How to get women.

[Real_Magi]

I also don't like negging, because it's negative. But it's effective.

I think it's better to be above a woman in a positive way like earning more money or being more intelligent or having a higher social status.

Fair enough. I'm not saying you're wrong -- it just isn't my thing.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

EDIT: I'd also like to elaborate a little further and ask you guys how you want your daughters to view themselves? If your wife is constantly belittled by you and your daughter witnesses that, she's going to think that's normal. Then, when she's dating, she's going to seek out someone who will treat her the way you treat your wife. Wouldn't you rather your daughter is treated like a queen rather than a subject? The girl you're dating is someone's daughter.

I know I'm coming off as a bit contradictory here, but honestly, I don't treat women bad, I just know what I want and go after it. Sex is perfectly natural and an excellent part of life. There's nothing wrong with maximizing your chances of getting laid, especially since it's enjoyable for both parties involved, and especially since you can do it without being dishonest or degrading. I much prefer a chick to feel good about the fact that she just came all over my midsection than feeling ashamed for her moment of weakness.

Negging is only belittling if you're socially retarded or an asshole. It's proper function is to foster approval-seeking, or in softer terms, make her care about your opinion. It sounds shocking in such explicit terms but people in meaningful interactions do it to each other all the time.

Negging is used to answer the "why should I care what you think" problem. And the answer is because I like you - in fact I like you enough that I've come all the way over here - but I'm not so shell-shocked that I'm going to treat you like God's gift to man. I'm aware that you have faults just like someone close to you would be. It's important to invoke this feeling of closeness as soon as possible, the speed with which you can make this happen is what can make you a mind-blower that things "just happen" with. It's also a lot of fun and gives you a great buzz when you've done it well.

I think in those terms you'll find you've used something like this more than a few times.

There are certainly guys who employ negative emotions in their approach, but I've never liked that and remain skeptical that it works on women who aren't already broken inside.

 

[LEGS MAHONEY]

I dunno about this op

i dont think goonerview has thrown in his two cents to confirm if this works. Ill wait till then.:icon_chee

 

[ThinkGreen]

I just get them drunk - works every time.

 

[Appylion]

Step one - Rear naked
Step two

 

[Real_Magi]

Negging is only belittling if you're socially retarded or an asshole. It's proper function is to foster approval-seeking, or in softer terms, make her care about your opinion. It sounds shocking in such explicit terms but people in meaningful interactions do it to each other all the time.

Negging is used to answer the "why should I care what you think" problem. And the answer is because I like you - in fact I like you enough that I've come all the way over here - but I'm not so shell-shocked that I'm going to treat you like God's gift to man. I'm aware that you have faults just like someone close to you would be. It's important to invoke this feeling of closeness as soon as possible, it's fun and gives you a great buzz when you've done it well.

I think in those terms you'll find you've used something like this more than a few times.

Ah ok, I guess I just misunderstood what you guys meant when you said, "negging". So basically, simply being confident in yourself and not caring about the opinions of others (which is very important in all aspects of life imo) could be seen as a way of negging.

Yeah I was thinking more along the lines of being derogatory before. In that light, negging and complimenting should actually work hand in hand to create interest.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Ah ok, I guess I just misunderstood what you guys meant when you said, "negging". So basically, simply being confident in yourself and not caring about the opinions of others (which is very important in all aspects of life imo) could be seen as a way of negging.

Yeah I was thinking more along the lines of being derogatory before. In that light, negging and complimenting should actually work hand in hand to create interest.

That's closer, yea. There is a "negative" component, but it's more often like a tease. Something like saying she's amazing but you're just so similar that it would never work out. Gets a laugh and a second-guess, which is all you need. No hurt feelings.

 

[Real_Magi]

That's closer, yea. There is a "negative" component, but it's more often like a tease. Something like saying she's amazing but you're just so similar that it would never work out. Gets a laugh and a second-guess, which is all you need. No hurt feelings.

Or something like this: she bends over and hits you with her ass, so you say something like, "Careful with that thing." as you move away, rather than just burying your face in it.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Or something like this: she bends over and hits you with her ass, so you say something like, "Careful with that thing." as you move away, rather than just burying your face in it.

Exactly. That even made me laugh.

Wait.. are you negging me bro?

 

[Real_Magi]

Exactly. That even made me laugh.

Wait.. are you negging me bro?

Lol! Right on, I see what you mean man.

EDIT: Aw shit, just hit black belt.

 

[Gregolian]

Fair assumption. I'm not tall, 5'11", and I'm not exactly super jacked, but I'm lean and muscular. 180 lbs and about 10% bf. Should be at 8% in a couple weeks or so.

The thing about it though, I know guys that aren't good looking and pull amazing tail, and I really feel like the biggest thing is just being confident. Exuding sexual interest helps too. Perhaps looks make a huge difference, or perhaps they make a small difference, and it's simply the confidence of the guy that thinks the opposite sex is attracted to him (the "hot" guy) that actually makes the huge difference.

Looks make far more of a difference I think than you realize.

 

[oddballposter]

My best advice to the guys struggling with getting chicks is to work out, get a good job and buy a big truck. (Chicks care about what you drive)

 

[Jon Stark]

Looks make far more of a difference I think than you realize.

Aslong as you are above a 5 out of 10 and brimming with confidence, you have a shot with many women.

Trolls be trolls.

 

[armbarforhire]

Aslong as you are above a 5 out of 10 and brimming with confidence, you have a shot with many women.

Trolls be trolls.

If you exceed in one area (looks, confidence, social skills, interisting job/hobby, money) you have a shoot with many women, problem is the average man is usually average at all.

So looks do make a big difference (just because other things do doesnt change that) and confidence alone is not going to beat a guy (or impress a girl) that has all the stats maxed out.

 

[zackryder]

I think negging is effective, because that puts the man above the woman. And women want men who are above them.

For the the same reason women don't like men who put them on a pedestale. Because then the man is below them. And they don't like men who are below them.

I think this is because in primitive times, women needed strong men that were taking care of them. So men that were above them. That's why women like rich men, because they can take care of them and are above them.

ur absolutely rite. my friend and i related this to poker and chips. if u wanna buy in @ the 10s table u gotta have alot of chips (worth)

chips can be anything productive in ur life including but not exclusive to:
-money
-confidence
-good looks
-fitness
-charm
-interests/hobbies (some interests/hobbies r more interesting than others)
-occupation/education

u know evolutionarily, women want men who have more self worth and r better able to take care of their babies while men want younger good looking women to increase chances of having those babies

So if a woman is a doctor or has a high paying/high status job, she still wants a man who is above her? That's the problem with feminism and socially engineering society to put women in high-status occupations, it messes with the ecosystem of dating and reproduction.

women should just go back to the kitchen

Spoiler

jk

meeting a high educated career based women can have its advantages/perks & may even be easier to get in some cases than less educated women

for one thing, she could be so absorbed into her occupation that she hardly has time to date other men & u approaching may spark interest and uniqueness. it shows u have confidence (balls) & ur not intimated by her career path even tho she may very well be smarter/harder working than u (unless of course ur a Dr/businessman urself)

if she does make more money than u, then u have some extra income coming in. a lot of men feel emasculated and intimidated if a women makes more money, holding to traditional view that men should/must be the breadwinners of the house. but contradictorily, if ur confident in who u r & ur alpha, it doesnt matter wat others think of u (lions dont concern themselves with the opinion of sheep)

however, one of the drawbacks is that its harder to fake intelligence with her but this a great opportunity to talk about ur real interests, hobbies, & productive lifestyle. if she finds u interesting/charming, ur increasing ur chances to mate

 

[Gregolian]

Aslong as you are above a 5 out of 10 and brimming with confidence, you have a shot with many women.

Trolls be trolls.

Yeah.. "confidence".

 

[smooth assassin]

Well, I strongly believe you can train yourself to be outgoing. Have you guys ever befriended someone that didn't fit in with your group of friends, then watch them behave exactly like the rest of you in time? If you're willing to go out there and get shot down, you can get use to the situation and get better at it.

When I was in high school my friends and I would play a game where the person with the most points would pick a girl for someone else to approach, and that was based on who's turn it was. If that dude got a number, he gets points equal to the number (1-10) that the rest of the group scored the girl. The guy in the lead couldn't approach any women until someone else passed him up.

I watched a couple of my friends turn into lady killers simply from doing that for a summer.

In a small town there usually isn't alot to do and we were pretty immature. Shit was super fun though. I'd still do it if I had single friends.

I think thats a hell of a way to work on your approach, making it a game and fun.
I never had friends that were cool like that though, they were pretty much every man for themselves, so i just broke away once were in at the bar or whatever and approach whoever caught my eye

 

[smooth assassin]

Thanks.

i read your story of your marraige, in a differant thread, you seem like a class guy and wish you well

edit, my post was meant for Mike90, but quoted the wrong post, lol i know it looks silly that i would quote "thanks"

 

[YoungBoyd]

 

[Real_Magi]

I think thats a hell of a way to work on your approach, making it a game and fun.
I never had friends that were cool like that though, they were pretty much every man for themselves, so i just broke away once were in at the bar or whatever and approach whoever caught my eye

It was one of the funnest things ever, especially since you could pick anyone you wanted. The leader would sometimes pick a super ugly chick and the funny thing is that the ugly girls would shoot us down almost every time. I think it's because they could tell it was just a joke and we were asshole teenagers.

Oh the mean shit we do as kids.