I’m so sad we never got rumble vs potan

[VinceArch]

Not always. He beat the brakes off prime Phil Davis over 3 rounds, beat Arlovski at HW in 3 rounds (broke his jaw, too, but somehow Andre's chin held up). He also had some UD wins in lower weight classes where he played it safe probably because he knew his weight cut would affect his cardio (David Branch, Dan Hardy).

Not always but AJ shitting the figurative bed was not out of the ordinary.

 

[Natural Order]

Rountree had about the same power as Rumble and a more well-rounded skillset

Lol

 

[mkt]

Go ahead and disagree all you want. This fight will forever be a what if so, it's all moot anyway.

That much we can agree on, just like all hypothetical fights. I'm also not sure if they would've crossed paths anywhere near their respective primes if Rumble hadn't gotten so ill. Rumble was only 2 years older than Poatan, but moved in and out of the UFC several times, with a long break during his prime years.

Poatan was kickboxing when Rumble looked his best at LHW.

 

[Bwagster]

I think Rumble would have taken it. Wrestling was his Achilles heel, but against Alex it would have been a standup fight.

 

[Question]

Weak AF comparison ... Rumble against a tiny, feather-fisted, carrot-topped pretender.

Has fugging NOTHING TO DO with facing a MASSIVE, TACTICAL, 6'4" ASSASSIN like Pereira ... with 10x the legit kickboxing background as Johnson. Nothing. Nada.

RUMBLE would CRUMBLE.

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Bro Rumble destroyed a prime Gus and Glover(one of Pereira's coaches)
We also just saw Pereira drop two rounds to Rountree, who was on paper suppose to be an easy stylistic matchup for Pereira and shouldn't of been anywhere close to a title fight. I mean Roundtree almost(many argue should of) lost a decision to Jacoby not long ago

I think Rumble is an extremely hard fight for Pereira and would mix it up well against him

 

[Deleted member 504083]

He also had some UD wins in lower weight classes where he played it safe probably because he knew his weight cut would affect his cardio (David Branch, Dan Hardy).

Because wrestling requires no cardio....

Why would anyone with wrestling/grappling like Rumble choose to keep the fight standing against a guy like Hardy, where his only way to win is with his striking?

 

[Scheme]

Except that Rumble was an actual wrestler, and Roundtree is a Tiger Muay Thai striker. Rumbles base was wrestling and he was a very good wrestler.

Why did we see Rumble get out-wrestled so many times and Rountree only get out-wrestled like once or twice? You realize that everybody trains wrestling now, right?

 

[mkt]

Because wrestling requires no cardio....

Why would anyone with wrestling/grappling like Rumble choose to keep the fight standing against a guy like Hardy, where his only way to win is with his striking?

I have no idea. Rumble was kicking people's heads off at WW. He would've definitely won standing. He was a bit of a head case at times. But wrestling a smaller striker who's no threat on the ground isn't that cardio-intense. It was one of two ways he could easily beat Hardy.

I mean a 45-year old Mark Coleman beat Bonnar doing that...and Stefan was a huge LHW. In his prior fight, Coleman and Shogun both totally gassed in one of the messiest fights I've seen (their rematch).

 

[Question]

Cormier and Jones both had iron chins and MUCH better wrestling than anyone Poatan has faced. I mean he got taken down by bird leg Izzy. And Rumble would KO the likes of Hill and wildman Jiri at least as fast as Poatan did.

Yup, Rumble beat a future champion in Glover
Not only beat him, he demolished him with ease

I honestly think Rumble would have his way with Jiri and Hill as well

 

[GrantB13]

As if it were ever on the table?

 

[RedDevilFan]

Why did we see Rumble get out-wrestled so many times and Rountree only get out-wrestled like once or twice? You realize that everybody trains wrestling now, right?

Rumbles base was wrestling and it was why he could outwrestle the likes of Davis.

Rumble had gas for 1 round when he was a WW and then would tireout and crumble. It was not until he became a LHW, that he actually did not have his cardio problems. Vitor and Koscheck are two exceptional grapplers that beat him the same way. We also have DC, but he is another excpetional wrestler. Who else outwrestled him ?

Who has Roundtree fought that were as good as those wrestlers. You say all of them wrestle now but they do not really wrestle. You have the BJJ guys who are good on tte ground but are shit getting them there.

 

[Jose Beehive]

Wildly entertaining thread about a very random hypothetical fight that i've never thought about and probably never will again after this post.. Good shit Sherdog.

I just feel like Poatans big weapons would be sooner and more likely to get the advantage earlier than Rumble's would, completely concelaed seamless calf kick's/jab's/straight's, where as Rumble's biggest KO's required shit loads of explosive effort and energy to get or often were kinda more due to some really shoddy strike defence imo, like he had this jerky way of finding his range that was really effective but it's hard for me to imagine Poatan hasn't seen that kinda pressure fighter shit in his Kickboxing days, Rumble also loved that devastating left headkick and gnarly uppercut's, but both these techniques in my head are way harder to pull off clean against a 6 ft 4 striking phenom... Obviously when you have power like these dudes it's, as someone else said basically two tanks, as obvious as it sounds I really do think the details around like game-planning, training camp and mental state/confidence could make the difference in a situation like this, or maybe you get Ngannou vs Lewis timidity.

I'd also like to see Poatan and Yoel Romero have a Flying Knee only contest in a phone-box.

 

[italiamusica]

I think people forget how insane prime Rumble was, he was so fucking scary and powerful. Just like Alex, he was KOing people with punches and head kicks, and he had a better ground game than Periera. It would have been a good fight for sure.

 

[orca]

both have 1 ko power
but again 1 has weak wrestling
the other one has really good wrestling if he wants to implement it

 

[mkt]

Why did we see Rumble get out-wrestled so many times and Rountree only get out-wrestled like once or twice? You realize that everybody trains wrestling now, right?

If this is a serious question (hopefully not), Rumble got subbed by RNC a number of times but only Olympian Cormier outwrestled him. Bader couldn't take him down and he sprawl-n-brawled Phil Davis all night. Rountree hasn't faced any wrestlers close to that level. They don't exist in the UFC right now.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Poatan isn’t a wrestler with a good RnC. Rumble was built different. I used to watch him peel rounds off of Tyron Spong at the Blackzilians back in the day. That was with 16oz gloves in a sparring setting… Rumble with MMA gloves on can finish anyone at anytime. I’m not saying he would beat Poatan but he matches up EXTREMELY well against him and that fight would be the embodiment of violence!

Rumble's weakness was against grinding wrestlers. Prime Rumble was a top LHW. I think he beats Poatan. He can wrestle himself and I think he's too much for Alex.

RIP Rumble

 

[Question]

both have 1 ko power
but again 1 has weak wrestling
the other one has really good wrestling if he wants to implement it

I think Rumble would of, his fight IQ could be iffy sometimes but I don't think he would of played it stupid with Alex
One or two takedown attempts would make Pereira hesitant on the feet, we've seen it before when he fought Silva, Izzy and Jan

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Rumble would beat him in any martial arts contest. Poatan has sensitive chin. has inferior technique, no wrestling to speak of. Maybe Poatan would win if they had a BJJ match but who cares

 

[Ludwig von Mises]

This thread is a prime example of how dumb, delusional and how out of touch with reality the modern day U FIGHT CHEAP / Poatan fanboy is. Pathetic shameless fanboys lol.

Prime Rumble would have pushed Poatans shit in. Rumble fought in the greatest era of LHW ever. Poatan fights in the shittiest era of LHW ever.

Poatan arguably lost to old ass 41 year old Jan. Rumble beat much better and more well rounded fighters than Poatan did. Poatans best wins are Jiri and Izzy.

Rumble annihilated Gus. The only guy who scored takedowns on both Jones and DC. The guy who sent Prime juiced up Jones to the hospital.

Gus was guy who gave peak DC his most difficult fight ever. A guy who beat younger better Jan twice while Poatan struggled and never event hurt 41 year old Jan. Rumble fucking annihilated Gus and yes prime Gus would have pushed Poatans shit in too.

Rumble also annihilated prime Glover in like 30 seconds and yes, that version of Glover would have also pushed Poatans shit in.

Rumble beat prime Phil Davis and Ryan Bader with absolute ease- two guys who would take Poatan down with ease and not let him up. Poatan was getting grappled up by Izzy lol.

Rumble was high level wrestler with an iron chin and he was never knocked down or even hurt by punches in the UFC in almost 20 fights, let alone never knocked out. He could hurt Poatan standing or take him down at will. You honestly think 41 year old Jan is better than prime Rumble? Lol.

Rumble also beat the shit out of Arlovski who after losing to Rumble went on a 6 fight win streak in the UFC, mounting wins over Schaub, Browne, Mir and Bigfoot. This earned him a title cotender eliminator fight against Stipe.

Arlovski was 6'4 240lbs he was still young around that time and he hit a lot harder than anyone Poatan beat. Even Jon Jones would complain about how much it sucked to spar Andrei at Jackson's.

Also lol @ the clowns bringing up Rumbles early fights at 170 and 185 where he'd cut 50lbs and lose later in the fight because he was gassed.

First of all we are taking about a fight at LHW where Rumble went hard for 3 rounds with no issues at all against Phil Davis while stuffing takedown after takedown. Should we bring up Alex's fights at lower weight classes in Glory where he was getting sparked by LW Artyr Kyshenko?

I actually love Poatan as a fighter. I hespect of heem. He's a lot of fun but his fanboys are shameless and disgraceful chumps who think he'd beat anyone ever lol even though there's footage of him struggling against 41 year old journeyman Jan Blachowicz and getting grappled up by Izzy lol

You clowns need help. Absolute delusion and denial of reality. Rumble would knock Poatans head into orbit more times than not.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Bro Rumble destroyed a prime Gus and Glover(one of Pereira's coaches)
We also just saw Pereira drop two rounds to Rountree, who was on paper suppose to be an easy stylistic matchup for Pereira and shouldn't of been anywhere close to a title fight. I mean Roundtree almost(many argue should of) lost a decision to Jacoby not long ago

I think Rumble is an extremely hard fight for Pereira and would mix it up well against him

Glover is no striker, so it's a ridiculous comparison.

Gus was absolutely terrified of Rumble — Poatan has no fear — so it's another ridiculous comparison.

Apples and oranges, my friend.