How special was Mirko Cro Cop?

[Dickie Greenleaf]

Mirko is a cheater and has been exposed as not even gatekeeper level in the UFC.

These are the facts, i know it hurts your fanboy soul, but you'll have to deal with it

Mirko isn't even in my top 10 fighters ever. What's a fact is that you're a clown who gets off on trying rile up strangers on the internet. Common behavior among underachieving children.

 

[Dickie Greenleaf]

CropCop was a beefed up LHW. He had no business fighting at HW.

Most HWs are beefed up LHWs.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Fuck this might be post of the year ... No gunna lie

Somebody note this down...

 

[orca]

Who cares? if they were around now,they would adjust and fight differently,and do just fine.

they would get abused by well rounded fighters that has the threats of takedowns
i believe fighters in the ufc are stll using peds
but not in a degree of abusing it like on pride
theres drug testing if u take more then u get positive
pride was an org that alot of fighters where in a disadvantage position
imagine your a poor masked man who cant afford peds
the ones that can afford more juice actually has advantages

look at fedor in a drug testing org like strikefore
he was ok but when theres drug testing he look average not the goat material the myth
they where talking about
his fans gave excuses he was ount in his prime like 32 yrs old lmao
its quite obvious

 

[HHJ]

they would get abused by well rounded fighters that has the threats of takedowns
i believe fighters in the ufc are stll using peds
but not in a degree of abusing it like on pride
theres drug testing if u take more then u get positive
pride was an org that alot of fighters where in a disadvantage position
imagine your a poor masked man who cant afford peds
the ones that can afford more juice actually has advantages

look at fedor in a drug testing org like strikefore
he was ok but when theres drug testing he look average not the goat material the myth
they where talking about
his fans gave excuses he was ount in his prime like 32 yrs old lmao
its quite obvious

tl/dr

 

[kingofthecans]

At the height of the Crocopalypse he was perfect. 10 Grimlock smashes out of 10.

 

[Vicbox]

He was a old fashioned guy, very allegorical.
For all his flaws, he was sharp in his day. But in his late days ? Circle of life in the fighting game is only that, cirlce jerk of life... where is the dignity ?
I stopped at a light yesterday and I see this nanny, black girl, pushing a baby carriage. Coming the other way is another one with this old lady in a wheelchair, stairing off into space.

Gonzaga took his soul, maybe... but Mirko was never a great MMA fighter IMO. Fedor vs Mirko was like the Mayweather-Pacquiao of its day though, I remember, no fight was bigger in that era, at least it is how I remember. UFC was kinda meh, Mirko was a BIG STAR in PRIDE so I may recoil what I said earlier... yeah, he was a GREAT MMA fighter after all.

 

[benebox]

Not only that, he landed it against multiple great fighters.

 

[Here's Johnny!]

I know people disagree but pride was basically WWE. So I look at all of it as a nothing burger

 

[HHJ]

He was a old fashioned guy, very allegorical.
For all his flaws, he was sharp in his day. But in his late days ? Circle of life in the fighting game is only that, cirlce jerk of life... where is the dignity ?
I stopped at a light yesterday and I see this nanny, black girl, pushing a baby carriage. Coming the other way is another one with this old lady in a wheelchair, stairing off into space.

Gonzaga took his soul, maybe... but Mirko was never a great MMA fighter IMO. Fedor vs Mirko was like the Mayweather-Pacquiao of its day though, I remember, no fight was bigger in that era, at least it is how I remember. UFC was kinda meh, Mirko was a BIG STAR in PRIDE so I may recoil what I said earlier... yeah, he was a GREAT MMA fighter after all.

Drunken Meat Fist stop hiding !

 

[HHJ]

If you’re a Minotauro fan you should actually watch his fight with Cro Cop instead of just looking at the result on fight finder.

I agree he wasnt second. Nogueira beat way better guys than Mirko did and didnt lose to no one but Fedor for a long time,until running into Barnett in '06

But Mirko was awesome,super dangerous,and busted Nog up pretty bad. His misfortune to be in same era as those two.

 

[HHJ]

At the height of the Crocopalypse he was perfect. 10 Grimlock smashes out of 10.

Before Brockober there was Crocoptober

 

[Dickie Greenleaf]

Before Brockober there was Crocoptober

Coptober

 

[HHJ]

Coptober

CROCOPTOBER

Not REGULARASSCOPTOBER

 

[SenorFranko]

Nice thread TS. Beautiful gifs in the OP.

 

[cheesus]

Definitely special. Special as a fighter, special as a citizen.

 

[DayV]

Being a Fedor and Minotauro fan, I never rated crocop in that league. Obviously a gifted fighter, but never the best or even second.

I agree he wasnt second. Nogueira beat way better guys than Mirko did and didnt lose to no one but Fedor for a long time,until running into Barnett in '06

But Mirko was awesome,super dangerous,and busted Nog up pretty bad. His misfortune to be in same era as those two.

Nogueira's stocks were low in autumn of 2003. He had 2 bad performances in the row against Fedor and Ricco, and everybody talked about how he robbed Ricco and many viewed that as 2 losses in the row where Monitauro was not able to do anything to Fedor and Rodriguez with his BJJ that did not work against them.
Thats why Cro Cop was #2 above Nogueira on most of rankings in autumn of 2003, different rankings (MMA Weekly, Sherdog, MMA Collective-MMA Ranks) with different voting polls including fighters and broadcaters, magazine staff, fans, voted Cro Cop who was on big streak above Nogueira in the fall of 2003.
In 2005 Nogueira had no meaningfull fights, which was strange for the time & era when fighters fought 5-6 times per year, so MMA weekly ranked Cro Cop who was on a streak above Nogueira in 2005 before Fedor fight.
In 2006 after Grand Prix Mirko was ranked above Nogueira on every ranking that existed.

In General 2003 - 2007, Cro Cop matched every Nogueira's good win with 2 of his own, so he in a way "scored more points than Nogueira."
Nogueira beat: Cro Cop, Kharitonov, Herring, Werdum, Barnett, Ricco (was highly doubted and debated)
In the sam time Cro Cop beat: Herring, Vovchanchyn, Waterman, Alex Emelianeko, Barnett, Randleman, Coleman, Magomedov, Barnett, Yoshida, Wanderlei, Barnett.

The true determination of Cro Cop's career was supposed to be rematch with Fedor in 2007 that Mirko could not get due to demise of Pride and outside circumstances. Other greats in last 20 years almost all got their chance when they had a right to a title shot.
Cro Cop could have done better and smarter performance in the rematch, he was too tired in 2005, hawing had 14 fights between August of 2003 and August of 2005, and his foot injury started by kicking Magomedov to the ribs and caused him problems at least as much as Fedor's thumb.

 

[HHJ]

Nogueira's stocks were low in autumn of 2003. He had 2 bad performances in the row against Fedor and Ricco, and everybody talked about how he robbed Ricco and many viewed that as 2 losses in the row where Monitauro was not able to do anything to Fedor and Rodriguez with his BJJ that did not work against them.
Thats why Cro Cop was #2 above Nogueira on most of rankings in autumn of 2003, different rankings (MMA Weekly, Sherdog, MMA Collective-MMA Ranks) with different voting polls including fighters and broadcaters, magazine staff, fans, voted Cro Cop who was on big streak above Nogueira in the fall of 2003.
In 2005 Nogueira had no meaningfull fights, which was strange for the time & era when fighters fought 5-6 times per year, so MMA weekly ranked Cro Cop who was on a streak above Nogueira in 2005 before Fedor fight.
In 2006 after Grand Prix Mirko was ranked above Nogueira on every ranking that existed.

In General 2003 - 2007, Cro Cop every Nogueira's good win with 2 of his own, so he in a way "scored more points than Nogueira."
Nogueira beat: Cro Cop, Kharitonov, Herring, Kharitonov, Werdum, Barnett, Ricco (was highly doubted and debated)
In the sam time Cro Cop beat: Herring, Vovchanchyn, Waterman, Alex Emelianeko, Barnett, Randleman, Coleman, Magomedov, Barnett, Yoshida, Wanderlei, Barnett.

The true determination of Cro Cop's career was supposed to be rematch with Fedor in 2007 that Mirko could not get due to demise of Pride and outside circumstances. Other greats in last 20 years almost all got their chance when they had a right to a title shot.
Cro Cop could have done better and smarter performance in the rematch, he was too tired in 2005, hawing had 14 fights between August of 2003 and August of 2005, and his foot injury started by kicking Magomedov to the ribs and caused him problems at least as much as Fedor's thumb.

I mean,if you want to say Mirko was above nog for a month or two,thats fine. Its a good post,you know your shit. I just always thought he should have tried to fight Nog again,but I think PRIDE was scared to do that one

 

[Koro_11]

I mean,if you want to say Mirko was above nog for a month or two,thats fine. Its a good post,you know your shit. I just always thought he should have tried to fight Nog again,but I think PRIDE was scared to do that one

Nog probably wasn’t jumping at the opportunity either, he got treated like a piñata until finally getting a takedown and submission off a newb grappler mistakes.

 

[HHJ]

Nog probably wasn’t jumping at the opportunity either, he got treated like a piñata until finally getting a takedown and submission off a newb grappler mistakes.

Yeah but thats not his problem,he already beat him. He didnt have nothin to prove.
If Pride wanted it bad enough theyd empty their pockets,and hed do it.