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Man, fuck you. This hard question. I've become frustrated just thinking about this.
Accomplishment wise, I’d put Khabib toward the bottom but I think he was the best of that lot. I can’t justify putting him higher as is. I’m probably all over the place with my picks because i’m using a combo of “eye test” and what they actually accomplished. All great fighters.
Mighty Mouse
Volk
Aldo
DC
Khabib
Izzy
Hmm, I suppose it’s possible that Maryuma fight was at LW. That wasn’t my recollection, but we are talking about a random Pancrase fight from like, 20 years ago lol. If that were true. Aldo’s FW win streak would be 24, while Volk’s is around 15 or so. It’s not close.You’re wrong again. Aldo’s 10th fight against Maryama was at LW and we don’t at what weight most of his early fights were. I counted only 15 fights that were verified to be at FW.
Who you beat is the most important thing and denying it makes you look stupid. That’s why only UFC titles matter and not any other organisations.
Imagine a fighter A a LHW fighting around 2015 and beating Jones and defending like 3 times against DC, Gus and Rumble. And then compare him to fighter B getting the LHW title beating Jan and then defending 5 times against Glover, Smith, Reyes, Hill and Walker. By your logic fighter B should be the GOAT because he has more defences, more title wins and longer time at the top. But that simply ain’t true and deep down you know it.
And stop acting like Aldo was some old washed up fighter when he lost the title. He was still very much at his prime. Your logic is as simplistic as “lost a fight= not prime anymore”. Aldo was at his peak years and still performed the same when Conor, Max and Volk beat him. During that time Aldo beat Frankie, Stephens and Moicano in spectacular fashion and those are actually some of the best wins on his FW resume. Definitely better wins than Cub, Hominick and Gamburyan. And to push your dumb “out of prime” narrative you must assume that everyone that Aldo ever beat fell out of prime the same day, because all of them lost to the next generation of fighters like Conor, Max, Volk and Ortega.
Aldo. Mm. DC Izzy volk KhabibHow would you rank these fighters in order - Jose Aldo, Khabib, Izzy, DC, Mighty Mouse, Alexander Volkanovski?
In terms of how great they are and based off their accomplishments etc
Stephens was ranked #5 and on a 3 fight win streak. If he would’ve beaten Aldo, he would’ve fought for the belt.Hmm, I suppose it’s possible that Maryuma fight was at LW. That wasn’t my recollection, but we are talking about a random Pancrase fight from like, 20 years ago lol. If that were true. Aldo’s FW win streak would be 24, while Volk’s is around 15 or so. It’s not close.
I didn’t say that who a fighter beats isn’t important, lmao. That would be silly. I said that looking at common opponents between two fighters is not a valid ranking criteria.
I also didn’t say that Aldo magically fell out of prime the day he lost the belt. What I am saying is that he debuted in 2004, and was champ from 2009-2015, moved weight classes in late 2019 and retired in 2022– so we have a pretty good gauge on when his prime and peak were, and shouldn’t weigh fights in the last few years of his career all that heavily.
Moicano and Stephens are not championship-caliber fighters. Good fighters and fine wins, yes. Just because Aldo was past his best doesn’t mean he still can’t get wins, even against good fighters.
Regardless, this is all the same song and dance you always do. You desperately want to give fighters you are more familiar with a ranking and status that they simply haven’t earned.
EDIT: oh, and fucking lol @ “only UFC titles count!”
You’ve become a parody and a troll.
Oliveira? Khabib doesn't get credit for Islam's wins.Very disingenuous statement… How’s his resume the weakest when he fought in the most stacked division?
MM was fighting gifts like Tim Elliot, Chris Cariosso, Ray Borg, Wilson Reis, etc in title fights… an absolute joke. Then he goes and gets knocked out cold in the minor leagues.
Conor, Dustin, Gaethje, Oliveira, RDA, Barboza all in their prime are far better wins than most the guys you just named.
You also have to detract the guys you just named all getting beat up in their respective divisions. It’s not close.
the correct answer.Aldo
MM
DC
Izzy/Volk (I can't decide, I'm an Izzy hater and an Aussie so obviously I want to put volk ahead but so much of his career was against Max Holloway, and Izzy had a great MW career fighting different people.)
Khabib
the correct answer.