How SJWs Ruined Star Wars!

[Rav1nHunter]

What are you talking about man they destroyed the entire expanded universe.
And many Fantastic books are now nonCanon. For many of the reasons described in this video.

Great works like Darth Plagueis the thrawn trilogy or the Darth Bane trilogy of novels got completely thrown to the Wayside.
Not to mention the Old Republic stuff..

Answer me this how would they have been able to tie together all expanded universe novels with a totally new film?

 

[Bob Gray]

It had to be an hour long because there is so much wrong with that movie. I wasn't expecting to watch it all, but I had before I'd noticed it was that long. The guy comes across as a know it prick though.

Way too many stupid moments and convenient moments that are put in just to make it fit the template of A New Hope.

Points I can remember from the vid:

- The old man was hiding with the map on Jakku , so how did Poe find him? How did Kylo find him? Why did Kylo kill him? Why not mind probe him?

- Why didn't Poe run away after he gave BB8 time to get out of there?

- Poe kills Finn's friend, yet Finn decides he should help Poe. Why? If somebody kills my friend, I might take umbrage.

- Why does Rey save BB8 from a scavenger and then tell it to go to the town filled with other scavengers?

- Finn can't bring himself to kill anyone, but not long after, he's gunning down people (fellow Storm Troopers and defenseless people in a control tower) from his ship.

- Poe drags Finn to Jakku, but then leaves Finn and BB8. Later gets lucky because Finn complete the mission, despite showing no sign of siding or sympathizing with the resistance before.

- How does nobody know where this missing patch is from the map? They supposedly had the rest of it, but were missing the last piece. Why not send out some probe droids (like they did earlier in the movie) to find it in the area that was missing?

- Why did nobody think to check R2's hard drive? Just to double check.....

- How did Rey know what a Jedi mind trick was when on the ship?

There are loads more.

-Why did the Empire completely ignore the escape pod ejected in the beginning of A New Hope? "There are no life forms"?!!!! Holy shit, there are LITERALLY DROIDS EVERYWHERE and you are looking for "plans".

-Luke is supposed to be hidden from Vader, but they literally KEEP HIS FUCKING LAST NAME.

-Princess Leia sees a her entire goddamn planet explode and practically just goes "Oh, no!"

-How can Vader not know Luke is his son if he can sense his force...and then how does he even figure it out between ANH and Empire?

-Han is a selfish scoundrel....but he comes back JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME to help everybody because screenplay.

-Why does the Empire even bother to frame the sand people for killing the Jawas on Tattoine? The empire gives zero fucks and is blowing up planets. What are the afraid of exactly? The tattooine Police department?

- The entire ticking clock at the end of ANH is that the Death Star needs to blow up Yavin IV....but they have to move into position....because a moon is in their way. Yes. A MOON is in the way of the station that can blow up planets. WHAT IN THE EVERLOVING FUCK?




In case the point is lost, Im as big of a Star Wars nerd as anybody. But nitpicking over the plot holes in a space saga that involves laser swords, space warlocks and slug people is kind of silly. But more importantly, if people want to complain about plot holes, they can just as easily complain about the first trilogy.

To this day, it amazes me how sensitive people are about the fact that a force wielding girl won a fight with a dude that was handicapped by a hole in his gut.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

I was a fan of the old Star Wars EU as well but like other posters have said there was no way to make a new movie and tie in all the EU lore.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

"social justice warriors" ruined star wars

jesus christ.

Brainwashed little pyschos all over the internet these days

 

[Spoken]

in ability to offer substantial defenses to the thesis is a problem. The diversity of Star Wars has been engrained since the beginning. Highlighting it to create more fans and have healthy press isn't an issue. Rey could have just as easily been a man, which is why she's compelling. Her particularity as a woman is rarely seen in the film. Her lack of character arch is only a minimal problem because the writers see her story as so meta. The more you realize she's force sensitive, the more you realize how essential she'll become. In the first film she is a random variable thrown into the story of finding Luke (or is it destiny?!).
Her character will be teased out in the next film. I'm certain of it.

SJWs arent ruining star wars, just the marketing and talking points. I think the last two films have been fantastic expansions of the Star Wars myth. They resonate as primally as the first 3 films.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

That's the issue today what's too many people you won't even listen to the other side of the argument.
Especially when it challengs your ideology.
Instead of watching the video explaining why you think the guy is incorrect in their assessment of the situation.

You automatically become defensive like a kid trying to lie their way out of getting caught with there hand in the cookie jar.

There is no ideology here for you guys to rally against. Putting a black guy in Star Wars is not an ideology. It's just casting a black guy.

 

[Merlotte's]

If an SJW is capable of ruining anything other than a clean tampon whatever got ruined wasn't worth a damn to begin with.

 

[groo]

Get with the times. It’s 2017. Being a nerd is cool. Look a thing comic con. Buncha famous people go there just for fun. What was once considered nerdy is now normal for everybody. Super hero’s, space shit, etc. Star Wars isn’t bad. Keep talking shit and I’ll have to force lightning your ass, playa.

He wasn't attacking comics or sci-fi. He was simply stating the obvious truth : star wars does indeed suck dick.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

There is no ideology here for you guys to rally against. Putting a black guy in Star Wars is not an ideology. It's just casting a black guy.

The problem potentially is though "casting a black guy" becomes a guard against "hang on this guys character is one step removed from Rob Schneider in Judge Dredd isn't he?"

I do rather agree with the video as well that Hollywood increasingly seems to be inventing this revisionist history where by its current "inclusivity" is something new and unique exactly because its using it to sell films when as the video noted its actually something that goes back decades. The inclusivity hype tends to be strongest when the quality of the films themselves are more questionable, Ghostbusters being the classic example for me.

That's not coming from someone who dislikes female leads in blockbusters, I mean beyond finding them physically attractive there has I think been a tendency down the years to cast woman when you want a story with more dramatic bite to it because audiences will accept a wider emotional range from them more easily. It matters less in films focused entirely on drama maybe aimed at more niche audiences but blockbusters tend to work much more in emotional shorthand to mainstream audiences. Look at say Sarah Conor breaking down when trying to assassinate Miles Tyson in T2 for example or as in SW more recently Jyn Erso's big dramatic climax's in Rogue One.

 

[I Am Legion]

in ability to offer substantial defenses to the thesis is a problem. The diversity of Star Wars has been engrained since the beginning. Highlighting it to create more fans and have healthy press isn't an issue. Rey could have just as easily been a man, which is why she's compelling. Her particularity as a woman is rarely seen in the film. Her lack of character arch is only a minimal problem because the writers see her story as so meta. The more you realize she's force sensitive, the more you realize how essential she'll become. In the first film she is a random variable thrown into the story of finding Luke (or is it destiny?!).
Her character will be teased out in the next film. I'm certain of it.

SJWs arent ruining star wars, just the marketing and talking points. I think the last two films have been fantastic expansions of the Star Wars myth. They resonate as primally as the first 3 films.

I’m not sure. Finn is really bad. Seems like they just chose him to check the black character box. Same as Poe did for the gay box. I see your point on Rey. But Kylo is every bit as emo as Hayden was. You can do conflicted without coming off as a bitch. Luke did it. Lando did it.

 

[Spoken]

I’m not sure. Finn is really bad. Seems like they just chose him to check the black character box. Same as Poe did for the gay box. I see your point on Rey. But Kylo is every bit as emo as Hayden was. You can do conflicted without coming off as a bitch. Luke did it. Lando did it.

I didnt have an issue with Finn. I thought his character was pretty funny, and the fact that he's backup to Rey helps situate her importance in the coming narrative.

 

[I Am Legion]

I didnt have an issue with Finn. I thought his character was pretty funny, and the fact that he's backup to Rey helps situate her importance in the coming narrative.

Maybe it’s a casting thing for me.i didn’t like his look, his constant goofiness no matter the situation. I gave Rey a pass because I know she will get fleshed out. I like her in interviews.

 

[Twelve75]

If an SJW is capable of ruining anything other than a clean tampon whatever got ruined wasn't worth a damn to begin with.

its was never perfect,but they're making murica a worse place.

 

[NHB7]

I guess one could say SJWs ruined all of Weinstein’s movies too.....good job SJWs. Point for SJWs.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

I guess one could say SJWs ruined all of Weinstein’s movies too.....good job SJWs. Point for SJWs.

Yep. How much more of this do we have to take before we rise up against Hollywood and make them stop casting black people (because we all know there's a white actor out there who could do it better), and ruining our icons by telling everyone about a little bit of rape? We need to take back our country! White guys, yeah!

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Read through this thread and it's confirmed...

Anti SJW crusaders are more annoying than SJW themselves

 

[Torrid]

What are you talking about man they destroyed the entire expanded universe.
And many Fantastic books are now nonCanon. For many of the reasons described in this video.

Great works like Darth Plagueis the thrawn trilogy or the Darth Bane trilogy of novels got completely thrown to the Wayside.
Not to mention the Old Republic stuff..

The Thrawn Trilogy is cannon, but yeah, the awesome Plagueis book is not. Still, I love the EU/Legends and was pretty bitter about all my childhood nerdom being moved to the non-cannon section (Abaloth, Jayna/Jacen, Yuuhzan Vong, Darth Krayt, etc.), but the new cannon books are actually really good and the Vader comics have really been the best addition imo.

If you're worried about the Old Republic being cannon...

Spoiler

There's a lot of leaks saying that Snoke is an ancient Sith from that period, reawakened. That Disney is going to use that connection to launch either a movie trilogy or series about the Old Republic from there

There are things I really dislike though. When they showed the process of bleeding a crystal in comics it was really neat, but I preferred the old synthetic Sith crystal explanation more. Also, though I thought Rogue One was great, I really don't like that they had Vader remove his armor and rest in a Bacta tank. In Legends, Palpatine mentions a new suit to Vader that was state of the art (instead of a punishment like the old one), but Vader declined and thought to himself that he probably couldn't remove the old suit anyway without dying because his burnt flesh had started to regrow slightly, bonding to the material. The idea that he was literally always in discomfort and never able to remove himself from it was a central theme of the character and that scene from Rogue One really impeded on that.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I’m not sure. Finn is really bad. Seems like they just chose him to check the black character box. Same as Poe did for the gay box. I see your point on Rey. But Kylo is every bit as emo as Hayden was. You can do conflicted without coming off as a bitch. Luke did it. Lando did it.

Honestly I do think whilst many of the choices around Kylo are questionable Adam Driver gives a pretty strong performance in the role, much better than either of the two leads.

 

[Nooob]

If they made Star Wars RoJ today then we would see untrained Leila resisting arrest and beating the shit out Vader in the death star.

Like untrained Rey knowing the force out of nowhere and beating Kylo who is the fucking apprentice of supreme Snoke.

 

[lapollarecords]

all those outrage clickbait videos are a waste of time.

but what is true is that the propaganda is very conspicuous. the good guys went from being mostly white men to needing to have representation of each and every ethnic group on Earth plus tons of "strong and independent" women, while all the bad guys still are upper class sounding older white men. Darth Vader and Tarkin will probably wear MAGA hats in the next film.