How Would Bader Fare Against UFC Heavyweights?

bartleby929 said:
there is not a chance in hell bader could survive the ufc, even the thin lhw division. he has no chin.
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He was undefeated in that division wasn't he? I remember watching him vs Jones when they were both undefeated at the time. Bader is a good fighter, Jones is on another level.
 
Substance Abuse said:
Yes. I really think that fight was an outlier for Gane. Bader isn't as fast, big or has the reach that Francis has. He might have some success early but I think Gane comfortably beats him and Bader is incredibly chinny and likes to chase and telegraph his movements.

I'm not saying it's a given but one fight doesn't erase everything we've seen from Gane, especially with all the pre-fight drama and nonsense.
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Gane is still young too as far as experience, it'll be interesting to see how he improves after this loss. If any division would benefit from cross promotion I think it would be HW
 
Thepaintbucket said:
He would be in the top 10 without question.
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I mean even Arlovski is Top 10, right? Won 4 of his last 5....even though he had a 5-loss streak a few years ago. HW is super old and super thin everywhere, but Bader wouldn't make any real waves in the UFC.
 
Willy Knuckles said:
Gane is still young too as far as experience, it'll be interesting to see how he improves after this loss. If any division would benefit from cross promotion I think it would be HW
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Heavyweight is a barren wasteland. I could not agree more. Gane is young in his career. That loss to Francis was not a good look, but I think he'll improve exponentially. Look at what he's done in three years. Give him another year or two and who knows where he'll be.
 
Bader just barely edged a decision he should have lost to Moldavsky. No way he would beat Ngannou, Gane, Stipe, Black Beast or Tuviasa.
 
Substance Abuse said:
Heavyweight is a barren wasteland. I could not agree more. Gane is young in his career. That loss to Francis was not a good look, but I think he'll improve exponentially. Look at what he's done in three years. Give him another year or two and who knows where he'll be.
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I honestly think if he and Francis fought tomorrow he would win, just an adjustment in gameplan would put him over Francis imo.
 
deadshot138 said:


Lmao forgot about this.

“I want the easiest fight in the division. I want Ryan Bader.”
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DC clowned him in the verbal exchange and had the fight actually happened, would have clowned him there as well.
 
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Orochimaru 大蛇丸 said:
I honestly think if he and Francis fought tomorrow he would win, just an adjustment in gameplan would put him over Francis imo.
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Francis is better than he'll ever get credit for. I've never seen a knockout artist diversify his skill set that quickly and beat his supposed rival by means unseen pre-fight and on a blown out knee no less get this amount of shit.

If Gane grapple fucked Francis, everyone would be fellating him verbally. He failed, so he now sucks. MMA fans are a fickle bunch.
 
fedorthegoat777 said:
He was undefeated in that division wasn't he? I remember watching him vs Jones when they were both undefeated at the time. Bader is a good fighter, Jones is on another level.
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Rumble, Glover, Machida, and Tito all beat him.
 
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Substance Abuse said:
Francis is better than he'll ever get credit for. I've never seen a knockout artist diversify his skill set that quickly and beat his supposed rival by means unseen pre-fight and on a blown out knee no less get this amount of shit.

If Gane grapple fucked Francis, everyone would be fellating him verbally. He failed, so he now sucks. MMA fans are a fickle bunch.
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Are we sure the heel hook isn’t what destroyed Francis’ knee?
 
Substance Abuse said:
Francis is better than he'll ever get credit for. I've never seen a knockout artist diversify his skill set that quickly and beat his supposed rival by means unseen and on a blown out knee no less get this amount of shit.

If Gane grapple fucked Francis, everyone would be fellating him verbally. He failed, so he now sucks. MMA fans are a fickle bunch.
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I 100% agree, but I think the wrestling, and grappling caught Gane off guard. If Gane knew Francis was gonna do that ahead of time like he would in a rematch, I think it would likely look a lot different.

That being said, who knows what it looks like with Francis's knee healed, I think Francis would've been much more dangerous on the feet with a 100% knee. I hope they fight again in a year or two.
 
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