How much weight is cut on average? How much water weight do fighters cut?

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

I have met Ben Rothwell before and he told me he was 290 Ibs, and this was 2 days after he knocked out Schaub

He weighed in officially at 265.5 for the fight, but he said he was 290

 

[daniel san]

It’s interesting how people STILL don’t understand the difference between walking around weight and fight weight. If you compared walking around weight with fight weight, the biggest weight cutters aren’t Costa, Romero and Chiesa, it’s the likes Hendricks and Mark Munoz that get walk around FAT.

The only thing that matters is in-shape/end of camp weight vs weigh-in weight.

 

[randomg1t]

They cut just enough to make them fucking p#ssies!

Insane....
- "I'm the 145lb champ of the world!"

- "but you weigh 170lbs..."

- "uhh...I'm the 145lb champ of the world!"

- "P#ssy..."

watch out guys, we got a badass over here.

how many fights have you had, tough guy?

 

[TrueFightFan]

watch out guys, we got a badass over here.

how many fights have you had, tough guy?

Maybe 7 to 10, in my life, but it would have been zero if we had to cut weight first.

If you cut weight, it's to duck guys your size or bigger. Ipso facto, you're a pooswa...

 

[Oceanmachine]

Insane....
- "I'm the 145lb champ of the world!"

- "but you weigh 170lbs..."

- "uhh...I'm the 145lb champ of the world!"

- "P#ssy..."

Well he weighs 160lbs but yeah

 

[Oceanmachine]

I think people get confused with terms...


Weight Cutting means

how much your losing the week of the fight to make weight...

Walking around weight- Guys or Girls weights with no fight scheduled and more relaxed training/diet

Fight Camp weight and Weight loss- The weight at the start of camp and were they want to be at the end of camp in preparation for the final water weight cut during fight week which is achieved by increasing training 10 fold and super dialed in diets for the 8 week plus training camps...this is why you hear guys say things like this was the best camp ever or im.right where i should be the weight cut will be easy during fight week...its because they hit there targets the coaches set for pre weight cut numbers...


In cage weight - The weight a fighter regains after cutting, could be under the same or over pre water cut weight aka End of CAMP weight

For example ..155lbs pound fighter starts camp at 190lbs( walk around weight)...throughout camp he loses fat and slims down while building muscles coming down to 168lbs to 172lbs( fight camp weight loss pre weight cut)....this fighter will then cut 18 to 13 lbs of water ( weight cutting) to make weight come fight week...and rehydrate and eat more post weigh in to fill back the weight cut...getting to or close to or even past the pre weight cut weight this is( in cage weight) so 155lbs at the official weigh in but 24hrs later hes somewhere in the 165 lbs to 175lbs range


I hope this helps...

So a guy like Brock lesnar probably starts camp at 300lbs and finishes camp at 280 285lbs and cuts 20 lbs to make 265lbs..


Thus a 300 pound guy can fight at HW..


*personal note*
I dont believe massive weight cuts are actually effective in MMA , i think it came from singular style martial arts like wrestling/boxing and got carried over in tradition but because MMA is so physically tasking and has so many pieces to it , i think fighters , including myself( currently floating between LW and WW) would benefit from more time working on skills in the gym and less stress on there bodies going into important fights if they just cut less and spent less time having there camps be about lossing or making weight...if the only reason your relying on beating your opponent is because your bigger come fight night i believe your making a big mistake, i would never cut more then 10 pounds or have any fighter id train cut more then 10 pounds for an MMA fight and HWs shouldnt be cutting at all...235lbs to 245lbs is historically proven to be the best size to be a champion at HW ...bigger isnt always better

But the idiot I called out was saying men are cutting 35lbs of water weight, 45lbs, 50lbs and that Hunt and Lesnar are 300lbs in the cage on fight night. I think Max brock said he was 285lbs. Against Overeem he was 278lbs. The guy I called out was claiming FW cut 35lbs of water weight or more LOL

 

[Paolo Delutis]

But the idiot I called out was saying men are cutting 35lbs of water weight, 45lbs, 50lbs and that Hunt and Lesnar are 300lbs in the cage on fight night. I think Max brock said he was 285lbs. Against Overeem he was 278lbs. The guy I called out was claiming FW cut 35lbs of water weight or more LOL

Yeah this is just isnt possible...especially without IVs...

Or if done it would pretty damaging and fight affecting...

I get the confusion.. It can be complicated for people who dont train or follow the sport closely...

But no1 ...and i mean no 1 is cutting 50 pounds of water and fighting the next day....

Walk around weight i find confuses alot of people...especially on here

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

Lol why does DC gain 10.5 lbs after weigh-ins? He doesn't need to cut weight.

He wore clothes. Probably just to confuse sherdoggers for the next few decades.

 

[Maripucci]

Up to 20% of your weight is average

 

[Oceanmachine]

Up to 20% of your weight is average

No its 10 to 15% according to the California athletic commission

They started weighing fighters on fight day after rehydration

 

[Oceanmachine]

It’s interesting how people STILL don’t understand the difference between walking around weight and fight weight. If you compared walking around weight with fight weight, the biggest weight cutters aren’t Costa, Romero and Chiesa, it’s the likes Hendricks and Mark Munoz that get walk around FAT.

The only thing that matters is in-shape/end of camp weight vs weigh-in weight.

True Hendricks got up to 225lbs lol

Costa is always in shape and no more than 215lbs

But Costa is a taller, jacked guy at MW and Hendricks a 5"9,, chubby WW.


But with that said in terms of raw weight Costa is a big cutter. To go from 185lbs to 213lbs.... man that is A LOT and the largest cutter at MW.


And when weight cutting is talked about we are talking about FIGHT NIGHT weight what someones in shape weight is. Out of camp weight is meaningless and if anything hurts you the fatter you walk around at out of camp

 

[Bend NvR Break]

no featherweight cuts 35lbs, that's absurd. a heavyweight, maybe. but there aren't many HWs above the 265 limit.

a 15lbs cut is pretty standard and can be done by more or less anyone, though it is far more difficult at the lower weights. i guess the more extreme cutters at the lowest classes still do it.

what people don't realize is that after a certain point, every next pound gets exponentially more difficult to lose. cutting 20lbs isn't 30% more difficult than cutting 15lbs. it's a fucking nightmare.

not to mention 90% of sherdog thinks walk around weight is fight night weight, so when they hear khabib is 200lbs when he's out of camp, they assume he cuts 45lbs. they are retarded.

Bullshit

Both Holloway and Ortega weigh 180+ out of camp and drop to 145 for the scale.

 

[WhosTheBoss]

Would be awesome if the UFC did same day weigh ins….

 

[aus101]

15-25 pounds is the range. (This is the pre fight water/glycogen cut mind, with most fighters leaning down to 10-15 percent bf pre water cut).

15 small(ish) cut.
25 large cut.
20 average (median) cut.
10 tiny cut.
30 huge cut.

 

[aus101]

Bullshit

Both Holloway and Ortega weigh 180+ out of camp and drop to 145 for the scale.

Neither of them are even 165 10 percent bf.
If they ever get to 180 it's at circa 20 percent bf and not a relevant metric pertaining to size in fight shape (as no fighter under HW fights near that bf percentage).

 

[suffersystem]

But the idiot I called out was saying men are cutting 35lbs of water weight, 45lbs, 50lbs and that Hunt and Lesnar are 300lbs in the cage on fight night. I think Max brock said he was 285lbs. Against Overeem he was 278lbs. The guy I called out was claiming FW cut 35lbs of water weight or more LOL

So if I went and read the other thread they would be saying WATER WEIGHT CUT and not cutting weight during training camp? That is the argument you are saying correct? As they have already said that the argument was never the day before or two day water weight cut that was 30 or 50 pounds. Just curious if that is still your argument before going to read it.

 

[Oceanmachine]

So if I went and read the other thread they would be saying WATER WEIGHT CUT and not cutting weight during training camp? That is the argument you are saying correct? As they have already said that the argument was never the day before or two day water weight cut that was 30 or 50 pounds. Just curious if that is still your argument before going to read it.

Yes but I put that troll on ignore he started throwing insults and acting like a 14 year old with "lmao you idiot Hunt and Brock are 300lbs fighting!!! FWs cut 35lbs!!

My point was always about water weight cut and what is their FIGHT NIGHT WEIGHT which is also their end of camp in shape weight

Walking weight is pointless and can be fucking 20lbs heavier or 30lbs above their fighting night weight. You could become a fat ass when not fighting. But it makes your camp harder and means you have a lot of fat to lose before you get to a range that it is possible to lose maybe 30lbs of water weight if you are a larger fighter. If you are 60lbs above the weight limit and have only 2 months you arent going to make weight and if you did it is at expense of losing tons of muscle and youd have to shed minimum 30lbs before you get to a range where a 20lb or 25lb weight cut is possible (without IVs) and it will be very difficult

Even Brock (who would weigh 300lbs when fattish and out of camp) even in his prime and when the UFC allowed IVs for weight cutting, even he wouldnt attempt a 35lb water weight cut. Brock routinely dieted and lost fat until he hit the low 280s or high 270s and then maintained that weight until a day or so before weighins when he starts cutting water weight. In xage brock was anywhere from 275lbs to 285lbs. He could do a 35lb weight cut I am sure (35lbs is only 11.6% of his body weight if he is 300lbs) but it would harm his health and be very rough to do.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Neither of them are even 165 10 percent bf.
If they ever get to 180 it's at circa 20 percent bf and not a relevant metric pertaining to size in fight shape (as no fighter under HW fights near that bf percentage).

Bro when they tried to make Khabib vs Holloway, Holloway said he was over 180 pounds when he got the call and accepted the fight.

Then he couldn't make 155 in time. You think of he was 165 pounds he couldn't drop to 155 in a couple days?

Think about that for a second. Let's just say Holloway is lying about his weight. Do you think a person that weighs 165 can't make 155 with 48 hours to work with. Tony got injured on a Tuesday. By Wednesday Holloway accepted. Friday came and Holloway couldn't make weight.

Ronda on TUF lost 10 pounds in 3 hours right in front of our eyes trying to help one of her fighters cut weight.

 

[aus101]

Bro when they tried to make Khabib vs Holloway, Holloway said he was over 180 pounds when he got the call and accepted the fight.

Then he couldn't make 155 in time. You think of he was 165 pounds he couldn't drop to 155 in a couple days?

Think about that for a second. Let's just say Holloway is lying about his weight. Do you think a person that weighs 165 can't make 155 with 48 hours to work with. Tony got injured on a Tuesday. By Wednesday Holloway accepted. Friday came and Holloway couldn't make weight.

Ronda on TUF lost 10 pounds in 3 hours right in front of our eyes trying to help one of her fighters cut weight.

He wasn't in fight shape and was likely a soft 175 pounds in the morning. This was him a month before he failed his cut.



This was him a week after



He's no where near 180 in fight shape.

 

[Gummibärchen]

Bro when they tried to make Khabib vs Holloway, Holloway said he was over 180 pounds when he got the call and accepted the fight.

Then he couldn't make 155 in time. You think of he was 165 pounds he couldn't drop to 155 in a couple days?

Think about that for a second. Let's just say Holloway is lying about his weight. Do you think a person that weighs 165 can't make 155 with 48 hours to work with. Tony got injured on a Tuesday. By Wednesday Holloway accepted. Friday came and Holloway couldn't make weight.

Ronda on TUF lost 10 pounds in 3 hours right in front of our eyes trying to help one of her fighters cut weight.

Bro, have you ever been on a scale? Do you have eyes?
Holloway is super lean, thin frame, not mascular at all, and barely 6 feet. In which universe is he 180 pounds? Only way that could be true is if he gained 10+ lbs of fat out of camp. No way he is cutting from 180 lbs.

Edit: obviously agree with the post right above me