why the terrorists who committed the recent attacks in Bangladesh were 3 well off, well educated individuals.

 

[Leroy Jenkins]

You truly have no idea what you are talking about. Look into the Mahdi and their end of times theology, all of a sudden everything they do makes complete sense.

Before you respond with "blah blah, it's our fault."
Please explain why the terrorists who committed the recent attacks in Bangladesh were 3 well off, well educated individuals.

End of times?



You do know that a big reason for the Israel is because of Christians who want the end of times, right? They will support Israel no matter what, and are secretly hoping for an apocalypse end scenerio./


and trust me these Christians are much more dangerous since they actually influence a country with nuclear weapons and massive war capabilities....All Islamic Terrorist do is influence some people with guns/bombs.



Again why are terrorist so much in the news lately? Isis.....why did Isis gain so much power? Iraq/Syria.....Who is behind all this the United States...Again the United States is the root cause.

If it wasn't for the United States, this would've never happened.


As for Bangladesh is obvious this wave of terrorism is having rippling effects among the Islamic world.....The United States action is basically advertisement for certain muslims to become terrorist.

 

[nostradumbass]

I think this is why I really like New Testament Christians, because I do think a true believer would struggle to answer you.

I think Bernie Sanders without a camera watching would struggle to answer the question.

I think both New Testament Christians and someone like Bernie are better people then myself, and the fact that most people would agree with you, and would approach valuing life in a pragmatic manor, shows a decline in culture and values.

How is pragmatism a decline? People don't live in small tribes anymore, and we know that more than a few people like to victimize unsuspecting strangers, so the hunks of shit are the ones that made it a choice between their lives or innocent lives.

There is a massive difference between saying someone's life doesn't matter because you just don't like them and saying their lives don't matter because they are a danger to the rest of society. THEY made that the choice, not anybody else.

 

[VivaRevolution]

How is pragmatism a decline? People don't live in small tribes anymore, and we know that more than a few people like to victimize unsuspecting strangers, so the hunks of shit are the ones that made it a choice between their lives or innocent lives.

There is a massive difference between saying someone's life doesn't matter because you just don't like them and saying their lives don't matter because they are a danger to the rest of society. THEY made that the choice, not anybody else.

Because a better person would set aside their judgement, and not view things through the lens of what X person deserves, but what assigning arbitrary value on life says about you.

Pragmatism is absent of judgement.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

It's a cute response to BLM, but let's be honest here; do all lives really matter? Though it's not determined by race, I think we can agree that some lives matter more than others. If there was a choice between saving Jonas Salk and saving Osama Bin Laden, is anybody here really going to hold up their hands confused and think "All lives do matter, so I don't know whose life is more valuable"?

The response shouldn't be #alllivesmatter, it should be #somemorethanothers.

I hope the #alllivesmatter people, who are late to the whole police accountability part, are doing more to protect citizens than creating a snarky hashtag. But I doubt it.

 

[deadshot138]

Technically our lives only matter to the people who care about us. If we die, our employers replace us. Insurance providers find other clients. Places you shopped won't miss your dollars. The President won't give a shit. Hell, the governor won't give a shit. Not every life is beautiful. In fact, most aren't. Middle class banality or lower class marginalization. Pretty shitty choices.

We really are nothing in the grand scheme of things.

#NoLivesMatter

 

[Striderx5]

Argued this point using extremists and non extremists. Would you want them to integrate into society? I'm pro segregation of pieces of shit in society. Not all lives matter imo. Lives that matter are the ones trying to make a positive impact in society without hurting people or pushing an agenda.

 

[dontsnitch]

SGA Vice President Rohini Sethi got in a ton of crap for this. Her punishment includes: a 50-day suspension beginning Aug. 1, mandatory attendance of the Libra Project diversity workshop, mandatory attendance of three cultural events per month, a reflection letter and a public presentation in the Senate Meeting on Sep. 28. Just Lol.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

It's a cute response to BLM, but let's be honest here; do all lives really matter? Though it's not determined by race, I think we can agree that some lives matter more than others. If there was a choice between saving Jonas Salk and saving Osama Bin Laden, is anybody here really going to hold up their hands confused and think "All lives do matter, so I don't know whose life is more valuable"?

To me lives don't all matter the same. Not even close and they never will. In terms of laws and justice though they should all be afforded equal protection and consideration through due process.